Steve Smith wrote at 07/16/2013 10:10 AM: > Exhibit A, One Glen Ropella who can't (by his own declaration) seem to get > through Social Ettiquete 101 in the OldSkool of hard knocking around. What > is that about? It is certainly not (or not obvious to me) about careful > evaluation of consequence trees... It looks a lot like the adherence to an > ideal (and/or aspect of self-image?).
Actually, it is purposeful, but not ideological, on my part. My unwillingness/inability to learn social grace has little to do with ideals and more to do with practice. I simply get along better with people who don't care about social grace. It took me a _long_ time to learn that. I swapped in and out various ideologies trying to find one that fit the data I had in hand. None fit. The best I can come up with is laziness on my part. If laziness is an ideology, then yeah, you got me. ;-) > Do you deny that people (egos) operate strongly on maintaining the integrity > of > their feedback loop of their self-image? Some people do this by soliciting > reinforcing feedback from others. Some do it by talking out loud to > themselves > a lot (like I do here, pretending I'm talking to the rest of you). And some > do > it by picking an idealized spot (or set of spots) on the idealism horizon and > keeping their compass trained on them as they navigate the heavy weather of > modern life. Or all three? No, I don't deny that people (organisms, even) are strongly driven by a homeostatic self. I just deny that it is solely or mostly in the _mind_. I believe people (like other organisms) have a huge number of feed forward and feedback loops that constitute their self. The overwhelming majority of them are physiological. E.g. it's much much easier to change a person (change their self) using chemicals and physical stimulus than it is using words. -- ⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella There is a velvet room for the discriminating pack. ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
