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Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Roger Perkins")
Re: Communism ("Roger Perkins")
Re: Communism ("Roger Perkins")
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism ("Roger Perkins")
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From: "Roger Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:43:27 -0800
What!? Another idiot? "a whole lot more real fighting in the streets"??
Whatever...
Roger
AIRBORNE!
"Eric Pinnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On 30 Mar 2001 21:10:23 GMT, "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Actually, according to the U.S. Constitution and federal law, Aaron is
> >mostly correct.
> >
> >If you're a U.S. Citizen, but choose to make war against your own
> >country, or give aid and comfort to its very numerous enemies (foreign
> >or domestic), then you're guilty of treason, a capital crime.
>
> Logically then, Ted turned should be hung. He is after all, giving
> aid and comfort to an organization that has avowed to destroy the
> sovereignty of all nations.
>
> >Also, if you conspire to violate the Constitutionally guaranteed
> >rights of any U.S. Citizen under color of law, you're guilty of a
> >felony, which becomes a capital crime if loss of life results.
>
> That's 18 USC 241, 18 USC 242, and 18 USC335.
>
> >Regarding the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), membership in it was once
> >held to be illegal for this reason - not because you aren't entitled
> >to hold and express any opinions you wish, but because you are not
> >entitled to conspire to violate the rights of others.
> >
> >But right now the CPUSA, though obnoxious, is among the very least of
> >our problems. Both of the "mainstream" parties are much worse, since
> >they have much more power.
> >
> >Both major parties advocate and practice socialism (in varying
> >degrees), both have *knowingly* caused massive loss of life, liberty
> >and property, which they were supposed to protect, and both have
> >conspired, very successfully, to make this nation an oligarchy
> >masquerading as a democracy, rather than the Republic that by law it
> >must be.
>
> Moreoever, that have knowingly and illegaly exercised
> unconstitional powers, failed to get rid of income taxes due to the
> 16th Amedment's non-ratification.
>
> >Hence, there are a LOT of traitors in our midst. And given the threat
> >that they pose to the life, liberty and property of all people (both
> >inside the U.S. and elsewhere), I think it is not only reasonable, but
> >necessary, that the worst of them be dealt with as the law requires.
>
> But, they ARE the law. Tough to prosecute someone when they hold
> the reigns of power.
>
> >Aaron is not advocating that we round up everyone - just those who are
> >the most blatantly and obviously guilty. And, so long as these folks
> >get an *exceedingly* fair trial, and as long as their sentences are
> >somewhat commensurate with their crimes, I am in total agreement with
> >him.
> >
> >I don't want more bloodshed. I think there's been too much already
> >(the left's war on unborn children, the right's war on drugs, and
> >other kinds too numerous to list). But it is absolutely necessary
> >that the crimes against peaceful and law-abiding U.S. Citizens, not to
> >mention the nationals of many other countries who have been harmed by
> >actions of our so-called "government," be ended. Hopefully, by the
> >most peaceful means possible.
>
> You can't seen nothin yet. There's gonna be a whole lot more real
> fighting in the streets before things are returned to any kind of
> freedom at all/
>
>
> >I too took an oath to defend the United States, its lawful government,
> >its Constitution, its citizens, and its valid laws against all threats
> >whether domestic or foreign. So have millions of others. We are
> >greatly outnumbered by the traitors at the moment, but times and
> >political winds do change, and I remain hopeful that someday we will
> >be able to return to a legitimate, federal, Constitutional, republican
> >form of government.
> >
> >
> >Joe
>
> Keep your poweder dry.
>
>
>
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From: "Roger Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:46:57 -0800
Just a hint here, Max. aaron is very good at playing with words. For
example, he calls people communists AND nazis. He then gets his no doubt
very small balls in an uproar because communist and socialist are
interchangeable terms when discussing this topic. Child can't make up his
mind. Trash him like I did and it's alot easier to have an adult
conversation here.
Roger
AIRBORNE!
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 31 Mar 2001
> >Roger Perkins wrote:
> >>
> >> Again you illustrate both your stupidity and your ignorance. Ignoring
your
> >> childish use of caps, show me that law that makes democracy illegal? I
> >
> >Let's see...Roger swore to uphold and defend the Constitution from all
> >enemies, foreign and domestic...and even claims to teach at a college,
> >and the old fuckhead doesn't even know what the Constitution says.
