I have no idea. Believe it's listed on the description page as one of its destinctive features though.

At 07:04 PM 5/7/2017, you wrote:
Ah the compas would come in verry handy. Just so as 1 knows which way is waht. The caluclator too. I use the 1 in my PTR1 here and there. But what is a calcugraph?



On 5/7/2017 1:31 PM, Kenny wrote:
Let me ask you a question about this Evo E10 Daisy Digital Recorder/Player:

Does it offer integrated functionality to search OOTunes and Wikipedia?

Does it allow you to save any audio stream you do like as Favorites for quick access?

Does it allow you to access your NFB and Bookshare content from within the player?

Does it allow you to use the beautiful Samantha TTS voice?

I mean having a compass, calculator and calcugraph sounds great for someone in school, but how many casual users would ever use these features?

Just want to know more about this EVO E10 from someone who owns it.

Do love the fact it comes with 8 GB of internal memory though.

At 01:39 PM 5/5/2017, you wrote:
Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I
agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream
wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I
think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I
have enough players with more in a package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot
now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but
they really do great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most
things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the
most features of all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms,
voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2)
The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces
or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice
thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it
louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15
minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and
compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for
copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and
uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds
to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a
large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You
can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of
different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8
> hours, now.  I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue.
>
> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
>>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my
>>opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its
>>good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
>>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly
>>degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The
>>Iphone of course, is also excellent for
>>listening to BARD books, but with so many other
>>apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data,
>>plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer
>>to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.
>>
>>The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack
>>horses, when you take into consideration that
>>when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
>>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.
>>
>>Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS
>>players could solve the battery-life issue plus
>>add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could
>>add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM
>>radio, for now it uses the wire of the
>>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans,
>> etc.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Humberto
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Pc-audio
>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
>>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
>>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS
>>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though.
>>What with the app being on my phone.
>>
>>
>>On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> > Hello Hamit:
>> >
>> > Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent,
>> except as I said, that it does not have
>> Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first
>> generation.  I do not use the Milestone for
>> recording except for emergencies, I have an
>> Olympus DS-50 for that and I normally do not
>> record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.
>> >
>> > The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with
>> a grill in front, rather large for the size of
>> the hardware, that plays excellent sound,
>> albeit mono; to hear stereo you must use
>> headphones, but either way the sound is
>> remarkable for such a small player.  It also has FM radio.
>> >
>> > I normally use the NLS player to listen to
>> BARD books at home, but when travelling or
>> otherwise away from home, use mostly my
>> Milestone, I prefer it due to size and clarity of sound.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Humberto
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Pc-audio
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
>> > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> >
>> > Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the
>> > MileStone
>> > cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming
>> > from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420
>> > died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't
>> > hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of
>> > the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the
>> > day
>> > sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really >> > wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and
>> > services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no
>> > more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you
>> > send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo
>> > mikes
>> > with it? Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> >> I am amazed that during this long discussion
>> nobody has mentioned the Milestone, that Swiss
>> machine with great speaker sound that also
>> plays NLS books and is much smaller than the
>> VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi?
>> >>
>> >> Humberto
>> >>
>> >> Humberto Rodriguez
>> >> Fort White, Florida
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Pc-audio
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
>> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> >>
>> >> Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players
>> >> with
>> >> radios and recorders to in this price range,
>> but unless you have some vision
>> >> to read the menus they won't do you much
>> good. They have a small speaker and
>> >> a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary
>> >> input.
>> >>
>> >> The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not
>> >> as
>> >> good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If
>> >> you
>> >> don't have sight you pay handsomely for the
>> ability to have accessibility to
>> >> outmoded technology for a small niche market.
>> >>
>> >> If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be
>> >> buying
>> >> the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Hamit Campos
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
>> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> >>
>> >> What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
>> >>> Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking
>> >>> books
>> >>> with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an
>> >>> MP3
>> >>> player recorder for around $40.00 that has
>> a better sounding speaker in it
>> >>> and records MP3 and wave files much better,
>> but the caveat is that you are
>> >>> paying for accessible menus with the stream.
>> >>>
>> >>> The Hims may be a better all around unit,
>> but it costs twice as much money
>> >>> as the stream.
>> >>>
>> >>> Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard
>> >>> books
>> >>> even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Skarstad
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
