Exactly.  Anyone that gets something from the USG deserves to know that they 
won't be facing a patent lawsuit from any of the contributors.

Thanks,
Cem Karan

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> In military contracting , patent grants are key to the point where I wouldn't 
> consider a non patent granting license from, say, lockheed as
> being open source at all.
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> On Aug 18, 2016 3:05 PM, "Tzeng, Nigel H." <nigel.tz...@jhuapl.edu < 
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>       On 8/18/16, 3:57 PM, "License-discuss on behalf of Lawrence Rosen"
>       <license-discuss-boun...@opensource.org < 
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>       >Nigel Tzeng wrote:
>       >> The issue here is for code that is potentially quite substantial.  I
>       >>would think that would be a different scenario.
>       >
>       >If I include the works of Shakespeare in my software, it would of 
> course
>       >be substantial and yet still be public domain almost everywhere (?).
> 
>       If patents aren't a concern then okay.  Copyright lasts longer than
>       patents so for anything that is in the public domain because of age then
>       no patents would still apply.
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>       There isn¹t a lot of code that has aged out.  Only code written between
>       before 1963 and didn¹t get a renewal.
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