Hmmm - so was 'find' pronounced 'foind' then? and 'mind' as 'moind'? Perhaps the picture is not as straightforward and clear cut as this? MH
On Friday, 7 June 2019, 14:31:35 BST, jslute <jsl...@verizon.net> wrote: Dear Martyn and All, According to the Crystals, "wind" would be pronounced something like "woind" or "woynd." Ben Crystal helped with one of my theater group productions a couple of years ago. Jim Stimson Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: 6/7/19 3:30 AM (GMT-05:00) To: howard posner <howardpos...@ca.rr.com>, LuteNet list <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>, Ed Durbrow <edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Renaissance rhyme I suppose the question is not so much which words rhymed, but which with which. For example was 'wind' rhymed with the modern pronunciation of 'find/mind' - or did 'mind/find' rhyme with the modern 'wind' ? An early spelling of 'winde' and 'kinde' might suggest the former - but do we/you know? MH On Friday, 7 June 2019, 03:10:03 BST, Ed Durbrow <edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote: On Jun 7, 2019, at 9:10 AM, howard posner <[1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > >> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:56 PM, Ed Durbrow <[2]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote: >> >> wanted to know which word changes so that winde and kinde rhyme. > > If you're asking which word is pronounced as in modern English (in what accent? Australia? Mississippi?) the answer may be neither. No I'm not asking that. > For what it's worth, in Shakespeare's sonnets: > > Wind (in the sense of air blowing) rhymes with find and mind. That is the information I was looking for. Thank you Howard. Campion was a contemporary of Shakespeare, so good enough. Still wondering if there is an online resource to find such information. To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 2. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --