On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:48:13PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > On 06/14/2017 02:08 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 09:30:03PM +0000, Guenter Milde wrote: > >> On 2017-06-09, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > >> > >>> [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: --] > >>> On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 07:41:21AM +0000, Guenter Milde wrote: > >>>> I don't have a preference regarding the two alternative patches for > >>>> stable. > >>> And what is the status of this discussion for 2.3.0? Did we come to an > >>> agreement on what should be done? > >> Unfortunately, there is no agreement. > > OK. So we are stuck. I want to come to a decision before beta1. I'm not > > sure what to suggest. I get the feeling that we've had enough discussion > > and further discussion will not lead to a unanimous agreement. In this > > case, I suppose we need to take a vote. Can I get a +1 from someone else > > that thinks a vote would be a good idea in this situation? > > Yes, that's the way we have proceeded in the past when there were such > disagreements. > > > (if indeed I get a +1 on the above) to proceed with a vote, anyone who > > would like to make a proposal would need to write a self-contained > > description of the problem and their proposed solution. A critique of > > other available solutions is encouraged as well, so that we get a > > feeling of the advantages/disadvantages of each proposed solution. I > > emphasize self-contained because the discussion has been spread out and > > we want people to participate in the vote who have not followed the > > discussion so far. In addition to the essence of the proposal being > > self-contained, you are welcome to make references to previous > > discussion if you want to give the reader the option of reading a > > particular issue more in detail. But don't waste time on this until we > > get a +1 to proceed with a vote. > > + a lot. We defintely need a summary of what the issue is.
Günter, are you planning to make a proposal so that we can vote? I'm sorry to ask you to do this when you have already spent a lot of time on the topic, but I am hoping that this round will be the last one and that we can vote and come to a conclusion, and that we can decide this before 2.3.0beta1. Thanks for all of your time on this topic. I regret not taking the time to fully understand all of the discussion before (I was secretly hoping unanimous agreement would be achieved), but I look forward to spending time to understand the advantages/disadvantages of your self-contained proposal. Scott
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