Hi, Uh oh, something really odd might be going on... Have you tried with Narrator with the same results, and is this with Anniversary Update? If so, try contacting MS accessibility support desk and see what's next. In the meantime, I'll forward this thread to Win10 group (if you give me permission) so others can investigate. Cheers, Joseph
-----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to expect When I press the windows plus tab I only hear the same window each time I press these keys, and then when using alt tab I hear new desktop. Maria Campbell luc...@gmail.com Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, hunanity cannot survive. --Dalai Lama On 8/4/2016 8:19 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: > Hi, > Windows+TAB. > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Maria Campbell > Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:03 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to expect > > Sorry. I don't know how to open task view I don't think? > > > Maria Campbell > luc...@gmail.com > > Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. > Without them, hunanity cannot survive. > --Dalai Lama > > On 8/4/2016 7:56 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: >> Hi, >> Hmmm, that's odd... What do you see when you open Task View (Windows=TAB)? >> If you don't mind, I'll forward this to Win10 forum so people over >> there can contact you directly. >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell >> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 4:51 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to >> expect >> >> Thanks Joseph but I still can alt tab only between two open windows >> after choosing all desktops. >> >> >> Maria Campbell >> luc...@gmail.com >> >> Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. >> Without them, hunanity cannot survive. >> --Dalai Lama >> >> On 8/4/2016 7:36 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Ah, default virtual desktops setting might be in effect... Are you >>> using multiple virtual desktops (that is, can you navigate between >>> them by pressing Control+Windows+left or right arrows)? Try: >>> 1. Press Windows+I to open Settings, then navigate to >>> System/Multitasking (select the subcategory and press ENTER). >>> 2. Press TAB until you arrive at "Pressing Alt+Tab shows windows that >>> are open on" combo box. >>> 3. If you see "only the desktop I'm using", select "all desktops". >>> Press >> TAB >>> and your preference will be saved. >>> Let us know if this doesn't resolve the problem. >>> Cheers, >>> Joseph >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >>> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell >>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 4:27 PM >>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes to >> expect >>> The only issue I've seen with the upgrade is that I can only alt tab >>> between two open windows, even though I have more than two open. If >> anyone >>> can help me remedy this, I'd love it. Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Maria Campbell >>> luc...@gmail.com >>> >>> Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. >>> Without them, hunanity cannot survive. >>> --Dalai Lama >>> >>> On 8/4/2016 7:16 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote: >>>> I have upgraded with no issues. well I mostly use NVDA I have a jaws >>>> demo on here as a secondary screen reader in case i need it for >>>> something. I hope though that VFO or freedom scientific makes a free >>>> jaws tied to ms-office or something though so I don't have to >>>> restart every 40 minutes. because I think jaws is better and has >>>> some more useful features than window eyes does. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/4/2016 6:16 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Not quite: FS is aware of display compatibility issue. If you don't >>>>> get the error, you can go ahead nad upgrad,e otherwise it is best >>>>> to wait for a while. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Joseph >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy >>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 3:11 PM >>>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes >>>>> to expect >>>>> >>>>> or just do what i did. bypass it and use the free microsoft media >>>>> creation tool and choose upgrade. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/4/2016 4:40 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> I expect Microsoft to roll out a new MCT and/or let Version 1607 >>>>>> propagate throughout the world. As of now, Microsoft and Freedom >>>>>> Scientific (now >>>>> VFO) >>>>>> are fully aware of display compatibility flag issue for those >>>>>> upgrading >>>>> via >>>>>> MCT. Unfortunately, not only this affects JAWS, but some >>>>>> third-party >>>>> screen >>>>>> readers are affected as well (I got messages from two people who >>>>>> said it affects VFO's other offerings). The advisories I and >>>>>> others sent out yesterday are still in effect: wait for Version >>>>>> 1607 to show up on Windows Update, or if you really like to use >>>>>> MCT, you need to fiddle around in Device Manager, uninstall >>>>>> whichever display driver is offending MCT >>>>> (trying >>>>>> to pinpoint what it is) and proceed. But for many, it is advisable >>>>>> to use Windows Update. >>>>>> The advisories and related threads are: >>>>>> * Update to 1607, no go: >>>>>> >> https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/update_to_1607_no_go/2301501?p=, >> ,,20,0 >>>>>> ,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,20,2301501 >>>>>> * Advisory: for JAWS users, wait until Version 1607 shows up: >>>>>> >> https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/anniversary_update_advisory/2321 >> 788?p= >>>>>> ,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,40,2321788 >>>>>> * Display compatibility flag: MS is aware of this: >>>>>> >> https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/important_anniversary_update/232 >> 7524?p >>>>>> =,,,20,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,0,2327524 >>>>>> For members of certain Groups.IO lists: see the relevant >>>>>> discussion around Windows 10 Anniversary Update. