On 14 Sep 2009, at 15:44, John Denker wrote:

> Specifically, I recommend introducing dme_inrange
> and gs_inrange properties.  The concept of "dme in
> range" and "gs in range" are meaningful to real
> world pilots.

Yep, seems reasonable to me, I was already looking at the navradio DME  
patch.

> Ninety percent of this erratic behavior is realistic!
>
> The other ten percent is a small problem, explained
> by the fact that real-world GS receivers incorporate
> a rather heavy low-pass filter ... so if you fly
> through a region of rapidly-changing signals they
> mostly average out ... and navradio.cxx has not
> heretofore implemented such a filter.

What's your confidence factor on the 90:10 split? I've never flow an  
ILS approach in my life, but I find it hard to believe the real world  
behaviour is as poor (close to the transmitter) as ours is now.

> If you want to add a low-pass filter, that would
> be a Good Thing.  It is going to be needed anyway,
> if/when we try to construct a decent model of
> fringe-area behavior.

Happy to do so - I'll experiment with this and post back here. If you  
wish to experiment with it yourself, and suggest some filter  
parameters that seem appropriate, I would be most grateful - otherwise  
I'll make some guesses, and we can tune later.

> I guarantee you real-world autoland systems do not
> try to follow the GS signal all the way to the
> runway.  Among other things, they rely on a fancy
> radar altimeter to judge height during the flare.
>
> If existing aircraft have been following the GS
> signal all the way to the runway, I'd say we have
> _two_ bugs (unrealistically good GS signal, and
> unrealistic autoland implementation).

Yep, fair point. I don't think any aircraft we currently have claim an  
actual auto-land (as modelled)

Cheers,
James


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