Hi Penny,
I suspect you are right in your conclusion that number of records for each id 
matters in this case.
My solution to your problem would be to add columns for IIV to your dataset 
outside of NONMEM.
Quite  easily done in R.

Use the rmvnorm R function to simulate your etas, 600 rows times as many etas 
you have

require(mvtnorm)
sigma<-diag(c(1,2,3)) ## example 3 etas , without block, variances 1,2 and 3
Etas<-rmvnorm(600,sigma=sigma)
colnames(Etas)<-paste("ETAr",1:ncol(Etas),sep="")

Then load your NONMEM datafile as is now with dosing and observational records,

d0<-read.table(.....)

Match each of the rows in Etas to ID in your data

Etas2<-Etas[as.numeric(factor(d0$ID)),]

and then append the simulated etas

d1<-cbind(d0,Etas2)

and then finaly save the d1 R data.frame as a text file using write.table.


In your nonmem code you the just replace eta(1) with ETAR1, and so on.

BW

Magnus Åstrand
Principal Clinical Pharmacometrician, Ph.D.
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From: owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] On 
Behalf Of Zhu, Penny
Sent: den 9 mars 2017 19:19
To: nmusers@globomaxnm.com
Subject: [NMusers] question about random seed for simulation

Dear All
I have finished a multiple dose simulation for 600 subjects and want to perform 
a single dose simulation (different sampling time) on the same subjects (same 
ETA as the first simulation).  I used the same seed for the simulation step, it 
turned out the first subject was the same and the rest of the subjects are not 
and I am not sure whether this was due to the fact that the two simulation has 
different number TIME records.  If so, I wonder what is the proper way to set 
the simulation seed so that the ETAs for the second simulation will be 
identical to the first one.

I know that I could output the individual parameter estimate from the first 
simulation and import them into the second one.  But I was thinking if the 
random seed can be synchronized between the two simulation, it could be an 
easier solution.

Your help is very much appreciated!

Thank you very much and best regards!

Penny (Peijuan) Zhu, Ph.D.
Associate Director Clinical Pharmacology

Cell: 862-926-9079

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