UPDATE still is a transaction, some data gets sent, some gets received. So there is definitely a charge, but it is probably miniscule.
Steven Nagy Readify | Senior Developer M: +61 404 044 513 | E: steven.n...@readify.net | B: azure.snagy.name -----Original Message----- From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of ross Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 3:16 PM To: ozAzure Subject: Re: Azure in Australia I'm on / watching this list, so that makes 4 at least. Does SQL Azure incur compute charges? eg. If I run an update statement that doesn't transfer any data, will I incur any charges? It is pure speculation, but perhaps full text search would be expensive for Microsoft to host and therefore expensive for the consumer? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Greg Willis <gwil...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Great to see some lively discussion starting up here. If I can see evidence > there is more than 3 of us on this list I'll definitely ask a few more folk > from the Windows Azure and SQL Azure product teams to sign-up for good > measure :-) > > I think it's fair to say that SQL Azure is still optimized for some > scenarios (web, smaller application and ISV workloads) over others right > now. I think it's also fair to say they are adding in functionality at a > decent rate (50GB size instances coming, spatial etc). There is still also > a lot I'd like to see added in to open up more scenarios. > > I have certainly worked with few product teams that could claim to be more > feedback focused and driven than the Windows Azure and SQL Azure teams - so > please use this site (and lists like this one) and let them know what you > think is lacking: http://www.mygreatsqlazureidea.com > > Darren - 235 of your closest friends have currently voted for full-text > search support. > > The product planning guys in the teams look straight to these sites as one > key pulse of what people want to see next / the most. > > There is also the same for Windows Azure: > http://mygreatwindowsazureidea.com (and "Dalllas', Windows Azure platform > AppFabric etc) > > Cheers, > Greg Willis > > ________________________________ > From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com [ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] on > behalf of Darren Neimke [darren.nei...@live.com] > Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 3:26 PM > To: ozazure@lists.codify.com > Subject: RE: Azure in Australia > > My "beefs"... personally, there are parts of the product that I would like > to see improved at a rate that is faster than the current rate. Service > Management (inc. monitoring and reporting) is an example of such an area. > There should be a recognition that the current maturity level of the product > "is what it is" and that as such, as a consumer of such a service you can, > from time to time, experience frustrations in using such a service: > http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlazure/archive/2010/03/22/9982979.aspx > I understand that, to mature such a product requires an effort in terms of > not only software and systems development, but also importantly in > marketing, documentation, and support services as well. And to raise the > maturity level from where it currently sits will take some time. > It is some of these issues - and through concentrated use of the service and > its features - that I have experienced some dissatisfaction. > Our mileage may vary! :-) > > > Kind Regards, > > Darren Neimke > darren.nei...@live.com > http://2010wave.blogspot.com > > > > ________________________________ > From: steven.n...@readify.net > To: ozazure@lists.codify.com > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:14:50 -0700 > Subject: RE: Azure in Australia > > I totally agree! I’m just asking.. what are your beefs? > > One of mine is that SQL Azure is not so much designed for scale out where > the other services are. > > Its almost like SQL Azure is after a completely different market of > consumer, which might be true. > > > > Steven Nagy > Readify | Senior Developer > > M: +61 404 044 513 | E: steven.n...@readify.net | B: azure.snagy.name > > > > From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com > [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Darren Neimke > Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 2:03 PM > To: ozazure@lists.codify.com > Subject: RE: Azure in Australia > > > >>> Greg, do you think we can get some involvement from them here? > > More engagement is always a good thing - especially within AU. > > > > And in re-reading your opening couple of sentences there Steve (heck... I > thought you were a blue badge for a second there mate! :)) let's keep an > open mind about the quality of the system that we are experiencing. Let's > not be afraid to make critical assessments as to the state of play. And > let's all play together for the betterment of the product. > > > > It's in nobody's interest - especially a product evangelist's - for us to be > shills and simply pretend that everything is fine. > > > > At the end of the day I'd ask myself this... how much of my own money (mine > or my businesses) am I likely to put on the table for Azure. And what needs > to improve before that amount might be increased. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Darren Neimke > darren.nei...@live.com > http://2010wave.blogspot.com > > > ________________________________ > > From: steven.n...