Sebastian!

If some decency exists, remove the response below from the list. I have
never before seen attitudes like this in the open source project I have
been involved with.

Kent

On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 13:02 +0200, Jens Lautenbacher wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 21:08 +0100, Kent Olsson wrote: 
> > Hej!
> > 
> > > Beside javascript there are other technologies for RIA.
> > 
> > There are about 30 different libraries out there.
> > 
> > > Have you ever done a comparision?
> > 
> > We did a comparison internally, but no one was better than Qooxdoo for
> > the purpose of real web application development (RIA). It has a better
> > design and is faster than most of them. Most of the ideas are close to
> > how Java has been designed. In some cases it is better designed. One
> > negative thing is that Sebastian has opened up the software, but not as
> > much as it deserves. It slows development too much. It must be changed
> > in some or the other way, else dedicated and brave developers will
> > choose other libraries to support and contribute.
> 
> Kent,
> 
> your constant whining really starts to annoy the hell out of me.
> Especially when you take every possible opportunity to tell rubbish
> about the way "Sebastian handles the project". 
> 
> The problem is not that it's simply wrong what you are telling, but that
> other observers may get some distorted view of reality. Have you ever
> heard something about the little thing called "netiquette"? 
> 
> To make things clear: This project is released under the LGPL, and every
> capable developer is invited to contribute. But this doesn't mean that
> we simply stop thinking about what people put into the code base. The
> quality of the code and the way it fits with the overall design plan
> counts. Making contributions is a little bit more than telling people
> what doesn't work and at best coming forward with half-baked patches -
> and in any case reiterating the plain wrong over and over again doesn't
> help either.
> 
> The project is also not "run by Sebastian alone". It's just that he is
> the one who is currently the most visible guy on the mailing list. This
> doesn't mean that others don't work hard, too.
> 
> For all the stuff that has been done, we know that there is still much
> to do - but hey - this is OSS. People CAN make a difference by writing
> code and engage in technical discussions, they can (and some already do)
> help in the documentation aspect of the project. And we will have a wiki
> "Real Soon Now(TM)" so this step will be even easier.
> 
> But we really have no time to cure the personality problems of self
> acclaimed project leaders who think they speak for the whole community.
> 
> There have been valuable contributions so far, and there is a lot more
> to come. Especially the work of Til and Andreas J. will prove to be
> extremely important. But - unexpected as it may be for you - these
> contributions came from people who are more concerned with writing
> software than hanging around and behaving like a little child.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>       jtl
> 
> 
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