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for what's new and different: besides what Jim said, there are >>>>>> many things new, changed, fixed and removed, including: >>>>>> * Redesigned systems architecture (OneCore; cannot explain fully >>>>>> in consideration for the audience scope, but suffice to say that, >>>>>> with the Windows NT kernel restructuring, things that goes into >>>>>> core basic >>>>> components >>>>>> will be found on all devices running Windows 10 Anniversary Update >>>>>> (PC's, smartphones, HoloLens, Xbox, Server 2016, IoT and so on)). >>>>>> * Vastly improved UI Automation. >>>>>> * Much better Edge that opens up possibilities via extensions >>>>>> (touch >>>>> cursor >>>>>> must be employed), UIA attribute changes and no longer allows >>>>>> traditional ways of virtual cursor to function (the last one came >>>>>> from a recent Main Menu podcast). >>>>>> * Settings app reorganized, including the behavior Jim described >>>>>> earlier. >>>>>> * New settings in Settings app, including universal dark theme, >>>>>> projecting screen content from Windows 10 Mobile or another PC, >>>>>> app notification priorities, dedicated subcategory for Windows >>>>>> Insider Program, ability to prevent Windows Update from being >>>>>> attempted at a predefined time period, rearrange and >>>>>> enable/disable quick actions and more. >>>>>> * Control Panel's Taskbar properties has moved to Settings app. >>>>>> * Start menu: reorganized, first-letter navigation partially >>>>>> returns (see Jim's notes). >>>>>> * Action Center: when you press Escape, Action Center will close >>>>>> instead >>>>> of >>>>>> focus moving to a quick action. >>>>>> * Press Delete from Action Center to remove notifications. >>>>>> * Toasts (app notifications) no longer fires tooltip event, >>>>>> potentially confusing screen readers. A slight modification to >>>>>> FSUIA or related UIA handling code in jfw.exe must be modified to >>>>>> recognize window open event instead and to keep an eye on UIA >>>>>> attribute differences between normal and priority toasts. >>>>>> * Skype Preview app is usable to some extent (touch cursor should >>>>>> be employed in some cases). >>>>>> * For Home and Pro, You cannot turn off Cortana easily (you need >>>>>> to go deeper into Group Policy to change this). You can do this >>>>>> easily (or in >>>>> some >>>>>> cases, Cortana might be disabled) if using Pro Education, >>>>>> Enterprise and Education. >>>>>> * You can invoke Cortana from lock screen if you choose. >>>>>> * Windows Subsystem for Linux, complete with Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty) >>>>>> image >>>>>> (x64 only), Bash (Bourn Again Shell), emulation of Linux kernel >>>>>> 3.4 API >>>>> and >>>>>> so on. Running GUI Linux programs will require a hack, and kernel >>>>>> modules, such as Speakup will not run. >>>>>> * User Account Control (UAC) dialog interface is now powered by >>>>>> XAML (eXtensible application Markup Language), the UI technology >>>>>> that powers universal apps. >>>>>> * You can pin apps or some windows from apps across virtual desktops. >>>>>> * You cannot share Wi-Fi passwords with contacts. >>>>>> * Windows Ink to centralize pen support and to provide a workspace >>>>>> for pen and touchscreen users. >>>>>> * Windows+Shift+C instead of Windows+C to invoke Cortana. >>>>>> * Windows+Alt+D to open time and calendar. >>>>>> * Ability to change audio devices straight from Volume Control >>>>>> (there is a split button to do this). >>>>>> * Windows+F is used to open Feedback Hub app with screenshots. >>>>> Consequently, >>>>>> there is no more Insider Hub nor Windows Feedback apps. >>>>>> * Windows Insider Program participants will get first of a series >>>>>> of >>>>> builds >>>>>> for Redstone 2 sometime this month, with the next stable build >>>>>> scheduled >>>>> for >>>>>> 2017. >>>>>> * No more 260 character limit for file paths (raised to 32K chars). >>>>>> * General performance improvements were observed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Joseph >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: JAWS-Users-List >>>>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Holger >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:58 PM >>>>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The anniversary update to W-10, changes >>>>>> to >>>>> expect >>>>>> Still waiting for the update >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Holger Fiallo >>>>>> Send from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:33 PM, James Flusche >>>>>>> <jim.flus...@outlook.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Jaws user list. >>>>>>> Hi group, I just did a Jaws tandem into Ed's new laptop which is >>>>>>> running >>>>>> the anniversary update of W-10. >>>>>>> The settings area, changes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. After pressing Windows key+I, you are now in the search edit >>>>> box. >>>>>>> 2. Tab one time to the category list of 9 main categories. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. After pressing enter on any of these categories, again you >>>>>>> are >>>>> in >>>>>> the search edit box, just tab one time to the list of sub-categories. >>>>>>> 4. . The first sub-category is always selected for you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Just begin tabbing across the choices. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. Again Jaws speaks too much information, just like at the >>>>>>> first. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7. Always press, insert+Tab, this makes Jaws repeat what > control >>>>> you >>>>>> are sitting on. >>>>>>> 8. There are many new sub-categories in this new update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 9. I found a few places where Jaws had a hard time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 10. But overall, worked pretty good, at times, too much speaking. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The start button area: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. After pressing the windows key, or pressing enter on the >>>>>>> start >>>>>> button. >>>>>>> 2. You are in the search edit box. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Tab one time to, the navigation button. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Press the down arrow to get to all your shortcuts, > Documents, >>>>>> downloads, personal folders, and power button. >>>>>>> 5. Tab again to, your list of apps and programs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. First letter navigation only works from say, A to B. From >>>>>> whatever letter you are currently in to, to the next letter, no >>>>>> further. >>>>>>> 7. Tab again to, the live tile region. >>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
