Hello all, I figured I should clear a few things up. First, my comments were in response to the discussion of FAT32+/ExFAT. I meant to suggest some other points to work on first (and comment on why filesystem work isn't needed very much).
> seriously: is ANYBODY using Windows 3.x ? > > IMHO Windows 3.x is 100% obsolete, so why would anybody want windows > 3.x support ? IF they are, you can guarantee that they run DOS. This could mean the same sort of mess I once got in with Win98 and FreeDOS (Freedos starts, Windows doesn't-- "I HATE this ..."). It's similar if some enhanced mode software stops working. > Windows 3.0 and 3.1 are quite different. I disagree that they > would be useless without 386enh mode. I remember WIN /S still > was quite useful for me but then I do not use Win32s based > (Win9x-ish) software that would require 386enh mode... :-). > Windows 3 is probably not extremely obsolete - I remember > even that "3.0 worked, 3.1 did not" of the deliberate DR > DOS incompatibility long ago really hurt DR DOS market... >> What does UDF support do? Enable copying video DVD? > > UDF is popular for rewritable disks, writing on the fly > and large disks with large files, in the CD and DVD world. > Many DVDs and CDs still have normal ISO9660 instead, sure. So--where else will you get 4G+ files? The point is that FAT32+ and ExFAT, while _potentially_ useful, are getting ahead of what DOS can do. Once we have UDF/whatever else can use 4G files, it's time to start work. But now, it seems a misplaced priority >> I seem to recall that SYS did not support FAT32 bootsectors for >> Windows 95OSR2.x and Windows98/98SE/ME. Or FAT16, for that matter! It could make floppies, though. > I would suggest to make XMS, no EMS, no UMB the default > and keep the menu (yes, sorry :-p) to select options > like "with JEMM386" or "run only DOS, do not start the > installer" or maybe even "no driver minimal mode". Yet > the latter is already covered when you use F5... ;-). That sounds good (maybe with UIDEJR.SYS for universal cd driver)...though discussion seems to belong on users/devel lists :) Speaking of the menu, I understand that "0" works for safe mode--while the configuration tool assigns a "4" or something else that doesn't. If that could be fixed, it would be nice (and we make it easier on people who just want to flash their BIOS). > From: "Kenneth J. Davis" > The Windows specific patches are minor but add a small amount of code > hence the extra work to enable (Windows is the only application for > them). The kernel worked with windows 3.11 in enhanced mode except for > an issue with keyboard input in DOS boxes not going to the proper VM > instance, but I think this is related to VM instancing which took the > shotgun approach and not the proper these are the parts of the kernel > that need to be instanced. There are a couple settings in win.ini or > system.ini that improve reliability, but really the hard part is > getting a memory manager working reliably. For the kernel, load > FreeDOS share so windows does not try to load the vshare.vxd. Windows > actually goes a bit out of its way, if in a somewhat strange manner at > times, to work with multiple DOS versions. The important parts for > Win3x support I think was really the support added for country (the > internal hooks to allow somewhat reentrant use of DOS). See > http://wiki.fdos.org/Main/Windows for full details about using win3. > Thanks, Jeremy. I should have said 386enh instead of WfW. But this should be an option in all FreeDOS releases, including 1.1. On another note: Abort, Retry, Fail? An A "should" abort, F should fail. But it takes several iterations to end the loop, regardless of key. Someone posted a bug report, but I think DOS386 misunderstood. The bug is the number of times it takes. Thanks, ibidem ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get _______________________________________________ Freedos-kernel mailing list Freedos-kernel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
