Good to know I'm not the only one that's considered the capture quality to be sub-par. Of course, my issue has been all along on the -250's capture resolution. If you look through my posts from over a year ago, I looked into it quite a bit. If you're looking for a way to objectively determine resolution, I put together a test clip DVD image from stuff I found on the 'net. In particular, the EIA1596 B&W test pattern is good to determing lines of resolution. A DVD-burnable image for NTSC (and an untested PAL) is here:

http://www.ee.vt.edu/~mythtv/mythtvstuff/


That's exactly why I got a 150; I was under the impression that the comb filter would be better and I'd get better quality. I have not found that to be the case though. The filters are enabled by default and I've spent a ton of time trying to tweak them to get the picture better. I usually use the composite input and a DVD source to rule out tuner problems. You can try playing with them yourself, the relevant registers are:
COMB_NOTCH_MODE=0-3
LCOMB_2LN_EN=0/1
LCOMB_3LN_EN=0/1
CCOMB_2LN_EN=0/1
LCOMB_3LN_EN=0/1
LCOMB_ERR_LIMIT=0-255
CCOMB_ERR_LIMIT=0-255
COMB_PHASE_LIMIT=0-255
I also like the results of enabling the sharpness enhancer (which is on on 250/350s)
PEAK_EN=0/1
PEAK_SEL=0-2

I've got a buddy with a PVR-500. AIUI, that's two 150's on the same board, so this should be applicable to that, too, right?

I encourage you to play with the comb filters and see if you can improve the picture quality. I've spent hours on it already and haven't really come up with much. Here's my baseline:
http://capnbry.net/~bmayland/fi/pvr150/pvr150-250.jpg
I'm pretty sure the fuzzyness in the 150's shot is because the CCOMB_ERR_LIMIT was exceeded and it had dropped back to notch. The notch filter blurs things badly (try setting the err limit to 0 to see). There's also a ton of errors in the vertical lines on the sci-fi logo which look horrible even in motion.

At least you're seeing some effect. Most stuff I played with (like the DNR settings) didn't seem to do much unless turned way up. And of course, then it just made things worse.

The notch filter truly is horrible. It limits resolution to effectively 352x480-ish. Lower than VHS IMO. That's the biggest reason not to use bttv-based cards for a mythbox. I do find it good comic relief to hear of people having CPU performance problems capturing 720x480 MPEG4 from a bt878 card, though... :)

-Cory

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* Cory Papenfuss                                                        *
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student               *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University                   *
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