On 30/11/2014, 9:56 AM, Fábio Magalhães wrote: > My bad, r-help messages indeed have the unsubscribe header set. Also, > at least for Gmail a "Precedence: bulk" should be set in order to this > mechanism to work, as Henrik pointed out. > > Currently the raw headers set precedence to "list". I don't know the > technical differences of list and bulk, so maybe switching from one to > the other can impose some tradeoffs.
It would break everyone's filters that currently work, to help Gmail's filters that don't work. Seems like a pretty bad tradeoff to me. Why don't you complain to Google about Gmail? Duncan Murdoch > > So I see three possibilities: leave as it is now, switch precedence to > "bulk" if it doesn't interfere on list behavior and have at least a > small unsubscribe button on some email clients or add an unsubscribe > link to footer. > > #! Fábio > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Ranjan Maitra > <maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com> wrote: >> I agree with this sentiment and suggestion. I can not see much of a downside >> to it, with the exception that most of these "unsophisticated" users will >> probably not even bother reading it. But then we would all be back in the >> current situation, not worse. >> >> Ranjan >> >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 21:58:23 -0500 listserve <tomuxi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Any mailing list which respects its recipients makes unsubscribing as >>> easy as possible. If users are having trouble doing so, it's clearly not >>> easy enough. >>> >>> I think putting a directly link in every message is certainly the right >>> thing to do. >>> >>> On 11/29/2014 09:14 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: >>>> On 30/11/14 14:16, John Sorkin wrote: >>>>> I don't see a link that is labeled "unsubscribe". >>>> >>>> <SNIP> >>>> >>>>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:35 PM, Jeff Newmiller <jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> In what way would that be unlike the link that is already there? >>>> >>>> <SNIP> >>>> >>>>>> On November 29, 2014 4:09:29 PM PST, John Sorkin >>>>> <jsor...@grecc.umaryland.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>> Requests like this appear from time to time. Would it make sense to >>>>>>> add a link to the bottom of the email messages generated by the mail >>>>>>> program that is labeled and goes directly to the unsubscribe page? >>>> >>>> Well, there is no "unsubscribe" page as such. The link given, i.e. >>>> >>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>>> >>>> takes you to the primary help page. That provides a link to a (password >>>> protected) page where you can handle all matters pertaining to your >>>> r-help subscription, including unsubscribing. >>>> >>>> I suppose that it might be possible to provide a link taking one >>>> directly to this second page, but: >>>> >>>> (1) It would add clutter (I'm sure we don't want to delete the link to >>>> the primary help page). >>>> >>>> (2) The password protection might get complicated; I don't know about >>>> such matters. >>>> >>>> (3) I don't think we want to waste time and resources helping people who >>>> are too stupid and illiterate to find their way to the unsubscribe >>>> facility on the basis of what is already provided. They shouldn't be >>>> R users in the first place. One needs at least two grey cells to rub >>>> together to deal with R. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Rolf Turner >>>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on >> receipt. Please respond to the mailing list if appropriate. For those >> needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate >> addresses. >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
