On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:59:59 David W Noon wrote: > On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] > Threads changing Was: OT: website design: > > [snip] > > >Oh, so when it gets broken, I need to find the message before that to > >see where it got messed up. Sorry to use the technical term "messed > >up" but it fits rather well. lol > > Okay, this is my second follow-up to this message, and things are > becoming much clearer in my mind and somewhat more complicated in > reality. > > The message to which I am replying has the following header lines: > > Message-ID: <h088g-8n...@gated-at.bofh.it> > > X-Original-Message-ID: <4deab868.6040...@gmail.com> > > My first reply has these two header lines, the first of which should be > part of the thread formation process used by a good MUA: > > References: <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it> <h0o3m-1jx...@gated-at.bofh.it> > > X-Original-References: <gzysg-h5...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h07vy-7fk...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h07vy-7fk...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h07vy-7fk...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h07vy-7fk...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h07vy-7fk...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h07vy-7fk...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h07vy-7fk...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <gzysg-h5...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h07vy-7fk...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h07vy-7fk...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h07vy-7fk...@gated-at.bofh.it> > <h088g-8n...@gated-at.bofh.it> > > The X-Original-References: line has the correct message id as the last > one in the list. This absolutely correct, which means that Claws-Mail > is doing the right thing. > > The References: line has some really weird replacements for the ones > that were originally in the message I submitted. Unless list messages > are being assigned different message id's for different distribution > mechanisms (SMTP/POP3 and NNTP), this means the list server is broken. > This would be a third, and more pernicious, source of thread breakage. > > In my previous reply to this message, I changed the Subject: line > slightly: I removed the "Was OT: website design" tail. This caused the > thread to break in my MUA too. In turn, this implies that Claws was > "wallpapering over the crack" by rejoining the thread using Subject: > and Date: headers to put the messages into chronological sequence > within Subject: text grouping. I suspect other MUAs are doing the same, > which is why the problem is not perceived more widely. > > I now need to change my subscription details so that I receive messages > by email, as well as through Usenet. This will then tell me if message > id's are the same across delivery mechanisms or different. > > Are we all confused enough for this weekend? ... :-)
Ha, ha! I'm more than others it seems! Also have a look at gmane. Some of your responses (and Indi's) are broken. -- Regards, Mick
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