> On Sep 14, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Fabian Groffen <grob...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> On 15-09-2018 00:07:12 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps, if one persists on going this route, only do this for platforms
>>> that upstream supports, such that arches which will suffer from this
>>> (typically ppc, sparc, ...) don't have to be blocked by this.
>>
>> Exactly in these cases the -Werror is useful as if upstream expects no
>> warnings then any warning should block installation and trigger bug
>> report. In Gentoo in many cases we use packages on platform has no
>> access to, our feedback to upstream is valuable. A great example is
>> gnutls in which we collectively (maintainer, unstable users,
>> architecture teams, stable users) found issues on architectures that
>> almost nobody other than Gentoo has access to.
>>
>
> I don't believe Gentoo users are (supposed to be) an extension of
> upstreams. If upstreams insist on that, they should make their software
> non-free, adding a non-modification clause or something. In any case,
> it is not Gentoo's job IMHO. In the end it is Gentoo who needs to care
> for its users. I prefer we do that by giving them an option to become
> that extension of upstream, e.g. by USE=upstream-cflags, which Gentoo
> disables by default.
I am in complete agreement on this. Users should not be guinea pigs to help
upstream unless they opt into it.
>
> As maintainer and/or enthusiastic user, like you wrote for gnutls, I
> would be more than happy to provide build logs/errors for all the arches
> I have access to. So like I wrote before, I think we should consider
> case-by-case basis to make it easy to do so.
>
> Fabian
>
> --
> Fabian Groffen
> Gentoo on a different level