> >
> >Care to cite ANY section or sections of the US Constitution which
> >supposedly establish the US as a "democracy" ???
> [...]
> >Note that there is NO provision for the people to directly vote on
> >anything. Therefore, the US Federal government is *NOT* a democracy.
>
> What about the one where we elect representatives? Since every citizen
> has a right to vote in these elections, the US Federal government is a
> democracy. A democratic republic, in fact.
>
> [...]
> >See above. Any STATE government which attempts to practice "Democracy"
> >will be struck down.
>
> In which state does a citizen not have a vote? Besides Florida, I mean.
>
> >Case in Point: Colorado recently passed a law regarding homosexual rights
> >by "popular referendum". It was struck down the US Supreme Court on
> >the basis of Article IV, Section 4--that the law was (supposedly) passed
> >using 'democratic' methods (which are illegal) instead of the
Constitutionally
> >mandated republican procedure of getting the law passed in the
LEGISLATURE.
> >
> >Any State or Federal "law" which is not passed by the legislature is,
> >in fact, not a law.
>
> Nor is any state or federal law which *IS* passed by the legislature,
> but then later, as in this case, struck down by the courts.
>
> And, yes, referendums are proof that the US is a democracy.
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: "Roger Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:48:09 -0800
Max, he has heard this advice before. He thinks communism and nazism are
the same. Just a kid so you can't be too hard on him.\
Just kidding, go ahead!
Roger
AIRBORNE!
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 31 Mar 2001
> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >>
> >> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Fri, 30 Mar 2001
> >> >Jarno Nurminen wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >> >> > Ah yes, anybody who doesn't support Communism is a "nazi"
> >> >>
> >> >> How would you feel if majority of US citizens would select communism
as
> >> >> their new ideology? If the answer is "kill them all" then one could
call
> >> >> you a nazi. Modern society, at least in here, in build on the
foundation
> >> >> of everyone having their own oppinion heard. If you someone doesen't
> >> >> like what their neighbour is thinking, it's fine, but judging people
> >> >> just because of what they think is something I would call nazism. Of
> >> >> course, this definiton of "nazism" is not so far away of the way
USSR
> >> >> worked...
> >> >
> >> >Your definition of nazism is extremely sloppy.
> >> >
> >> >Nazism is a brand of fascism. Fascism is a form of SOCIALISM.
> >> >(what part of National SOCIALIST Party do you not understand?).
> >>
> >> Fascism is an idealogy, neither economic system (socialism) nor
> >
> >Wrong. Fascism is a specific form of socialism, marked by
> >
> >a) vertical integration of major industries within the economy.
> >For a good representative example, look at Japan. Japan has had
> >a fascist economy since the 1920's.
>
> It is simply not possible to have a fascist economy; fascism has no
> bearing or applicability to an economic system. Get a dictionary, for
> crying out loud.
>
> >b) Government is run primarily for the benefit of industrial big-wigs.
> >In the United States, it is ironic that the majority of "favors"
> >done for "big business" (i.e. "corporate welfare") were passed
> >by....the DEMONCROOKS in Congress.
>
> Ironic, or simply incorrect?
>
> [...]
> >Do you have another word for taking from one group of people (the
> >productive), under the threat of imprisonment, violence, or even
> >death....for the benefit of others (the parasites)...
>
> "Civilization".
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:44:27 -0500
Scott Erb wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:> A distinction without a difference.
> >
> > Fascists kill the poor first.
> > Communists kill the rich first.
> >
> > In fascism, industry "owns" the government.
> > In Communism, the government "owns" industry.
>
> -snip-
>
> Too simplistic. Here is a bit about fascism:
Naturally a 4-line summary is going to be a simplification.
>
> Fascism:
>
> The basis of fascism is irrationality -- it starts based on conservative
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is true of ALL forms of socialism.
> principles taken to an extreme but becomes ANTI-CONSERVATIVE in that it
> tears down the system and creates a new one based on emotionalism and
> irrationality. It is also anti-communist and anti-liberal.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The only redeeming values it has.
>
> Conservatives: society is important, traditions of nation and culture.
> Fascists: STATE is important, embodies society.
> NATIONALISM: as protection of traditions of nation
> WAR/STRENGTH: Social Darwinism applied
>
> At base, fascism is a social darwinist form of ultra-conservative
> thought. BUT, calling it conservative is a disservice to real
> conservatives, just as Stalinism is not a form of Social Democracy.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Who, other than you, is claiming that Stalin was a "Social Democrat" ???
