Yes, this is a fairly common view - but I what's the reasoning and evidence for it? MH
On Friday, 7 June 2019, 16:18:42 BST, Helen Atkinson <hjatkinso...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes - from what I've learnt from Richard Rastall and others, it's 'keu-ind' and "weu-ind" ... a bit as they'd say it in the west country. Helen On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 14:35, jslute <[1]jsl...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote: Dear Martyn and All, According to the Crystals, "wind" would be pronounced something like "woind" or "woynd." Ben Crystal helped with one of my theater group productions a couple of years ago. Jim Stimson Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Martyn Hodgson <[2]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: 6/7/19 3:30 AM (GMT-05:00) To: howard posner <[3]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>, LuteNet list <[4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>, Ed Durbrow <[5]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Renaissance rhyme I suppose the question is not so much which words rhymed, but which with which. For example was 'wind' rhymed with the modern pronunciation of 'find/mind' - or did 'mind/find' rhyme with the modern 'wind' ? An early spelling of 'winde' and 'kinde' might suggest the former - but do we/you know? MH On Friday, 7 June 2019, 03:10:03 BST, Ed Durbrow <[6]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote: On Jun 7, 2019, at 9:10 AM, howard posner <[1][7]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > >> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:56 PM, Ed Durbrow <[2][8]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote: >> >> wanted to know which word changes so that winde and kinde rhyme. > > If you're asking which word is pronounced as in modern English (in what accent? Australia? Mississippi?) the answer may be neither. No I'm not asking that. > For what it's worth, in Shakespeare's sonnets: > > Wind (in the sense of air blowing) rhymes with find and mind. That is the information I was looking for. Thank you Howard. Campion was a contemporary of Shakespeare, so good enough. Still wondering if there is an online resource to find such information. To get on or off this list see list information at [3][9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[10]howardpos...@ca.rr.com 2. mailto:[11]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 3. [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:jsl...@cs.dartmouth.edu 2. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 6. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 7. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 8. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 10. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 11. mailto:edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html