When I press the windows plus tab I only hear the same window each time I press these keys, and then when using alt tab I hear new desktop.

Maria Campbell
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On 8/4/2016 8:19 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Windows+TAB.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sorry.  I don't know how to open task view I don't think?


Maria Campbell
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On 8/4/2016 7:56 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm, that's odd... What do you see when you open Task View (Windows=TAB)?
If you don't mind, I'll forward this to Win10 forum so people over
there can contact you directly.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Thanks Joseph but I still can alt tab only between two open windows
after choosing all desktops.


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, hunanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 8/4/2016 7:36 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah, default virtual desktops setting might be in effect... Are you
using multiple virtual desktops (that is, can you navigate between
them by pressing Control+Windows+left or right arrows)? Try:
1. Press Windows+I to open Settings, then navigate to
System/Multitasking (select the subcategory and press ENTER).
2. Press TAB until you arrive at "Pressing Alt+Tab shows windows that
are open on" combo box.
3. If you see "only the desktop I'm using", select "all desktops".
Press
TAB
and your preference will be saved.
Let us know if this doesn't resolve the problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

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expect
The only issue I've  seen with the upgrade is that I can only alt tab
between two open windows, even though I have more than two open.  If
anyone
can help me remedy this, I'd love it.  Thanks.



Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, hunanity cannot survive.
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On 8/4/2016 7:16 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
I have upgraded with no issues. well I mostly use NVDA I have a jaws
demo on here as a secondary screen reader in case i need it for
something. I hope though that VFO or freedom scientific makes a free
jaws tied to ms-office or something though so I don't have to
restart every 40 minutes. because I think jaws is better and has
some more useful features than window eyes does.



On 8/4/2016 6:16 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Not quite: FS is aware of display compatibility issue. If you don't
get the error, you can go ahead nad upgrad,e otherwise it is best
to wait for a while.
Cheers,
Joseph

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or just do what i did. bypass it and use the free microsoft media
creation tool and choose upgrade.



On 8/4/2016 4:40 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
I expect Microsoft to roll out a new MCT and/or let Version 1607
propagate throughout the world. As of now, Microsoft and Freedom
Scientific (now
VFO)
are fully aware of display compatibility flag issue for those
upgrading
via
MCT. Unfortunately, not only this affects JAWS, but some
third-party
screen
readers are affected as well (I got messages from two people who
said it affects VFO's other offerings). The advisories I and
others sent out yesterday are still in effect: wait for Version
1607 to show up on Windows Update, or if you really like to use
MCT, you need to fiddle around in Device Manager, uninstall
whichever display driver is offending MCT
(trying
to pinpoint what it is) and proceed. But for many, it is advisable
to use Windows Update.
The advisories and related threads are:
* Update to 1607, no go:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/update_to_1607_no_go/2301501?p=,
,,20,0
,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2301501
* Advisory: for JAWS users, wait until Version 1607 shows up:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/anniversary_update_advisory/2321
788?p=
,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,40,2321788
* Display compatibility flag: MS is aware of this:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/important_anniversary_update/232
7524?p
=,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,0,2327524
For members of certain Groups.IO lists: see the relevant
discussion around Windows 10 Anniversary Update.

As for what's new and different: besides what Jim said, there are
many things new, changed, fixed and removed, including:
* Redesigned systems architecture (OneCore; cannot explain fully
in consideration for the audience scope, but suffice to say that,
with the Windows NT kernel restructuring, things that goes into
core basic
components
will be found on all devices running Windows 10 Anniversary Update
(PC's, smartphones, HoloLens, Xbox, Server 2016, IoT and so on)).
* Vastly improved UI Automation.
* Much better Edge that opens up possibilities via extensions
(touch
cursor
must be employed), UIA attribute changes and no longer allows
traditional ways of virtual cursor to function (the last one came
from a recent Main Menu podcast).
* Settings app reorganized, including the behavior Jim described
earlier.
* New settings in Settings app, including universal dark theme,
projecting screen content from Windows 10 Mobile or another PC,
app notification priorities, dedicated subcategory for Windows
Insider Program, ability to prevent Windows Update from being
attempted at a predefined time period, rearrange and
enable/disable quick actions and more.
* Control Panel's Taskbar properties has moved to Settings app.
* Start menu: reorganized, first-letter navigation partially
returns (see Jim's notes).
* Action Center: when you press Escape, Action Center will close
instead
of
focus moving to a quick action.
* Press Delete from Action Center to remove notifications.
* Toasts (app notifications) no longer fires tooltip event,
potentially confusing screen readers. A slight modification to
FSUIA or related UIA handling code in jfw.exe must be modified to
recognize window open event instead and to keep an eye on UIA
attribute differences between normal and priority toasts.
* Skype Preview app is usable to some extent (touch cursor should
be employed in some cases).
* For Home and Pro, You cannot turn off Cortana easily (you need
to go deeper into Group Policy to change this). You can do this
easily (or in
some
cases, Cortana might be disabled) if using Pro Education,
Enterprise and Education.
* You can invoke Cortana from lock screen if you choose.
* Windows Subsystem for Linux, complete with Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty)
image
(x64 only), Bash (Bourn Again Shell), emulation of Linux kernel
3.4 API
and
so on. Running GUI Linux programs will require a hack, and kernel
modules, such as Speakup will not run.
* User Account Control (UAC) dialog interface is now powered by
XAML (eXtensible application Markup Language), the UI technology
that powers universal apps.
* You can pin apps or some windows from apps across virtual desktops.
* You cannot share Wi-Fi passwords with contacts.
* Windows Ink to centralize pen support and to provide a workspace
for pen and touchscreen users.
* Windows+Shift+C instead of Windows+C to invoke Cortana.
* Windows+Alt+D to open time and calendar.
* Ability to change audio devices straight from Volume Control
(there is a split button to do this).
* Windows+F is used to open Feedback Hub app with screenshots.
Consequently,
there is no more Insider Hub nor Windows Feedback apps.
* Windows Insider Program participants will get first of a series
of
builds
for Redstone 2 sometime this month, with the next stable build
scheduled
for
2017.
* No more 260 character limit for file paths (raised to 32K chars).
* General performance improvements were observed.

Good luck.
Cheers,
Joseph


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Holger
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:58 PM
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expect
Still waiting for the update




Holger Fiallo
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On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:33 PM, James Flusche
<jim.flus...@outlook.com>
wrote:
Hi Jaws user list.
Hi group, I just did a Jaws tandem into Ed's new laptop which is
running
the anniversary update of W-10.
The settings area, changes:

1.       After pressing Windows key+I, you are now in the search edit
box.
2.       Tab one time to the category list of 9 main categories.

3.       After pressing enter on any of these categories, again you
are
in
the search edit box, just tab one time to the list of sub-categories.
4.       . The first sub-category is always selected for you.

5.       Just begin tabbing across the choices.

6.       Again Jaws speaks too much information, just like at the
first.

7.       Always press, insert+Tab, this makes Jaws repeat what
control
you
are sitting on.
8.       There are many new sub-categories in this new update.

9.       I found a few places where Jaws had a hard time.

10.   But overall, worked pretty good, at times, too much speaking.

The start button area:

1.       After pressing the windows key, or pressing enter on the
start
button.
2.       You are in the search edit box.

3.       Tab one time to, the navigation button.

4.       Press the down arrow to get to all your shortcuts,
Documents,
downloads, personal folders, and power button.
5.       Tab again to, your list of apps and programs.

6.       First letter navigation only works from say, A to B. From
whatever letter you are currently in to, to the next letter, no
further.
7.       Tab again to, the live tile region.
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