Actually social democrats tend to be closet-communists who lack
the balls to admit it.
> The extremes are always ugly it seams!!!
>
> Anti-liberal:
>
> Liberals: humans have the capacity for rational thought, to improve
> society.
Except for the current variety known as the "Liberal Democrat" in
American society. These self-proclaimed liberals maintain that the
average citizen is incapable of rational thought...therefore, a
myriad array of government bureacracies must be set up to do
his/her thinking for him/her.
>
> Fascists: improve is a relative term. It cannot be defined rationally.
> In fact, rational thought imprisions humans. It does not allow their
> spirit to flow, and does not allow them to be able to engage in heroic
> actions. Thus, fascists argue that masses should not be expected to act
> rationally and participate in politics in such a manner.
>
> Rather: people get pleasure and joy out of fulfilling their duty to the
> state. People should be given emotional releases, ways to feel
> self-worth and self-esteem as members of a functioning, well ordered
> society. Government: elite run, designed to satisfy the emotional needs
> of the populace.
>
> Needs: strength, competition, glory. If a human has these things, they
> are more fully alive and fully human. Thus: mass participation
> important for emotional support and nationalism, not in terms of
> interest intermediation. This is anti-intellectual, anti-rational. A
> strong reaction to the rational and ordered world of modernism. Appeal
> to the animal instincts in each person. Again: Irrationalism is at the
> heart of fascism. (Note that in conservatist thought the fact humans
> were animals meant an elite had to civilize them through law and order;
> for fascism, the elite gives them releases and uses that power in ways
> to benefit the state).
>
> In reality: because it is non-rational, fascism can have many different
> forms. Rather like a fantasy. Three forms in history that were overtly
> fascist, though other governments had fascist qualities (often called
> dictatorships, etc.)
>
> Fascism in essence peaked in the interwar period partially because of
> how crazy life had become. It was sort of a pinnacle of modernism, with
> the lack of certainty and truth taken to an extreme where truth equals
> power. Capitalism was failing, seemed chaotic, doesn't work. Communism
> was scary, eastern, opposed to traditions. It was a way to save the old
> traditions, the old focus on duty and state, and yet at the same time
> garner the power of nationalism.
>
> It shows the dark side of modernism. If the "bright side" is science,
> logic, and rationality, the dark side is irrationalism. Yet that
> irrationalism is a part of life; hence the allure of fascism.
>
> Also: picks on those who are down and out, losers in other words. Told
> they are part of a greater whole, something that gives them meaning.
> They are accepted and treated as special. This creates a bond.
> Neo-nazis in America its the same thing -- they prey on unemployed young
> men, take them in, do target practice, hikes, build comradery, and only
> slowly bring in the ideology. Its a bond. Appealling to people who are
> not able to deal with the challenge of individualism, and that strikes
> more often in societies with poverty, chaos, and uncertainty.
>
> Italy: Mussolini: built on anti-communism and anti-socialism to get
> support from wealthy, middle class. Took power in 1922. Blackshirts,
> beat up communists, marched on Rome, basically took over from a weak
> democracy.
>
> But Mussolini was more interested in power, not ideology. He had been a
> Communist revolutionary before, he drifted and developed fascism as an
> alternative form of concentration of power that the middle class could
> accept.
>
> Claim: democracy weak and falling apart. Some truth to that, Italians
> uncertain about democracy, economic turmoil. Fascism promised order and
> stability. Mussolini gave it to them...at a cost of freedom. Main form
> of interest intermediation: authoritarian corporatism, like we discussed
> last time.
>
> He borrowed from Napoleon: symbols of nation, glory, trying to make
> people feel good about themselves. Also established Fascist control
> which was effective and popular.
>
> Spain: Franco, called a Fascist, but in some ways he was more an
> arch-conservative. Believed in the church, traditional spanish values,
> fighting against modernism. Lasted until 1975, did not support Nazis in
> WWII.
>
> Germany: Nazism
>
> Most famous form of fascism, and shows what can happen.
>
> Fascism is inherently relativist, the state defines good and evil.
> Relativism isn't per se bad (not every relativist is a fascist!), but in
> this case it is a relativism with an absolutist twist -- since no one
> can know the truth, the state can determine the truth!
