Hi Stefan,

I would not be able to summarize as well as you did.
This is the 100% exact copy of what I think :-)

Thanks.

Now, why not consider the second stage : what can we do all as a community ?
Any idea ?

On 10 sept. 2010, at 09:38, Stefan Andersson wrote:

> Hej!
> 
> I agree on your interest and I can assure that qooxdoo is the best for many 
> settings. Maybe not satisfies all tastes, but I have not found anything more 
> complete out there. I am sure that the core team will be adding functionality 
> as browsers change. You have to be aware of it is a slow process to upgrade 
> all browsers out there and therefore the work with new implementations must 
> have some degree of backward compatibility.
> 
> Fortunately, qooxdoo is definitively one of the, if not the most, advanced 
> javascript framework in the market. The design is really good and in some 
> parts based on excellent new ideas. Javascript is not an easy language to 
> build a framework on! Lots of tricks to get it going...mostly due to a rain 
> forest of wild browsers living their own lives.
> 
> Unfortunately, qooxdoo is more or less a garage project from a marketing 
> perspective. Very few know of it in the world. The website is in its 
> functionality average, but its design is already old. Almost no money and too 
> little time is spent on marketing of this fantastic tool. Until that will be 
> done, it will still be in the garage division. Unfortunately development goes 
> fast and the competitors don't wait. Especially not the commercial 
> alternatives. One scenario could be an alliance with one of the big market 
> players. We have not seen this happen so far. If nothing drastic happens, it 
> will still be a small alternative, but maybe still technically the best.
> 
> Even though this insecurity due to the market and fame, we chose qooxdoo 
> because the code has been fairly well documented, the structure is robust and 
> it is technically the best. It still has a lot of things to improve, but 
> already now it is the best. We have developed about 1,200,000 lines of 
> "qooxdoo" code and converted a system which soon will "fly"... We are 
> satisfied about it. The support is fast and mostly accurate. The core team is 
> mostly very skilled in its answers. But we would never choose qooxdoo for 
> such a big project without knowing we have our own resources if qooxdoo dies 
> or if the qooxdoo team disappears in some or the other way. Too big 
> investment and too big risk, if we wouldn't have the resources by ourselves.
> 
> I hope the above clarifies one of many views from the community.
> 
> Stefan
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