Hi, I've often tried that but when I point people to the show case the biggest problem is that if you compare the L&F with the one from the competitors (ext, smartclient, ...) qooxdoo can't compete - we can argue a long way that the code quality and the design of qooxdoo is better but you'll won't get people to buy into qooxdoo with giving them a default state of the art visual design.
What qooxdoo needs are 2 new designs: * a very flashy one (the one from Norbert is going into the right direction) * one a bit more conservative one than the above to catch up with competitors Tom Am 10.09.10 10:46, schrieb Daniel Wagner: > Here's one thing that could help a lot: If you come across an > interesting blog post or discussion where other frameworks are > mentioned, leave a comment suggesting people check out qooxdoo. Just > don't be too "evangelical" about it, let people discover qooxdoo's > strengths on their own. > > > Regards, > Daniel > > Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog schrieb: >> Hi Stefan, >> >> I would not be able to summarize as well as you did. >> This is the 100% exact copy of what I think :-) >> >> Thanks. >> >> Now, why not consider the second stage : what can we do all as a community ? >> Any idea ? >> >> On 10 sept. 2010, at 09:38, Stefan Andersson wrote: >> >>> Hej! >>> >>> I agree on your interest and I can assure that qooxdoo is the best for >>> many settings. Maybe not satisfies all tastes, but I have not found >>> anything more complete out there. I am sure that the core team will be >>> adding functionality as browsers change. You have to be aware of it is >>> a slow process to upgrade all browsers out there and therefore the >>> work with new implementations must have some degree of backward >>> compatibility. >>> >>> Fortunately, qooxdoo is definitively one of the, if not the most, >>> advanced javascript framework in the market. The design is really good >>> and in some parts based on excellent new ideas. Javascript is not an >>> easy language to build a framework on! Lots of tricks to get it >>> going...mostly due to a rain forest of wild browsers living their own >>> lives. >>> >>> Unfortunately, qooxdoo is more or less a garage project from a >>> marketing perspective. Very few know of it in the world. The website >>> is in its functionality average, but its design is already old. Almost >>> no money and too little time is spent on marketing of this fantastic >>> tool. Until that will be done, it will still be in the garage >>> division. Unfortunately development goes fast and the competitors >>> don't wait. Especially not the commercial alternatives. One scenario >>> could be an alliance with one of the big market players. We have not >>> seen this happen so far. If nothing drastic happens, it will still be >>> a small alternative, but maybe still technically the best. >>> >>> Even though this insecurity due to the market and fame, we chose >>> qooxdoo because the code has been fairly well documented, the >>> structure is robust and it is technically the best. It still has a lot >>> of things to improve, but already now it is the best. We have >>> developed about 1,200,000 lines of "qooxdoo" code and converted a >>> system which soon will "fly"... We are satisfied about it. The support >>> is fast and mostly accurate. The core team is mostly very skilled in >>> its answers. But we would never choose qooxdoo for such a big project >>> without knowing we have our own resources if qooxdoo dies or if the >>> qooxdoo team disappears in some or the other way. Too big investment >>> and too big risk, if we wouldn't have the resources by ourselves. >>> >>> I hope the above clarifies one of many views from the community. >>> >>> Stefan >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Automate Storage Tiering Simply >>> Optimize IT performance and efficiency through flexible, powerful, >>> automated storage tiering capabilities. 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