William Samson
Sat, 03 Feb 2001 09:00:16 -0800
Now here's where the Germanic influence reveals itself! In the UK (and America, too), plenty of people tackle jobs that they're not qualified to do. This seems to be unusual in Germany. Some years ago I used to build lutes (lauten) and was pretty much self-taught. I once sold a lute to a German musician, and he was pleased with it. He asked me who I had been apprenticed to. I told him I had taught myself and wasn't a member of any guild or trade organisation. He was shocked! So I suppose that the German culture must regard people who have developed competency without going through trade school as very different from those who have progressed through the 'normal' route. Hence a special word is needed to describe the competent amateur craftsman. It's not regarded as unusual in the UK, so no special word is needed for such presumptious individuals (like most of us!). ;-) Cheers, Bill -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 02 February 2001 17:24 Subject: [foldingboats] "Basteln" and other things ... >Dear fellow Amateur Folding Boat Builders. From the old country it-very-self >comes the below definitive explanation of what "basteln" / "Bastler" means. I >forward this without permission and shall rely on your good services to ward >off the wrath of the attorney who concocted it -- he did berate me something >rotten for not coming up with a better translation myself: > >[Cassels figures that "Raffia" (bot.) is a "needle bearing palm tree". "Bast" >originally refers the fiber on its inner bark, hence the below use of the >term ...] > >Let's try to have a useful explanation and also a proper English word for >Basteln. The word itself goes back to the eighteenth century, so the >dictionary says. Bast simply means raffia. > >There was a time in the fifties and early sixties, when people in Germany - >and perhaps other countries - began to buy raffia in his natural fair color >and to make things. Useless rubbish, like simple jam pots or e.g. test tubes >were wrapped around with raffia, connected together to form a vase for >flowers and plants. Beasts were made by wrapping raffia around a frame of >wire, preferred were giraffes and cats. These self-made items were given as >little gifts to the parents, the friends or bother and sister. The act of >wrapping or binding gave them all the proper name, . >Basteln means in the very sense of the word raffi-ing. Soon all kind of >privat handicraft and skilful work in the basement for private purposes, all >creation of items for the own hobby was called Basteln. The ordinary Bastler >(raffing-man) is a kind of character of his own. Often dreamers and >philosophers. > >So a good translation of the word Basteln by means of existing English does >not exist. We have to make a new one. > >My suggestion sounds as follows. > >NOn Professional Sophisticated Enthusiastic BASement Handicrafts WOrk >Philosophie > >NO P S E BAS HA WO P. > >No one would use a word like nopsebashawop, this would be simply nonsense. >But everyone would like to say nops, nopsing and nopser. That sounds like a >good, proper and useful English word. Merriam Webster does not yet claim that >word for another meaning. > >So why not use Folder-Nopsing for the self-making work with our boats and >the equipment. > >Note - the web-site faltbootbasteln.de contains nowadays only a small part of >nopsing-ideas (especially the suggestions of mine). The main subject matters >are now Folding Boats in all dimensions, shape and form , historical and >other references. Jutta and Jürgen really enjoy the world of Folders and real >Folding-Nopsers and I am proud to help them occasionally wherever I can. > >Good - Nopsing over the pond > >(from me too -- Ralph) >######################################################### >Foldingboats Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be >reproduced outside Foldingboats or Foldingboats archives without author's permission >Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subscriptions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >######################################################### ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ######################################################### Foldingboats Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside Foldingboats or Foldingboats archives without author's permission Submissions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscriptions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] #########################################################