Linux-Advocacy Digest #240, Volume #32 Fri, 16 Feb 01 14:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American (pip)
Re: Linux 64 bit and Windows 32 bit (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: I will give MS credit for one thing (pip)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: The Windows guy. (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Kulkis blows goats! Its official! (pip)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Interesting article (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux (Bob Hauck)
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:21:31 +0000
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[snip]>
> > What Ximinan _does_ support is making things a whole lot better
> > for Linux users.
>
> At the cost of a few human lives. (if you don't see the connection, look
> harder. If the Chinese government uses Linux for their primary OS, and
> changes are contributed to support the Chinese government, then clearly
> Linux is actively being used to assist human rights violations)
>
> If that doesn't matter to you, no big deal. If it does, you'd be a
> hypocrite to use Linux.
What a pile of steaming crap. you are not worth the keystrokes...
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux 64 bit and Windows 32 bit
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:25:15 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > It seems unlikely that the Itanium code can be called finished until the
> > chip ships.
>
> In case you hadn't noticed, the Itanium is shipping now, in HP computers.
>
> MS somehow coerced intel in to not releasing it for lower end stuff until
> MS were finished.
To the benefit of AMD.
I'll bet this is the LAST time Intel ever makes a deal like that.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
> weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
> - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
> |eng.ox.ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:28:17 -0500
Hugh Lawson wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> >So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
> >counties?
> >
> >Is that a sign that not even a Democrat candidate can trust
> >a Democrat election board to do things properly?
>
> I am a Democrat. Please take your politics to a political forum.
>
Fuck off.
> --
> Hugh Lawson
> Greensboro, North Carolina
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I will give MS credit for one thing
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:28:03 +0000
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> pip wrote:
> >
> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > > [snip
> > > > [snip]
> > > > Microsoft is pretty good at making high-level applications. The
> > > > big problem is that they keep treating their OSes and their libraries
> > > > like they were supposed to be high-level applications too. They just
> > > > don't get the idea of building in clearly defined layers that don't
> > > > contaminate each other.
> > >
> > > To me, this indicates that Gates has NEVER bothered to hire
> > > and give even mediocre programmers decision-making authority.
> >
> > I beg to differ kind sir. I think that the problem
> > with M$ is that any programmer who is any good gets
> > promoted to not doing coding - therefore they always
> > have more junior programmers coding. This is a _real_
> > problem as I think the culture may be stock + management = power.
>
> Doesn't make sense...because if decent programmers were in
> positions of power, the platform wouldn't be the fucking
> mess of spaghetti that it is.
I can count on one hand the number of good programmers I know
who are also good managers. IMHO they are incompatible professions
except for the truly gifted. Most (excuse the use of generalities)
don't touch code again as it is now "below them", confining themselves
to design documents, long drwn-out meetings, uml diagrams and powerpoint
presentations to more senior management.
Cynical, me?
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:30:19 -0500
Hugh Lawson wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> >So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
> >counties?
> >
> >Is that a sign that not even a Democrat candidate can trust
> >a Democrat election board to do things properly?
>
> I am a Democrat. Please take your politics to a political forum.
>
Fuck off, Socialist.
democracy: A government of the masses. Authority derived through
mass meeting or any form of 'direct' expression.
Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic-negating
property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority
shall egulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed
by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without retraint or consequences.
Results in demagoguery, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
Source: 1928 U.S. Army Training Manual
Remember..by "democratic" theory, M$ would be the only choice,
because that's what the mob of simpletons uses.
> --
> Hugh Lawson
> Greensboro, North Carolina
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:31:25 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Bloody Viking wrote:
> > >
> > > Walt wrote:
> > >
> > > : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people in
> > > : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections. And of
> > > : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
> > >
> > > And in Florida, the GOP does the same crap. And we all know about
> > > the election debacle that ensued.
> >
> > So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
> > counties?
>
> it's a simple matter of statistics. imagine two voting districts.
> one 70% repulican, 30% democrat. one 30% R and 70% D.
> say that 10% of all ballots are not counted for whatever reason.
> suppose further that political affiliation is independent to
> counted/uncounted ballots. then, every ballot recovered in the
> former, largely republican district, will be more likely to be
> republican. in the latter district, they will tend to be democratic.
> of course gore will push for a recount where it will help him most.
>
It still doesn't change the fact that by challenging their counts,
Gore was calling the Democrat-run election boards a bunch of liars.
> both parties did what they could to win. believing the rhetoric of
> either of them is silly.
>
> --
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> sysengr
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:32:45 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tim Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Edward Rosten wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tim Hanson"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Edward Rosten wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > He's talking non-interactive. With an interactive editor like
> >> >> > > Notepad or vi, one must manually open the file into the text
> >> >> > > buffer and do
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Vi can do noninteractive stuff. Wirte a script for the ex abck end
> >> >> > and execute that, just like ed scripts, but better.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Ed
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "Ed is the one true editor...."
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Ed??!? You use ed? What a wimp! Anything above DEBUG is a waste of
> >> > resources. It's a little hard to duplicate graphics in hex,
> >> > though...
> >> > :-)
> >>
> >> Pfeh! When I *really* want to get something done, I use cat.
> >>
> >> -ed
> >>
> >
> > Sorry for the delay in responding. One of the LEDs above my front panel
> > switches is acting up. I get distracted and lose my place in the file.
>
> I recently invested in a Teletype. My paper bills have gone through the
> roof, but I can now use line orientated tools such as ed, rather than
> having to rely on the 1 byte at a time leds on the front.
>
> I really think that these teletypes will be the next big thing.
