To me, this development is just yet another Debian architecture and sure, some in Debian community will like. It also connects to Nexenta in many ways - which is good for us. We can't stop such port from happening - so I think we should embrace it as a secondary "lefty" architecture.
On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 11:37 -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: > The kFreeBSD port has had a lot of considerable issues with porting > software. Remember, we'd need to port the ON tools such as the ZFS > admin tools to glibc. > > http://wiki.debian.org/ArchiveQualification/kfreebsd-i386 > > They also haven't been able to get things like the wifi tools for > FreeBSD working. I'm not saying that adapting glibc is a bad thing, > but we need to figure out if we really want to go down this path. > Michael > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Right. And in addition to autotools, such port complicates further ON > > merges which will unavoidably lead to higher rate of errors/bugs. > > > > But because GNU/kFreeBSD exists, I do not see why GNU/kOpenSolaris can't > > be... > > > > On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 09:27 -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Debian's main issue is that parts of Sun's libc are not open (mostly > >> libc_i18n; they require all bits to be open). Having seen the issues > >> kFreeBSD has had with using glibc with their kernel, I'm not sure if > >> its work having a ksolaris port since configure will no longer > >> identify the platform as Solaris, so most autotools scripts will > >> break. > >> Michael > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > >> Comment: http://getfiregpg.org > >> > >> iEYEARECAAYFAkjTqNQACgkQpblTBJ2i2pteBACdET5A0ycn3U+G3S2R+8mCN6vq > >> 0oAAniom7MRTL3P4TR8H1PotiT+R+qSi > >> =8cf5 > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:55 AM, Joerg Schilling > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Yes, such port makes sense and solves some of the issues (mostly GNU > >> >> libc portability) but unfortunately creates new issues, which I'm sure, > >> >> could be worked out and soon we should have more or less working first > >> >> ISO available with support for this new exciting architecture! > >> > > >> > What do you expect from this "port"? > >> > > >> > In glibc, features expected on Solaris are missing. I would expect that > >> > this > >> > port would rather create portabilitly problems than solving any issue. > >> > > >> > > >> >> > makes sense to use glibc. This would also solve the legal problem that > >> >> > Debian had with linking Sun's libc with dpkg [1]. glibc is licensed > >> >> > under LGPL with a linking exception, so linking CDDL code against the > >> >> > glibc is also legal. In keeping with past glibc ports (e.g. kFreeBSD, > >> > > >> > Debian is a license troll. > >> > > >> > There are two ways to deal with this kind of trolling: > >> > > >> > 1) Ignore it comppletely > >> > > >> > 2) find evidence that the claims from Debian are nonsense. > >> > > >> > Taking actions on the Debian trolling is definitely the wrong way. > >> > > >> > BTW: Sun lawyers knows that there is no problem with linking GPLd > >> > applications > >> > against CDDL libraries. The GPL does not forbid it (in fact the GPL does > >> > not > >> > say anything about it as this is something that happens "outside" the GPL > >> > "work"). > >> > > >> > Sun would not ship GNOME and /usr/gnu/* if Sun would not be _very_ > >> > certain that > >> > Debian is trolling. Sun is happily waiting for being sued by a copyright > >> > holder > >> > of a GPLd program shipped with OpenSolaris. _this_ is one way of > >> > implementing > >> > (2) above. > >> > > >> > Jörg > >> > > >> > -- > >> > EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (uni) > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ > >> > URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ > >> > ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > gnusol-devel mailing list > >> > gnusol-devel@lists.sonic.net > >> > http://lists.sonic.net/mailman/listinfo/gnusol-devel > >> > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ gnusol-devel mailing list gnusol-devel@lists.sonic.net http://lists.sonic.net/mailman/listinfo/gnusol-devel
