I love the music. Frank
Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jun 24, 2017 9:02 PM, "Vladimyr" <vbur...@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > To all the wandering lost colleagues in the congregation, > > thank you all, > > > > So after Tom and Dean’s contributions someone has to assemble a team to > put this together > > in text and images/ > > > > I only realized today that my stupid Flowers were connected to all this > struggle. > > I did suspect something long ago and kept at it. > > My flowers now use 5 simple networks and each is a 28 x 162 Rectangular > Matrix each containing a circular Self Avoiding Walks. > > By connecting all five walks without crossing any path The Flower Emerges. > > > > By warping any single SAW at specific locations with GrowthFactors, > > It appears to grow. If I apply a displacement function to all SAW’s at > once then it appears to move. > > *in truth the flower *only utilizes a very small portion of each simple > network. > > https://1drv.ms/v/s!AjdC7pqwzaUUkyTZd31rUbkkh_ap > > > > Thank you all, but now I am very tired… > > Those infuriating layers may well be each some kind of container > projections/boundaries out side of x,y, and z. > > Perhaps this is all a child’s plaything… > > vladimyr > > > > > > > > Tom-- > > > > Fine, informative article. One cohesive view of the evolution of > mathematical thought might be: > > > > 1. Geometry/ number theory. > > > > 2. Early algebra (symbolic thought) > > > > 3. Analysis (analytic geometry and calculus) > > > > 4. Topology. > > > > 5. Abstract algebra (previous century) > > > > 6. Algebraic topology( integrates concepts from many disciplines) Highly > applicable to modern science, e.g. your reverenced article? > > > > Thanks for the link. Dean Gerber > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2017 12:01 PM, Tom Johnson <t...@jtjohnson.com> > wrote: > > > > https://goo.gl/S5yRGF > <https://goo.gl/S5yRGF> > > > ============================================ > Tom Johnson > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > 505.577.6482 <(505)%20577-6482>(c) > 505.473.9646 <(505)%20473-9646>(h) > Society of Professional Journalists <http://www.spj.org/> > *Check out It's The People's Data > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671>* > > http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com > ============================================ > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick > Thompson > *Sent:* June-23-17 4:31 PM > *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought > > > > Thank you, Frank. A really important point. > > > > So bachelor implies unmarried, but unmarried does not imply bachelor. > Your message also contained some additional correspondence which, for some > reason, I have never seen. I have no quick answer to any of it. I still > think that there is an important peril in explanations of the form “A is > the explanation for A” but I am way less confident of my ability to > identify pernicious extensions of that form. And it still seems > significant to me that you complexitists have not identified and agreed > upon a target for your explanatory efforts. (Please remind me, I if I am > wrong about that). So, unless I have gone dozy, we have two outstanding > questions: > > > > 1. When complexitists speak of complexity, to what phenomenon are > they referring? > > 2. What are the conditions that predict the occurrence of such > phenomena. > > 3. Does anybody on this list believe that it is fair to include > parts of your answer to question #1 in your answer to question #2 > > > > One more thing. Back in the email midden several days ago, I said > something to Glen that was inadvertently tactless and overtly stupid. Glen > responded with kindness, generosity, and indefatigable focus on the main > issues. This is to announce my gratitude to Glen for being … well … > Glen. I am honored that you-guys let me sit on the edge of your pool and > dangle my feet in it. That’s a metaphor. > > > > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com > <friam-boun...@redfish.com>] *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 9:52 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought > > > > Has anybody mentioned that there are lot of unmarried men that you usually > wouldn't call bachelors? There are widowers, priests, and nineteen > year-olds, for example. I learned the word because my father's brother was > a thirty-five year old Major in the Air Force with no wife. He eventually > got married and had children. Late bloomer? > > > > Frank > > Frank Wimberly > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > > > On Jun 22, 2017 11:34 PM, "gepr ⛧" <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > But the difference isn't merely rhetorical. If we take the setup > seriously, that the unmarried patient really doesn't know the other names > by which his condition is known, then there are all sorts of different side > effects that might obtain. E.g. if the doctor tells him he's a bachelor, he > might google that and discover bachelor parties. But if the doctor tells > him he is "single", he might discover single's night at the local pub. > > My point was not only the evocation of various ideas, but also the side > effects of various (computational) paths. > > > On June 22, 2017 7:00:55 PM PDT, Eric Charles <eric.phillip.charles@gmail. > com> wrote: > >Glen said: "So, the loop of unmarried <=> bachelor has information in > >it, > >even if the only information is (as in your example), the guy learns > >that > >because the condition has another name, perhaps there are other ways of > >thinking about it ... other _circles_ to use." > > > >This reminds me that, in another context, Nick complained to me quite a > >bit > >about Peirce's asserting that that any concept was simply a collection > >of > >conceived "practical" consequences. He felt that the term "practical" > >was > >unnecessary, and lead to confusions. I think this is a good example of > >why > >Peirce used that term, and felt it necessary. > > > >Perice would point out that the practical consequences of being > >"unmarried" > >are identical to the practical consequences of being "a bachelor." > >Thus, > >though the spellings be different, there is only one idea at play there > >(in > >Peirce-land... if we are thinking clearly). This is the tautology that > >Nick > >is pointing at, and he isn't wrong. > > > >And yet, Glen is still clearly correct that using one term or the other > >may > >more readily invoke certain ideas in a listener. Those aren't practical > >differences in Peirce's sense- they are not differences in practice > >that > >would achieve if one tested the unique implications of one label or the > >other (as there are no contrasting unique implications). The value of > >having the multiple terms is rhetorical, not logical. > > > >What to do with such differences.............. > > -- > ⛧glen⛧ > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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