--- On Sat, 4/24/10, Ivo da C.Souza <icso...@bsnl.in> wrote:
>
> **I did not refer to "money scams" of (Dr.) Dana Ullman, but to his 
> >knowledge of homeopathy, since he has books on homeopathic
> medicine. --- On Sat, 4/24/10, Ivo da C.Souza <icso...@bsnl.in> wrote:
>.....................................................................
> **Homeopathic consultation takes a lot of time (not less
> than 45 minutes). 'Allopathic' physicians are sometimes too fast in >giving 
> prescriptions. Today medical profession is becoming a business >(speaking in 
> general).
> 

I am afraid Fr. Ivo is confused about Dana Ullman. He appears to believe that 
this individual is a qualified homeopath and charges $40 for the first 10 
minute and $3 per minute thereafter, for doctor-patient type homeopathic 
consultation and advice on the phone. This is obviously false. Dana Ullman is 
not a homeopath. He is charging this money for answering theoretical questions 
about homeopathy and referring you to a homeopath on the phone. He is acting as 
a telephonic information service and a middleman between a doctor and a patient.

But even if Ullman was a qualified homeopath, it is important for Fr. Ivo to 
know that it is not appropriate for a doctor to charge money for consultations 
on the phone. 

Furthermore, Ullman cannot be referred to as Dr. Ullman merely on the basis 
that he has books on homeopathy. One has to be appropriately educated and 
qualified to have that prefix attached to his/her name. Anybody can buy books 
on homeopathy or write a book listing all the homeopathic drugs because there 
is not much understanding or
background knowledge that is required to do that. That is also why
anybody can obtain a mail order degree in homeopathy.

Fr. Ivo wrote:
>
>Dr.Gilbert will be quite honest in his work, as he is honest in the 
>>assessment of modern medicine.
>

Regarding Gilbert, he has contributed nothing to this discussion after
simply providing a link to the Huffington Post article. If in providing that 
link entitled "How scientific is modern medicine really?", he was claiming that 
modern medicine was not really scientific, as opposed to homeopathy and other 
healing rituals, then Gilbert would be anything but honest on this matter.

Fr. Ivo and Admin Noronha will not understand this because of their scientific 
illiteracy, and unfamiliarity with modern medicine, but Dr. Gilbert ought to 
know that modern medicine is eminently scientific because it strictly follows 
the self-critical scientific method of falsification by observation or 
experimentation, and it rests on the solid foundations of basic hard sciences, 
namely physics, chemistry and biology, fully consistent with all their 
well-established principles.

Homeopathy, on the other hand, is unscientific because it does not
follow the self-critical method of science, and is completely at odds
with the foundational principles of all the hard sciences. For
example, it holds the superstitious belief that more dilute a solution
is the more potent it is, and that the most potent solution is the one
that does not have a single molecule of active drug dissolved in the solvent 
water. Another superstition that it believes is that water has memory, and that 
it remembers all the substances that were once dissolved in it. 

Homeopathy is entirely based on personal faith, superstitious beliefs and 
subjective feelings. That is why people from the various faith traditions such 
as religious priests are drawn towards it, as is clear from what Fr. Ivo had 
stated in his earlier post. It relies entirely on anecdotes, testimonials, 
grandmother's stories and urban legends, just like astrology, ufology and 
superstitious mysticism.

Unlike Fr. Ivo and Admin Noronha, Dr. Gilbert ought to also recognize that what 
Ullman did was simply rail against doctors, hospitals and pharmaceutical 
companies because they charge too much money for their services and products, 
which is exactly what he himself is doing on his homeopathy promotion website. 
His diatribe also involved an attack on doctors because they point out that 
homeopathy and other alternative rituals are unscientific, in some cases 
tantamount to quackery. Despite the title of his article, Ullman could not tell 
us why modern medicine was not scientific, and what its limitations were from 
the scientific
standpoint. The few statistical claims he made were blatant falsehoods
meant to deceive the readers. I have already pointed out a couple of
these deceptions. I point out another one below:

QUOTE
Although we are commonly told that we are living longer than ever now,
this is simply a clever, even tricky, use of statistics. The fact of
the matter is that there has been a considerable reduction in deaths
during the first five years of life ... and this reduction in deaths
has resulted primarily from a medicinal agent called "soap," not from
the use of any specific conventional pharmaceutical agent.

Ultimately, an American who was 40 years old in 1900 and an American
who was 40 years old in 1960 has a similar chance of living to 80
years old today.
UNQUOTE
.......Dana Ullman

Please see: 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/how-scientific-is-modern_b_543158.html

Talk about stupid and fraudulent use of statistics. Please note how he
makes claims about the "first five years of life" and the situation
"now", but then turns around and provides massaged statistical facts
for age 40 years and the year 1960.

The truth is that life expectancy at age 40 in 1900 was 68 years . In
2004 it had increased to 79 years. In 1960, when modern medicine had
still not become fully scientific the life expectancy at age 40 had
increased to 72 years. But more importantly given his bogus claims
regarding soap in the first five years of life, the life expectancy at
age 5 years has increased from 58 years in 1900 to 78 years in 2000.

This is important because this progress can be entirely accounted for
by scientific progress in modern medicine. The unscientific garbage of
homeopathy has remained totally stagnant in that time. It is virtually
unchanged since Hahneman.

Cheers,

Santosh


      

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