Hej Andreas!

>> We have developed about 1,200,000 lines of "qooxdoo" code and
>> converted a system which soon will "fly"... We are satisfied about
>> it. 

>Wow, this is really impressive! Are you sure you really talk about
>"1,200,000 lines of code"? Even if that includes comments, this would
>make it by far the largest qooxdoo application at least I know of.

Including comments. It is a "simple" bread and butter application, converted 
from Java GUI.

>The JS framework of qooxdoo has about 300,000 NCLOC (non-comment) in
>total. A large-scale app like GMX.com is also about that size in
>addition to the framework classes. 

If you say so.

>I guess everyone would really interested in getting to know more about
>this huge qooxdoo project of yours. You repeatedly talk on the mailing
>list about "openness", being more transparent and so on. Unfortunately
>nobody (at least not me) knows either about your company or your
>project. :-( Why wouldn't you want to share it with the qooxdoo
>community??

Certainly, but it is not an open source project. This passing of yours is 
repelling and I would 
appreciate more diplomacy.

Our development is not a question for the community and will never be. We have 
in qooxdoo found
an excellent base for the web gui and that's it.

>> The support is fast and mostly accurate. The core team is mostly very
>> skilled in its answers. But we would never choose qooxdoo for such a
>> big project without knowing we have our own resources if qooxdoo dies
>> or if the qooxdoo team disappears in some or the other way. Too big
>> investment and too big risk, if we wouldn't have the resources by
>> ourselves.

>Sounds like you got many development resources behind your qooxdoo
>project. That is great, and an excellent opportunity for you to
>contribute back to the project. Have you ever thought of adding regular
>contributions to qooxdoo-contrib? It's a pretty straightforward process,
>you certainly have seen the recent contributions, so it also shouldn't
>be hard for your team. If you need any help with qooxdoo-contrib,
>http://contrib.qooxdoo.org, please let me know.

21 people 100% of time.

We have chosen to contribute by asking questions, correcting bugs, adding ideas 
and getting things 
cleared out by the core team.

If we will get more involved future will tell.

Yes, we have a few things we could share with the community as contributions, 
but until it is clear 
how the policies of openness is we will wait for the right moment.

Bye for now Andreas,

Stefan


Bye,

Andreas

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Andreas Ecker
Project Lead
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