>> >>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> >>>
>> >>> I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys >> >>> high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
>> >>> sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the
>> >>> player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days
>> >>> and
>> >>> report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
>> >>> that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
>> >>> other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
>> >>> buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online
>> >>> services
>> >>> like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on
>> >>> the
>> >>> stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting
>> >>> a
>> >>> particular job like that done.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> >>>> Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The
>> >>>> Plextalk
>> >>>> Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> >>>>> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to
>> >>>>> understand
>> >>>>> that later firmware updates had fixed this.
>> >>>>> Too late to try that here now <smile>.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or >> >>>>>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable
>> >>>>>> all-purpose player/recorder.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>       Regards
>> >>>>>> Tim
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan
>> >>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I didn’t try the line-in recording functiotion though I did note
>> >>>>>> that -
>> >>>>>> using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ
>> >>>>>> so
>> >>>>>> surely this should be reasonable.
>> >>>>>> So if one really wanted to do high
>> quality recordings one could use the
>> >>>>>> line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of
>> >>>>>>> high
>> >>>>>>> broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket
>> >>>>>>> range.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Jamie
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf
>> >>>>>>> Of
>> >>>>>>> Dane Trethowan
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
>> >>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Yep, convenient may be but the unit
>> does have its limitations as we’ve
e
>> >>>>>>> discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity
>> being a very serious limitation
>> >>>>>>> and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi -
>> one wouldn’t really want to try
y
>> >>>>>>> and download a good quality audio stream.
>> >>>>>>> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
>> >>>>>>> Another interesting point and its not critical just an
>> >>>>>>> observation, I
>> >>>>>>> wonder why Human ware didn’t include
e
>> the ability to be able to browse
>> >>>>>>> NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files?
>> >>>>>>> Just
>> >>>>>>> about every other device I know of
>> these days - that can play Internet
>> >>>>>>> radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it
>> >>>>>>> would
>> >>>>>>> be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream.
>> >>>>>>> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR
R
>> Stream update though hHumanware
>> >>>>>>> take my advice, don’t make the update tootoo big or it will take
>> >>>>>>> until
>> >>>>>>> Christmas for the VR Stream users to download <smile>.
>> >>>>>>> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy
>> >>>>>>> about
>> >>>>>>> that.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I love my Victor Stream.
>> >>>>>>>> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and
>> >>>>>>>> locate
>> >>>>>>>> internet radio stations.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf
>> >>>>>>>> Of
>> >>>>>>>> Hamit Campos
>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
>> >>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people
>> >>>>>>>> either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> I'll be purchasing one of these very
>> soon, so will be able to report
>> >>>>>>>>> on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with
>> >>>>>>>>> Verizon
>> >>>>>>>>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
>> >>>>>>>>> player won't be an issue if the
>> download speeds on the player are as
>> >>>>>>>>> slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked
>> >>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>> is just now coming up, as the new
>> generation stream has been out for
>> >>>>>>>>> some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner,
>> >>>>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>>>> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at
>> >>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly
>> let you guys know my experiences.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> As to slow downloading of data, I
>> have noticed with ours, and those
>> >>>>>>>>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi
>> >>>>>>>>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it
>> >>>>>>>>>> usually
>> >>>>>>>>>> says
>> >>>>>>>>>> that reception is poor.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that
>> >>>>>>>>>> little package.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Evan
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>> >>>>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment
>> >>>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>>>> my purchase.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it
>> >>>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>> most respects.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however
>> >>>>>>>>>> -
>> >>>>>>>>>> having already heard a VR Stream - I
>> was already prepared for this,
>> >>>>>>>>>> a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use
>> >>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>> small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for
>> >>>>>>>>>> years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't
>> >>>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>>> Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I
>> >>>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly
>> >>>>>>>>>> slow
>> >>>>>>>>>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the
>> >>>>>>>>>> "Check
>> >>>>>>>>>> for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is
>> >>>>>>>>>> up
>> >>>>>>>>>> to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR
>> >>>>>>>>>> Stream
>> >>>>>>>>>> box and a lot of this - such as the
>> Internet Radio, podcasts and so
>> >>>>>>>>>> forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better
>> >>>>>>>>>> solutions
>> >>>>>>>>>> for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream
>> >>>>>>>>>> provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio
>> >>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>> Podcasting.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so
>> >>>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>>> downlaoded a couple of books.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use
>> >>>>>>>>>> myself
>> >>>>>>>>>> but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that
>> >>>>>>>>>> even
>> >>>>>>>>>> though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the
>> >>>>>>>>>> web
>> >>>>>>>>>> site its good to know I have a reliable backup.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ---
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>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> **********
>> >>>>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame
>> of mind will leave the rest of
>> >>>>>>> the halfwits in this world behind.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> **********
>> >>>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest
>> >>>>>> of
>> >>>>>> the halfwits in this world behind.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Tim Noonan
>> >>>>>> Consultant  Speaker  Coach
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Phone:   +61 419 779 669
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>                  John
>
>
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