On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 22:01 +0000, Heiko Schulz wrote:

> 
> 
> I'm sure it is easy, then the aircrafts has to be:
> 
> -under GNU GPL to fit into the Base package (So David Culp's aircrafts can't 
> be included)
> 
> -in CVS already - the Lockheed Lockheed L1049h  (the "h"-version!)is not yet 
> included into CVS!
> 
> My problem is the airliner part. The 777 hasn't been updated since Syd 
> decided to change the licence. And the AP isn't working anymore in 
> CVS-version.
> I don't see any alternatives. The 737-300 is still WIP and has only the old 
> 2d-panel working.
> The 787 hasn't been updated as well in CVS.
> The A380 hasn't been updated in CVS.
> 
> Maybe the 747-400, but this is still WIP, and not yet really functional 
> compared to the other aircrafts in the base package.
> 
> I vote for No Airliners for this release! 


To help discussion, I've tried to list all the contemporary "airliners"
and give some idea of how much functionality (for flying) is
implemented. 

Aircraft = model name (not necessarily exactly same as FG model name)
Status = 0 - basic flyable model,  1 - basic animations + some cockpit,
2 - 3D cockpit + quality fdm + AP,  3 - complete 3D cockpit + fine-tuned
autopilot and FDM + extras,  X - failed to load with git or CVS build
V2.0.0
Owner = authors name
CVS = not in CVS (none), work in progress with commits to CVS (WIP), CVS
doesn't match latest download (unsync), otherwise assumed Up-to-date in
CVS
License = assumed GPL if in CVS, otherwise download location


Aircraft    Status    Owner                        CVS        License/Download  
              Notes

737-100     1-2    BARANGER                                     
737-300     1-2    Culp, Cunningham, Schulz        WIP
737-400      2     updated 737-300 NiTuS, Bisutti  none         iEspana team    
 (apparently still WIP)
737-800      1     Culp, Cunningham               
737-900ER   2-3    xsaint, Adams                   none       UnitedFreeWorld   
 (appears to use 777 cockpit components)
747-100      1     Jim Wilson, Andy Ross
747-200      1          uncredited
747-400     2-3    Gijs de Rooy, Jentron           WIP                          
(latest CVS update has .ac errors from pilot view)
777-200ER    3     Justin Smithies, Syd Adams      unsync       personal site
787          X (3) Joshua Wilson                                                
(YASim SOLUTION FAILURE)
A319         0     Malik Guest                     none         from forums     
(fails to load sound)
A320         0     Ampere, Jonberg                              from forums     
(seems based on A320-Family)
A320-111     0     Culp, Bouvier                                                
(A320-family)
A320-131     0     Culp, Bouvier                                                
(A320-family)
A330-200     0     Djeferson, Isaias Prestes       none         personal site   
(unable to start, errors with .ac from pilot view)
A340-600     0     Liam Gathercole                 none         personal site   
(currently being developed)
A380         2     Ampere,Cunningham,Dalvi,Hamilton unsync      from fg wiki    
(WIP available outside CVS, dependant on V2.0 features)
CRJ-200     2-3    Joshua Wilson                   unsync       from forums     
(Nasal errors with V2.0.0)
dhc8-300Q    1     Alex Park                       unsync       from forums     
Fokker50    2-3    Hofman, Andrews                                              
(malformed autopilot definition with V2.0.0 Git)
Fokker70    0-1    Erik Hofman                                                  
(malformed autopilot definition with V2.0.0 Git)
Fokker100   0-1    Erik Hofman                                                  
(malformed autopilot definition with V2.0.0 Git)
Concorde     3     uncredited                                                   
(Nasal runtime error in autopilot, low frame-rate)
MRJ-90      0-1    Tatsuhiro Nishioka              none         personal site   
(WIP still??)
MD-11        0     Ampere Hardraade                                             
(malformed autopilot definition)
Tu-154b      X     Yurik V. Nikiforoff                                          
(aborted load with "No node found for gear/left-brake-cmd-norm")
tu-154      0-1    Pavlenko, Moderau, Okan, Savchenko                           
ATR42-500   0-1    Bourgeois, Kenning, Foster      none         from forums     
ATR42-600    0     Bourgeois, Kenning, Foster      none         from forums     
(doesn't load very well)


 
So the most complete are; Concorde, 777-200ER, and from memory the 787
(I couldn't load the 787 with V2.0.0, and the 777-20ER is from Syd's
site)
the next level of completeness are; 737-900ER, 747-400, CRJ-200 and
Fokker50 (the 737-900ER is from UFW, 747-400 still in development)
and then the next level of adequate functionality; 737-400, A380 (both
are in active long-term development and not committed to CVS)

Now comes the subjective part, which aircraft are nice to use, nice to
look at and popular.  My votes go to;

787     (needs updating for V2.0.0)
777-200ER  (needs updating for V2.0.0)
CRJ-200   
Fokker 50
747-400
A380
737-400

and in the interests of transparency, I am one of many co-authors of the
A380. 



S.


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