Mas... policy no-OSS di client itu dah commonsense. Bukan hal baru On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Edward Yakop <e...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > 2009/6/9 Hendry Luk <hendrym...@gmail.com <hendrymail%40gmail.com>>: > > > Gw dah sering liat banyak company yang strictly nolak any OSS part dari > > project yg dikerjain vendor2nya. They make it loud n clear. Terutama dari > > banking industry. > > Banking industry yang pakek java banyak yang pakek OSS secara lansung > atau tidak langsung. > http://www.springsource.com/customers > http://customers.redhat.com/category/industry/financial/ > http://www.pentaho.com/about/customers/ > > I can go on. > > > Law suit cuma 1 hal. Future developments n needs yang gak compatible > dengan > > policy OSS licensenya.. itu juga laen hal. Hal yang paling expensive buat > > mereka juga adalah gak ada pihak yang legally responsible terhadap OSS > > project. Kalo productnya ada flaw... worst casenya, lo cuma dapet > response > > dari community... "yeah, send me the patch", "I'll look at it when i feel > > like to", ato "dude.. its free.. for god sake just take it or leave it. > Or > > better, why don't you fix it and contribute something for what you get?". > > Kalo ada cacat, gak ada yang bisa dijadiin kambing hitam yang mereka bisa > > legally minta pertanggungjawaban. > > Again back to this FUD. > Just choose OSS project that are backed by reputable team/company or > even better get a support contract. > redhat, Spring, SUN (for mysql), jetty. > > If your statement is true, nobody will use linux. > > > Banyaak banget client yang terang2an strict no-OSS policy. Mereka lebih > > prefer solusi2 official, misalnya dari IBM... yang akhirnya mereka > complaint > > siapa bilang java murah? OS non windows juga larinya ke box Solaris yang > > anything but cheap. > > citation needed. > > > Di .net in particular banyak banget client yang strict no OSS, dan > nolak2in > > project yang mengandung NHibernate, nServiceBus, Windsor, Monorail, n > > stuffs. Mereka demand product yg "official" (baca: keluaran redmond)... > yang > > dah lengkap dari ORM, DI container, MVC dalam frameworknya. > > That's because .net OSS movement is not as matured as Java. > > > Kenapa ini lebih common di .net (daripada java)? Kenapa mereka pilih .net > in > > first place? Because mereka lari ke .net justru karna solusi official > > non-OSS nya lebih gampang n murah (in fact, they're all free). > > Is it because of legacy code? > The team knows microsoft stack very well > The company already pays a support contract with microsoft > After all, java as a language is not newer than other Mircosoft SDK and > migration works cost a lot of money and risks. > > > Di pasar non-OSS kayak ginilah, keunggulan java (mix n play OSS products) > > justru jadi kelemahan. > > According to who? > > > Dan for all its worth, gw juga benci company2 yg ngelarang OSS.. karna > > hampir semua tooling favorite gw dari OSS.. Tapi alas, itu fact yg we > have > > to live with. > > Benci is a strong word :P > > Regards, > Edward Yakop > >