>
> Or: power is truth. If you have power you can determine the truth.
> That power = truth aspect of fascism is precisely what makes it so
> uniquely dangerous.
>
> Nietzsche said God is dead because he said the modernist belief in
> reason kills religion -- if all can be understood scientifically and
> through rationality rather than spiritualism, then there is no true
> morality, it is just meaningless. That ultimately means there is no
> grounding for our beliefs. Nietzsche doubted the liberal claim about
> rationality leading to truth, some truths are beyond rational thought,
> or it may be that life has only the meaning we give it. That could be
> liberating, but for Nietzsche it was a bit frightening: if life has the
> meaning we give it, we could give it ANY meaning, from virtuous and
> heroic to evil and murderous. In a sense, the conservative belief in
> the importance of religion and tradition implied an implicit recognition
> of this: get rid of God and claims of divine authority, and humans are
> free -- and freedom means potential chaos and anarchy. Liberals hoped
> reason could prevail, and maybe ultimately it will. But fascism shows
> how irrationality can also prevail, at least for a short time.
>
> Fascists: Nothing really matters but power. Whomever has power can
> determine truth. Morality defined by those in power, or in the case of
> fascists, usually the state.
>
> For the Nazis it was Social Darwinism in the extreme:
>
> Racist: Race is essentially not a "real" or "natural" concept. We have
> different hair color, traits, eye colors and you could divide people up
> many ways. But for the Nazis there were not only natural races, but to
> them this was the essential battleground for social darwinist conflict.
> The Aryan or German "race" (which was never clearly defined) was posited
> as a type of master race. Socialists, Jews, others were seen as
> fighting against the true Aryan spirit by working wtih inferior peoples,
> or weakening Germany. The true German was the Wagnerian hero, strong,
> powerful, makes his own rules, determines his own destiny. The rallying
> cry: Free the German spirit! This especially appealed to those
> unemployed, feeling impotent, and wanting some kind of meaning in their
> life.
You must be one of those over-educated morons who can't see that
which is freaking obvious to even a 4-year old child.
Indeed, race DOES exist. However, making one's legal standing
dependant upon one's race is outlandish.
Question: Why are sickle-cell anemia public service announcements
aimed only at blacks?
Conversely, why is Down's syndrome almost unheard of in black families?
Indeed, race DOES exist.
By the way...in light of the fact that one's legal standing before
the law should NOT be dependant upon one's race....what does that
make of Affirmative Action programs and other public policy
where race is the primary, or even ONLY consideration for
one's standing in relationship to these laws?
Jest askin'.
>
> Even today, neo-nazi groups try to appeal to young males who are poor,
> unemployed or alienated. They start not by spouting racist ideology,
> but instead making them feel welcome, part of a group, building
> solidarity with other young men. They play war games, build muscles,
> learn that they are a special group, stronger, smarter, and better
> trained than the average person. They are the rightful rulers, and it
> is only the enemy -- the Jew, the Banker, the Socialist, the Government,
> whomever -- that keeps them from their rightful role. But the ideology
> is only sprung on them slowly. The key is to make them feel solidarity
> with the group and thus be willing to learn the ideology. Fascism in
> essence is a way for people to boost their self-esteem, and often
> appeals the the dregs of society.
>
> Scape-goating: You tell the out of work youth that the only reason he's
> down and out is because the Jewish bankers or Socialist intellectuals
> are not letting him use his strength to do what he was meant to do: make
> Deutschland the most powerful country in the world. You tell poor youth
> that they are really the true masters, and to achieve their right place,
> they should throw off the current leaders and make it possible to build
> a new Germany.
Scape-goating...you mean line blaming all of society's ill's on
"dead white men", followed closely behind by "living white men"
>
> Still, the Nazis also worked traditional conservatives: Kinder, Kirche,
> Küche. It was a very masculine order; women's place was as mothers to
> keep society growing and functioning properly. WAR was seen as
> essential. Germans need Lebensraum, should not grow soft. Whoever does
> not conquer will be conquered.
>
> RESULT: Fascism worked well at first, like Italy. People ignored most
> irrational parts, and spending and arms build up gave economy a boost.
> Hitler also had foreign policy success.
The same can be said for Communism.
They're an improvement over anarchy...but then again, so is
everything else (including dictatorship).
