Hi Régis, It seems the "end of life" refers to the Mailman 2, and there's no desire to migrate to Mailman3, which in my view is a pity as the archives[1] at least look like a nice piece of work.
I'm currently considering migrating a small list from mailman2 to mailman3 and wonder if you would mind explaining a little further those "not conclusive" tests. Can you advise when it's proposed to close the qgis-user list? And what will happen to the archives which to my mind represent the collective work of many contributors and a valuable piece of knowledge? Thanks Tony On Thursday 4 April 2024 6:27:24 PM ACDT Régis Haubourg via QGIS-User wrote: > Hi Tony, > > we know about mailman3 rewrite. from the tests of SAC and other > projects, it was not conclusive. > > About keeping both system, this is the best way to fragment a bit more > our community, which already is dispersed through too many channels. > This is the problem we want to fix here. This is a hard requirement in > this move, ie stay DRY. > > Gnome, Mozilla and Ubuntu are all fighting against the same issue. We > try to clarify which should be the official channels, and still want to > offer communication means that are really used. From my perspective, I > use Discourse mainly by mail, and have the additionnal possibility of > using the web UI to write markdown , add images and color syntaxed code. > I woud not see the benefit of having to "also" keep monitoring other > mailing lists. > > > Cheers > > On 04/04/2024 01:07, Tony Bazeley via QGIS-User wrote: > > I'm not against new communication channels, but imagine the maximum > > > benefit would be obtained by adding a discourse channel while > keeping > the mailing list channel, and perhaps reviewing use after a > period of > time. > > And just BTW, Mailman has just completed an > upgrade to a major new > version so I'd be interested to learn the basis > of claims for "end of > life" > > On Thursday 4 April 2024 8:53:47 AM > ACDT Greg Troxel via QGIS-User > wrote: >> What I meant mostly is two > things: >> >> People like me tend not to be happy about things turning > into >> forums and are likely to participate less. As an example, >> > openstreetmap moved from mailinglists to forums and I have not, so >> I > interract far far less and spend more time on other things. I am >> > probably somewhat unusual (started doing email in the 70s), and >> here > probably only strk thinks I"m normal :-) >> >> My perception, perhaps > off base, is that discourse facilitates >> people showing up, posting a > question, and getting replies to the >> question, without also getting > delivered to them everything else >> on the "mailing list". Thus I > expect a lot more help desk type >> interactions, where new people ask a > question and don't really >> engage, rather than joining the community. > Many projects have >> communities of long-term participants who get to > know each other. >> Partly from on-list, but partly from off-list > converstations which >> are enabled by getting emails with the other > person's email >> address. I don't see this happening in a discourse > world. I'm not >> arguing there are no mechanisms and that people could > not make it >> happen. I am saying that I expect it to happen much less > in >> practice. >> >> I don't have any good ideas about the first > pointl. >> >> The second point could be addressed by allowing web > signup, but >> allowing posting only if one has email delivery of all > messages, >> and having the From: address be the person, and not > breaking DKIM >> signatures. In short, having the email interface be a > first-class >> non-broken mailinglist, while also having a forum view. > > >> >> (I've dropped psc because it doesn't allow non-members to send.) > >> > >> _______________________________________________ QGIS-User mailing >> > > list QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org List info: >> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: >> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > > > > _______________________________________________ QGIS-User mailing > list > QGIS-User@lists.osgeo.org List info: > > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -------- [1] https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-us...@mailman3.org/latest? count=50&page=1
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