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I would say that his theory of representation has to be capable of articulating that distinction or there is something wrong with it, but I don't think that it is to be looked for merely in the distinction between the dyadic and the triadic but rather in something to do with the different functions being performed by icons, indices, and symbols, and that the distancing or detachment you are concerned with is to be understood especially in connection with the understanding of the symbol as involving an "imputed" quality. What this says is, I think, that we do not interpret a symbol as a symbol unless we are aware both that the replica we are interpreting is one thing and that what it means is something other than that, namely, the entity we imagine in virtue of its occurrence. Explicating that will in turn involve appeal to the functioning of a quality functioning as an icon of something the replica indexes.

 

Dear Joe,

Thanks for the thoughtful and suggestive reply.  I'm looking forward to thinking about it during the coming week.  In the meantime here are some initial impressions just by way of saying thanks  --  One, I very much like the idea of expanding the issue to include the icon.  I think you are right that the phenomenon of observation (for the lack of a better word) is one of representation and  involves all three categories.   And yes as well to the suggestion of looking at the notion of imputation.  I take "imputation" as another word for representation. To impute is to represent the sign for what it is  -- the functional mode of being.  Pretending, playing, taking an "as if" stance and the like  -- all examples of the process of representation or seeing the world triadicly.  I'm not looking to introduce something new.  It's more like housekeeping  -- trying to tidy up some notions, put all the same color socks together and separate the things to do list from the things themselves.

Also hope to pick up Black Elk's contemplative book from Amazon.  Watching the news these days one hungers for just such an account.  Current world events are upsetting enough in their own right, but it's the hectoring account of them that is truly driving me crazy.  Cherry picking the facts and premises to fit a preconceived conclusion  -- on both sides of the political spectrum. 

More later after I've had more time to digest your post and the comments for Martin and Arnold. 

Thanks again,

Jim Piat

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