>
> All of this was fake, it could not last -- government was borrowing, and
> not investing in real goods. The nazis needed conquest to continue, and
> this led to war (something Hitler was planning all along -- we'll see
> that when we discuss German politics). The ideology of racism led to
> the holocaust. Result: Germany totally defeated, and the horror of
> fascism and where it can lead was made clear. Not all fascists want a
> holocaust or a world war, but the ideology can easily lead that way.
I notice how you spend a lot of time pointing out the flaws in
right-wing socialism, but only one sentance devoted to the
problems of left-wing socialism.
Why is that?
(Keep in mind that I hate *ALL* kinds of socialism equally).
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Roger Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:49:11 -0800
You've never been, have you?
Roger
AIRBORNE!
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Roger Perkins wrote:
> >
> > Ahh, now I haven't ever heard that before! Spoken like a true leg.
> >
> > Roger
> > AIRBORNE!
> >
>
> The drill instructor really loved to joke and intimidate. The whole
> purpose of basic training then was to make sure you could take it. I'd
> feel sorry for any current soldiers that would ever get into a major
> ground war and not be toughened up. I hear that its bad enough to get
> captured but worse staying in that situation. If they aren't toughened
> up how are they going to survive or even escape??
>
>
> > "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Roger Perkins wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > aaron, aaron, aaron, your ass must be frostbitten hanging out the
way
> > it
> > > > > does. How does someone as stupid as you survive in the modern
world.
> > Now,
> > > > > I know that's now where you mind is, but still! You don't know
> > history, you
> > > > > don't know politics, you certainly don't know the military but you
> > insist on
> > > > > shooting your mouth off.
> > > >
> > > > False premise,
> > > >
> > > > Ah yes, Roger's favorite method of debate..
> > > >
> > > > Proof by ... assertion.
> > > >
> > > > Check out the local university and see if the philosophy department
has
> > > > a course on logic and epistomology.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger
> > > > > AIRBORNE!
> > > >
> > > > What happened....cutoff the oxygen to your brain for too long from
> > > > getting your head caught in the shroud lines....
> > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > While in Basic training in the Army, the drill instructor said if you
> > > want to be an AirBorne Ranger that's up to you... then said "But two
> > > things fall out of the sky: Bird shit and Fools!"
> > >
> > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > Ian Davey wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >He's gonna use nukes against an invasion force on his own
> > beaches,
> > > > > > > >so that the fallout can blow all over the island, making the
> > entire
> > > > > > > >place uninhabitable....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You're obviously misunderstanding how Nuclear weapons are used
for
> > > > > defence.
> > > > > > > See the Cold War for instance. It's a case of "hit me and I'll
> > launch my
> > > > > > > Nuclear arsenals at your cities". I can't believe you thought
he
> > meant
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > above... not even Castro would have been that stupid.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Yeah...right...you're a loony you are.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Remember...several MILLION Americans took an oath to defend
the
> > > > > Constitution
> > > > > > > >from all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >So...when we line you up against the wall....don't forget
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I TOLD YOU SO.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What, is America a dictatorship now. When did that happen? Or
are
> > do you
> > > > > > > see the US turning into a dictatorship in the future?
> > Interesting...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No...but the penalty for treason still includes death by firing
> > squad.
> > > > > > And if it's wartime, drawing-and-quartering is ALSO a valid
penalty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ian.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > \ /
> > > > > > > (@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark
literature)
> > > > > > > /(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/
> > (art)
> > > > > > > | |
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > > The wise man is mocked by fools.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > > > ICQ # 3056642
> > > >
> > > > K: Truth in advertising:
> > > > Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> > > > Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> > > > Special Interest Sierra Club,
> > > > Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> > > > Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> > > > The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> > > > Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> > > >
> > > > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > > > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle
(Enielle),
> > > > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> > > >
> > > > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > > > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > > > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > > > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> > > >
> > > > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > > > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > > > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > > > you are lazy, stupid people"
> > > >
> > > > G: Knackos...you're a retard.
> > > >
> > > > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues
against
> > > > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> > > >
> > > > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > > > her behavior improves.
> > > >
> > > > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > > > ...despite (C) above.
> > > >
> > > > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> > > >
> > > > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > > > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > > > direction that she doesn't like.
> > > >
> > > > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
> > >
> > > --
> > > V
>
> --
> V
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