Here's one thing that could help a lot: If you come across an 
interesting blog post or discussion where other frameworks are 
mentioned, leave a comment suggesting people check out qooxdoo. Just 
don't be too "evangelical" about it, let people discover qooxdoo's 
strengths on their own.


Regards,
Daniel

Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog schrieb:
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> I would not be able to summarize as well as you did.
> This is the 100% exact copy of what I think :-)
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Now, why not consider the second stage : what can we do all as a community ?
> Any idea ?
> 
> On 10 sept. 2010, at 09:38, Stefan Andersson wrote:
> 
>> Hej!
>>
>> I agree on your interest and I can assure that qooxdoo is the best for 
>> many settings. Maybe not satisfies all tastes, but I have not found 
>> anything more complete out there. I am sure that the core team will be 
>> adding functionality as browsers change. You have to be aware of it is 
>> a slow process to upgrade all browsers out there and therefore the 
>> work with new implementations must have some degree of backward 
>> compatibility.
>>
>> Fortunately, qooxdoo is definitively one of the, if not the most, 
>> advanced javascript framework in the market. The design is really good 
>> and in some parts based on excellent new ideas. Javascript is not an 
>> easy language to build a framework on! Lots of tricks to get it 
>> going...mostly due to a rain forest of wild browsers living their own 
>> lives.
>>
>> Unfortunately, qooxdoo is more or less a garage project from a 
>> marketing perspective. Very few know of it in the world. The website 
>> is in its functionality average, but its design is already old. Almost 
>> no money and too little time is spent on marketing of this fantastic 
>> tool. Until that will be done, it will still be in the garage 
>> division. Unfortunately development goes fast and the competitors 
>> don't wait. Especially not the commercial alternatives. One scenario 
>> could be an alliance with one of the big market players. We have not 
>> seen this happen so far. If nothing drastic happens, it will still be 
>> a small alternative, but maybe still technically the best.
>>
>> Even though this insecurity due to the market and fame, we chose 
>> qooxdoo because the code has been fairly well documented, the 
>> structure is robust and it is technically the best. It still has a lot 
>> of things to improve, but already now it is the best. We have 
>> developed about 1,200,000 lines of "qooxdoo" code and converted a 
>> system which soon will "fly"... We are satisfied about it. The support 
>> is fast and mostly accurate. The core team is mostly very skilled in 
>> its answers. But we would never choose qooxdoo for such a big project 
>> without knowing we have our own resources if qooxdoo dies or if the 
>> qooxdoo team disappears in some or the other way. Too big investment 
>> and too big risk, if we wouldn't have the resources by ourselves.
>>
>> I hope the above clarifies one of many views from the community.
>>
>> Stefan
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