@readify.net > To: ozazure@lists.codify.com > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:40:21 -0700 > Subject: RE: Azure in Australia > > Hi Darren, > > > > There are many ways in which to supply feedback to the team. Currently you > can ‘request features’ and the team also has had online open chat sessions > before. I’ve found these sessions to be very telling because a lot of cloud > enthusiasts have really pushed hard on certain issues. I’m not sure if > anyone from the development teams are actually on this list (like Jim, > Steve, etc) but would be nice if they were. Greg, do you think we can get > some involvement from them here? > > > > And Darren, what exactly is your perception of how things have gone? I’d > like to see how it aligns with my own, given I haven’t been to a PDC or MIX > and my only contact mechanism with the team is through social media. > > > > Cheers, > > Steven Nagy > Readify | Senior Developer > > M: +61 404 044 513 | E: steven.n...@readify.net | B: azure.snagy.name > > > > From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com > [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Darren Neimke > Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 1:36 PM > To: ozazure@lists.codify.com > Subject: RE: Azure in Australia > > > > In all seriousness though Greg, I think that some more transparency about > some of this stuff could have helped, and not hindered the perception of how > certain things have gone by people such as myself. At the end of the day, > is there discussion about these things within the realm of the social media > - yes; but is that *the* appropriate medium for communicating to your target > audience about the state of the product... probably not. > > > > And on the topic of help, if there are genuine areas in which you guys need > any help or feedback *and* you are prepared to deal with the feedback in a > transparent and honest manner... then I'm always available. As I always > say... my supply of opinions is nearly limitless! > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > Darren Neimke > darren.nei...@live.com > http://2010wave.blogspot.com > > ________________________________ > > From: darren.nei...@live.com > To: ozazure@lists.codify.com > Subject: RE: Azure in Australia > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:56:10 -0700 > > Oh I don't want to actually *do* any work... I just want to express my right > to complain about the work of others :-) > > Kind Regards, > > Darren Neimke > darren.nei...@live.com > http://2010wave.blogspot.com > > > >> From: gwil...@microsoft.com >> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com >> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia >> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:20:30 +0000 >> >> Full-text search is not currently supported in SQL Azure. It is planned in >> future releases. >> One of the first places to watch for confirm of new functionality in the >> SQL Azure releases is the team blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/ssds/ >> >> They are also recruiting Darren so you can go and help them finish the job >> ☺ >> >> Cheers, >> >> Greg Willis >> Email: gwil...@microsoft.com >> >> From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com >> [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Darren Neimke >> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 10:58 AM >> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com >> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia >> >> Thanks Greg, it's good to see that you guys are taking the time to present >> the information in a more understandable format. It would have been nice if >> you'd finished building it before you started charging for it though. >> >> Also, if I click on the Products tab I get some nice marketing information >> about each product, but it's not easy to see what specific features I am or >> am not getting. If I look at the SQL Azure product sheet it's not clear as >> to what functionality is included. For example is Full Text Search included >> yet - the Wikipedia page talks about search being included but it wasn't >> there when I last used the product back in December. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Darren Neimke >> darren.nei...@live.com >> http://2010wave.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> > From: gwil...@microsoft.com >> > To: ozazure@lists.codify.com >> > Subject: Azure in Australia >> > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:39:32 +0000 >> > >> > As we’re apparently lacking Azure content for this list (☺) you might be >> > interested to know Azure will be available for Australia just after Easter. >> > You can see all of the ways you can get access after release here: >> > http://www.windowsazure.com/offers and local AUD pricing. >> > >> > Greg Willis >> > Windows Azure Evangelism Lead, Microsoft Australia >> > Email: gwil...@microsoft.com Twitter: @gwillis >> > Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/gwillis >> > LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/gwillis >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ozazure mailing list >> > ozazure@lists.codify.com >> > http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure >> >> ________________________________________ >> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. 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