It seems Europe isn't safe either from data mining, due to overreach: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/google-admits-patriot-act-requests-handed-over-european-data-to-u-s-authorities/12191
NK On 2013-06-09, at 1:22 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <ja...@appelbaum.net> wrote: > Nadim Kobeissi: >> >> On 2013-06-09, at 1:02 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <ja...@appelbaum.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Nadim Kobeissi: >>>> Jake, I don't agree with x z (and rather agree with you), but >>>> I'm really tired of just how aggressive and rude you always are >>>> on Libtech. And it doesn't appear to just be towards me. I'm not >>>> the only person who feels like this. >>>> >>>> Even if you're right, tone your ego knob down already. Be nice. I >>>> can barely read through threads anymore. Thank you. >>> >>> Dear Nadim, >>> >>> I'm sorry that your felt that I was aggressive and rude. It wasn't >>> my intention. Nor do I think that my last email had anything to do >>> with my ego. >>> >>> I was defending Glenn's reputation and his findings - which seem >>> absolutely solid from where I'm standing. >> >> What a nice thing to say! Thank you! :-) I think Glenn Greenwald is a >> wonderful journalist who really revealed a hugely meaningful story. >> Maybe not the story of the decade overall, but perhaps the story of >> the decade when it comes to computer and information security and >> privacy. >> >> The thing is, I agree with you almost all the time. But you alienate >> me (and I think others too) because of the ruthlessness in which you >> express yourself. Even well-known members of a community do not >> obtain a license to talk down to others. >> > > I'm sorry that you think I am rutheless. I feel that I actually have > quite a lot of compassion and I regularly express it. I do not generally > feel pity - to feel pity, generally one must place oneself above others > - which isn't useful or productive. > >> I think it's super nice of you to be this considerate and I think >> this is a solid contribution to improving the mood of this list. I >> hope "x z" also appreciates this clarification! Hurray for Jake! >> > > Do you suppose you might reply to the points that I made? > > You asserted that I was aggressive and rude. I contested it. Did you > decide that my previous emails were not so, after clarification, or what? > > All the best, > Jake > -- > Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
