On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Rolf Huehne <rhue...@fli-leibniz.de> wrote:
> On 12/03/2014 02:00 PM, Robert Hanson wrote:
> > [I prefer to refer to the Java application as "Jmol" still, not JSmol,
> > please. That's too twisted for me!]
> >
> Bob, but wasn't it you who turned away from the separation at the
> beginning into JSmol=Javascript and Jmol=Java to
> JSmol=Javascript/Java/WebGL making everything to JSmol, logically also
> including the application?
> To avoid confusions I just have adapted to that and started to think of
> Jmol as JSmol in general.
>
I make the distinction for the Java application still.
> >> application main menu customizable on the fly (like the popup menu) and
> >> ideally also the icon toolbar with customized icons?
> >>
> >>
> > not possible. These are hard-coded
> >
> So to change anything in the toolbar or the main menu even only at
> startup it would be necessary to build a seperate other application?
>
>
well, or rewrite some code to load auxiliary files or something like that.
> >
> >> Since 'Java webstart' supposedly will be the only alternative to get the
> >> Java version of JSmol running from the Web after (some of) the major
> >> browsers have dropped the Java plugins, it would be helpful to have also
> >> more control over the appearance and functionality of the application.
> >>
> >
> >
> > That's not entirely true. You can run the Jmol Java applet outside a
> > browser. Just start the JNLP files in the java directory of the JSmol
> > distribution. That's entirely outside any browser.
> >
> The applet would be fully functional except for stuff related to browser
> communication?
>
right -- just no JavaScript buttons and such -- the frame itself only
>
> Could the Java console also be opened like in the application?
>
The Jmol applet console opens in a separate frame in front of the applet.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Another use case for a customizable application would be if someone
> >> (like me) would like to use the JSmol application with a different focus
> >> than molecular structures or enhance for example the modelkit
> >> functionality or the application functionality in general.
> >>
> >>
> > I do think this is an interesting suggestion. What about the Macros menu?
> > This seems to be under-utilized.
> >
> For enhancements this could be useful. But for shifting the focus it
> would be necessary to get rid and/or rename some of the existing menu
> entries or toolbar icons.
>
>
If there's much to change, that's certainly writing a new application. You
need a whole raft of additional files -- icons, button layouts, all sorts
of things. The top application menu is basically a text file that could be
read on demand. See
sourceforge.net/p/jmol/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/Jmol/src/org/openscience/jmol/app/jmolpanel/Properties/Jmol-resources.properties
A good project for a volunteer, perhaps. Not I.....
> Regards,
> Rolf
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