Fernando.
I agree with you about Office. Although I'm still using an older version here, 
I was quite impressed with the ongoing developments in Office 2016 and screen 
reader interaction experienced at my previous workplace.

Was just wondering though...you wrote:
"they're making change to non-microsoft alternatives harder than it was in the 
past,"
Can you explain this?

Cheers.


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I mostly agree. However, it's true that although you can still choose which 
Microsoft or non-Microsoft products to use, they're making change to 
non-microsoft alternatives harder than it was in the past, with no mention to 
the limitations imposed in Windows 10 S.
Regarding Office accessibility, it's also nice to have many tutorials for 
accomplishing various tasks by using a screen reader. The Office Accessibility 
Center addresses a lot of concerns on this.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of crystallo...@ca.inter.net
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I can only speak for myself, but one of the big reasons I have always prefered 
PCs over Macs, and Android phones over iPhones, is the amount of choice 
available. I sympathise with thsoe who really want to use Edge and want it to 
work for them, but the truth is that you don't have to use Microsoft's products 
if they dont' make you happy. Firefox is still a great browser and it's fully 
supported in JAWS. Chrome works beautifully nowadays when three years ago that 
wasn't at all the case. Don't be afraid of choice. Embrace it. Nobody has to 
use Edge and because of the nature of the WWW, that will never be the case. I 
think Microsoft is a lot better with accessibility concerns now than they used 
to be. Its' not perfect, but that's something we should at least be somewhat 
accustomed to by now. Remember when Windows 3.1 came out, and everyone was 
using it except for blind people because of how crap the screen reader support 
was at the time?

And yeah, office accessibility is a work in progress, but they're doing a lot 
to improve it with every update. I can understand why Office is an 
accessibility priority and not Edge. Simply put, there just isn't really a 
great replacement for mS office out there; there's a good reason most of the 
working world still uses it. Edge is just one browser among several.

Quoting Jim Fettgather <jimfettgat...@gmail.com>:

> I must respectfully suggest that if you do have the option of updating 
> Word 2016 to the very latest version, the choices in the spell check 
> dialog are now accessed by simply pressing the tab key, and it works 
> very very well.
> It is highly accessible, I am an office 365 subscriber, so that is how 
> I was able to get the latest update.
> I am unsure about installations of Office that are not on a 365 
> subscription, but I believe that you can go to the Accounts tab under 
> the file tab and attempt to check for updates.
> I completely acknowledge the hideous situation with the Edge browser, 
> but I believe that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in making 
> their plans known to incrementally improve accessibility of their 
> Windows and Office products.
>
>
>
> On 7/9/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good 
>> accessibility teasers,but that is all.
>>
>> I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is 
>> the one good thing, but not enough.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Charles Adkins
>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>
>> It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given 
>> talk and nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like 
>> Macs do they could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the 
>> Edge browser and say no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with 
>> vfo and Office like they did with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or 
>> keep from making computers talk like a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, 
>> shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier said than done.
>>
>> Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. 
>> Microsoft has the money and the ability to do anything they wish.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose <rosecomb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every 
>>> one using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and 
>>> still not truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This 
>>> from company who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am 
>>> supposed to believe they really do consider screen readers along 
>>> with magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left 
>>> out again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or Outlook 2016 
>>> for example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20 
>>> years, eye
>> candy, that is why!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Jason White
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>>
>>> According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft 
>>> Edge is expected to be available soon.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Debby
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:55 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>>
>>> Hi Judy,
>>>
>>> Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are 
>>> not ready to play together.
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>>
>>> Debby
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Judy
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:46 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge
>>>
>>> Hi, I just wonder if anyone is using Microsoft Edge as a browser. Is 
>>> it accessible at all? Thanks. Judy & Libby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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