>
baaaaaaah, paper punch tape is all you need.
> -Ed
>
>
> --
> Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
> weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
> - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
> |eng.ox.ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kulkis blows goats! Its official!
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:31:53 +0000
Good! I am not alone then.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:36:08 -0500
Tim Hanson wrote:
>
> Edward Rosten wrote:
> >
> > > Wrapping himself in the American flag, Microsoft's Allchin says: ''I'm
> > > an American, I believe in the American Way,''
>
> No he's not. He's from Redmond, which is eleven inches above the rest
> of the world. His ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) closest glimpse of America is
> the Red Robin at Redmond Square.
Are the going to build a mausoleum there, and hire a team of scientists
to preserve Bill Gates' corpse, and then stand on top of said mausoleum
to review the battle hardware in a big annual May Day parade?
It seems to be the standard path of all personality cults.
>
> > he said. ''I worry if the
> > > government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough
> > > education of policy makers to understand the threat.''
> > >
> > > What in the WORLD is that supposed to mean?
>
> He ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) believes that if let go, open sourcers will
> multiply like rabbits and flood Redmond with cheap imported plastic
> toys.
>
> > >
> > > SOMEONE NEEDS TO WATCH VERY CLOSELY THAT THIS "EDUCATION" DOES NOT COME
> > > IN THE FORM OF MASSIVE POLITICAL DONATIONS.
>
> Actually, I think Allchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) was just taking
> advantage of a really dumb reporter who knows a little about investing
> and nothing about computers. Anyone in the computer business wouldn't
> have let him get away with that crap. But don't tell him
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
>
Actually, I think the reporter did EVERYBODY a big service, by
showing the entire world EXACTLY what kind of lowlife Allchin is.
> >
> > I believe that `political re-education' is quite common in dictatorships
> >
> > -Ed
> >
> > --
> > Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
> > weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
> > - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
> > |eng.ox.ac.uk
>
> --
> Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm.
> -- Publius Syrus
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:36:03 GMT
Edward Rosten writes:
>>>>>>>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>>>>>>>>> Tholen, David
>>>>>>>>> 1505 Alexander St,
>>>>>>>>> Honolulu, HI 96822-4978
>>>>>>>>> (808)941-3552
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tholen, David Alexander St Apt 406, Honolulu, HI
>>>>>>>>> 96822
>>>>>>>> Of what relevance is that, Kulkis?
>>>>>>> Is this correct (even if it is not relavent)?
>>>>>> What difference would it make?
>>>>> To what?
>>>> More like "to whom", given that you're the one asking the question. Or
>>>> do you consider yourself a "what"?
>>> It would go some way towards demonstrating Kulkis' credibility if it
>>> were true.
>> The issue is not Kulkis' credibility at the moment, but rather the
>> relevance of his posting.
> Where did you get that idea?
>From what I wrote immediately after he posted that material.
> My question was not about the relevance of Kulkis' post, but about
> its accuracy.
Thus non sequitur.
> Whether relavent or not, is Kulkis' post accurate?
What difference would it make?
> (This has now become a question of his cerdibility).
On what basis do you make that claim, and what is "cerdibility"?
>>>>>> My question is about the relevance, not
>>>>> So?
>>>> Precisely. What difference would it make?
>>> To what or to whom?
>> More like "to whom", given that you're the one asking the question. Or
>> do you consider yourself a "what"?
> I am both an object and a person, so either will do. So, to what or whom
> would this post make a difference to?
You apparently, given that you're the one asking the question, as if
it would make a difference.
>>>>>> the correctness. I could also ask about the redundancy.
>>>>> Is it correct (relavence aside)?
>>>> What difference would it make?
>>> To what or to whom?
>> More like "to whom", given that you're the one asking the question. Or
>> do you consider yourself a "what"?
> This part should be ended here for the sake of berivity.
What is "berivity"?
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:37:44 -0500
Les Mikesell wrote:
>
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:brRi6.38966$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > >
> > > Sounds like you've sat through one too many windows pep
> > > rallies there bubba -
> >
> > No, really, what has changed dramatically in Unix in the
> > last 10 years?
>
> Only the things that were done badly in the first place. Remember
> that unix was developed as an elegant simplification of prior
> overly bloated systems. The system that has been and continues
> to change dramatically does so because it still hasn't gotten it
> right, and obviously hasn't learned anything from the past.
>
> > We still use telnet
>
> Or rsh, or ssh. Most pictures really aren't worth a thousand words
> but they take that much bandwidth.
>
> > We still use crappy old XWindows
>
> Yes, it works just fine.
>
> > Unix still has the brain-dead permission bits security.
> > Even though many Unix vendors have implemented DAC, many
> > people still insist on using permission bits.
>
> ACL's are only needed if you can't create a group to match the
> group you want...
>
> > Nothing's really changed.
>
> The same code continues to compile, machines continue to run for years
> at a time, the operators don't need a new certification every six months
> to understand it.
Such notions are heretical in Gates-cult land.
> What's the problem?
>
> Les Mikesell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:44:49 GMT
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:03:45 GMT, Tom Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <AuMi6.610$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik Funkenbusch"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I grudgingly use Visual SourceSafe, mostly because it's easier
>> to use, even if it frustrates me quite often.
> That particular program is the bane of our existance...If there were
> another integrated solution, we'd shell out whatever the asking price
> was to get it.
CVS is pretty well integrated, but with Emacs rather than VC++. There's
also a WinCVS, but it still seems kinda kludgey. I once saw something
about a VC++ plugin, but haven't heard anything since.
Have you looked at things like Perforce?
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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