Thanks Ron - I'll take a look at the terms. You choose not to discuss it here, but others first brought up their experiences with Ancestry.com as it related to uploads or downloads. But I hope this user forum for Legacy is not so narrow as to disallow a related genealogy subject. Plus - your point about agreeing with the terms - sure, that's why I posted the comment. Most of the time the terms are so long, a lot of people don't take the time to read every word, so if someone else can give us a heads-up, I'm glad to know about it...

Just my thoughts...
Jerry

Ron Ferguson wrote:
Jerry,

You need to read Ancestry's terms and conditions, which are not hidden away, on their site. When uploading you agree to them, so they do nothing without the user's consent.

Whether they should, or should not, accept ownership is a different question, and this is a Legacy User Group not Ancestry, so I will not discuss this point.

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----- Original Message ----- From: ...
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: 03 November 2009 21:54
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy


Hi, I'm a new person back using this forum and recently updated to Legacy 7.

One of my genealogy friends said, that the reason she did not share her hard-owned information with Ancestry.com, that she had researched over the years, was because their fine prints states that they own the information, once you upload to them. Have the courts addressed this? I once downloaded some valuable information from a membership I had with World Family Tree, but I think they stated something very similar in their terms and conditions. However, how can they own something legally that you created, from your own hard work? I just don't know the answer to that.

Jerry in Michigan, USA

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
I agree with Jenny on this. I could care less how many people copy verbatim
the information and dialog found within my family file. I have many
photographs supplied by others on my web site but I always include "Photo
Courtesy of ..."

But just one additional point for William: your "data" does not belong to
you and you cannot assert any claim or copyrights over most of the raw data.
Images, recordings, stories, look & feel, and other things can be
copyrighted. But data like "born in 1850, married in 1870, and died in 1920"
cannot belong to anyone. For years there have been long and furious
discussions on various forums that addressed this issue. How and why
Ancestry.com claims copyright protections on the data on their servers is a
matter left for the attorneys and courts to sort out.

Brian in CA


-----Original Message-----
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry.ca direct link to Legacy

William H. Boswell wrote

I've had the same problem with pirating of my data which is why I no
longer upload my information especially on Ancestry.com.


I really don't care if people want to "pirate" any data I put on line.
I don't guarantee that all my data is 100% accurate so if they think it
is that's their problem.  If they want to deprive themselves of all the
fun of doing their own research, that's their problem.  On the other
hand, if a previously unknown/unfound relative of mine is able to make
contact with me because of my online tree, so much the better.

Of course, it's always much *nicer* if someone asks if they might use
your data and I always try and ask permission of anyone whose online
data I might want to use.  It's only polite.





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