Well I have been using the Jaws virtual ribbons for years now. I am using office 365, Freedom Scientific does a great job in keeping up with all the automatic updates in all the Microsoft products with Jaws. Any Jaws user is not missing out on anything by using the Jaws virtual ribbons. Again, this is just my opinion through much time in testing the Microsoft products with the Jaws virtual ribbons. They work great with Jaws. Thanks, and smiles.
-----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 3:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... That makes sense to me. As far as I understand the functioning of the virtual ribbons, too (someone correct me though if I am wrong), JAWS may not be keeping up with the frequent Windows 10 updates, so there's a chance you could actually lose functionality or miss out on features if you use these. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... For what it is worth I myself have never tried them at all because it occurred to me that it would not be moving forward with the learning curve that is Windows. In other words how could you help somebody with such an animal IE ribbons in windows if you don't try them out for yourself? -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Guess where I got it from? One of your messages some years ago. But if you posted it, it was right at the time, and probably what you say here explains it. Regardless, Gerald and you posted excellent instructions on how to rid yourself of the virtual ribbon once and for all. Laura is seeing just how strong opinions can be on this list with Jim's new posts. I think he's wrong to say the virtual ribbon makes life easier because shortcuts and first-letter navigation don't work with it. Besides, whenever possible, I would much rather use the options available to everyone and be part of the whole wide world. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave ... Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Adrian, I was curious about that. However I launched Word and then tried the keystroke. It said "collapsed" and then when pressed again, said "expanded". In either case, the virtual ribbon did not appear. Since I have mine disabled in the settings center, this might have an effect. Perhaps this Ctrl+F1 keystroke is meaningful if the virtual ribbon is enabled? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 07:32 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Control+F1 turns the virtual ribbon on and off. That's what my notes say. I've never done it. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon? Laura -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave ... Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... I would turn off the virtual ribbon. It is handy, but you become dependent on them and they don't work as well as the original menus, since they don't use first-letter navigation. I tried them briefly years ago and decided to buckle down and just learn to use the ribbons. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Richardson" <laurak...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Hello, When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner. I've memorized certain shortcut keys to do very specific things but need to learn how to navigate these ribbons. Right now virtual ribbons are turned on .. Would it be easier and more efficient to learn the ribbons if I turned this off? I want and need to learn as much as I can so any feedback and suggestions are greatly appreciated. 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