On Fri, 7 Mar 2014, shaun everiss wrote:
I say this to be telling everyone my opinion.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, as the popular saying goes. What
follows are some of my own.
And I am trying to be as nice as I can.
I think this needs work. JMO. :)
To be honest I do not agree that its all bad.
True expect a bit of bad press everyone should expect some everyone has their
critics.
If you are getting to much then somewhere along the line you have an issue,
now I realise it may not be that obvious but still to say there is to much
bad comments is really not correct.
Regardless of whether this community suffers from groupthink or
fragmentation, this is not the conclusion I would make. We got more
useful, constructive feedback (both positive and negative) as well as
community contributions from our own lists, all while we were being flamed
to death here.
I realise you may need to waid through a bit but thats life.
I'd much rather cater to the users that were open to our design
philosophy. We already knew we weren't going to be favoured by some here,
but that was fine by us -- some of the choices we made were necessary
evils and we felt that we'd be getting a lot more by improving what we
had. Which we did, and I think it paid off. Others disagree, of course,
and that's fine too.
What is not fine is reading lots of email from people who were unwilling
to even _try_ to understand what was going on, but instead bashed the game
purely because it did not meet their immediate expectations. Far from
being as objective as possible, many simply complained that the game did
not work in exactly the way that they thought an audio game should.
Rather than try to accommodate the way that the game worked and understand
how it could be enjoyed -- and I recognise that this was quite difficult
-- they simply condemned it in its entirety.
To be honest, in some ways I fear that new up-and-coming developers will
find this forum before they develop their game, or will be so absolutely
discouraged by some of the behaviour here, that I hope that they finish
their games before they find this and similar venues to announce it in.
I completely understand that people have expectations based on past,
well-developed games, and we should certainly not put up with anything
that is less than perfect simply because it is trivial to exploit our
disability, but frankly there is an abundance of unreasonable, ungrateful
people in the community who simply will not acknowledge anything that they
do not immediately approve of, and instead generalise the developers and
their games as crap. This is a great shame, since it perpetuates a
stereotype about entitlement among the blind, as well as hurting our
chances of more mainstream advancement.
If its broke I have not been affraid to say it and where it is and what may
be wrong.
Absolutely, and it pays to do that. Devs want to know how things can be
better, and why. This is important. However, you must show some respect
for the developer; it isn't all about you. Ask for features, and do not
demand them. Likewise, a good dev will listen and not fail to acknowledge
the facts.
All I am saying as devs and users need to have some flexability with this
sort of thing.
Well, yes. Sadly it doesn't quite seem to work like that with some in
this community. :(
I agree, flaming for no reason but to get noticed is really bad form however
at the same time saying everything is fine because you are to scared to
actually say it isn't is not good.
Flaming to get attention is generally trolling of one kind or another and
can generally be spotted easily.
There is no need to be scared of the developer if all you intend to give
is constructive criticism. Even if the dev is in good standing, politely
pointing out any flaws is nothing to be ashamed of. Perhaps you should
think twice before making controversial statements, though.
I strongly feel that more people need to say what is not good rather than
saying its all fine and expecting it to be fine when its not.
Well, depends on what you mean by "What is not good". If meaningless
attacks on the dev and games is what you mean, then no, I think we can
have less of that, thankyouverymuch. Otherwise, agreed.
Cheers,
Sabahattin
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