The context of this quote is important.  For the project Karen Coyle was 
working on, and with respect to the particular way data was being ingested, 
stored, and ultimately discovered and used by the public, enabling alphabetical 
sorting proved more cumbersome than it was worth.  An interesting, no doubt 
provocative anecdote; but I do not see it as a blanket statement on the overall 
value of alphabetical indexing to users in every system and every discovery 
environment.

Alphabetical indexing remains, I believe, the best way of showing users what a 
library does (and just as importantly) does not "have" (or license as the case 
may be).  It may very well be that this function is not particularly useful for 
applications like Open Library which are closer in purpose, IMO, to universal 
bibliographies than true library catalogs.  (This should not be taken as a dig 
at Open Library, which I support, but simply as a characterization of its 
function compared to most online catalogs.)  For what it's worth our "A to Z 
index" of online journals is one of the most popular features we offer our 
users, because it allows them to see, quickly and easily, what resources are 
available to them through our library.

It is true that indexing is a technique that originates in a previous 
generation of technology, and it certainly no longer has the universal 
attraction it used to.  We now have more effective ways of performing some of 
the objectives of the catalog.  However, I find rumors of its death -- proudly 
proclaimed or fearfully whispered -- to be somewhat exaggerated.


Benjamin Abrahamse
Head, Serials Cataloging Section
Cataloging and Metadata Services
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137


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Bernhard Eversberg wrote:
<snip>
Karen Coyle said in that meeting:
"... the team tried to figure out when alphabetical sorting was really
required, and the answer turned out to be 'never'."

Does that mean alphabetical index displays of names, titles, subjects
etc. can safely be considered dead? We've long suspicioned that
non-librarians neither want them nor understand them in the first place.
Decisions to abolish them should, however, not be based on suspicion
but evidence. Do we have it? Is that team's conclusion evidence?
If so, to the dustheap with non-sort markers and indicators!
</snip>

This would demand some research. I would say that LCSH, i.e. subject heading 
strings, lose most of their coherence when they are not browsed alphabetically 
(and even then they are difficult). With personal names, I would think that 
people would find it very helpful to arrange all of the Robert Johnsons by 
surname instead of by first name (Bob, Rob, Robbie, etc.), but I think we could 
learn a lot from Wikipedia on this. I just cannot agree that surname-forename 
"Johnson, Robert" is so foreign for people's understanding. I think 
alphabetical arrangement is highly useful for finding sub-bodies of corporate 
bodies. (Of course, all of this assumes cross-references)

As far as book titles go, my research has shown that alphabetical arrangement 
is rather recent. In several card catalogs, there were no title added entry 
cards made, only for title main entry. And in earlier times, in manuscript 
catalogs, I often found that even title main entry was not used. If there was 
no clear author, these items got placed into the section "Anonymous, 
Pseudonymous, etc. Works" by order of acquisition(!!!!!). That was really bad. 

Browsing by title may not be that important today with keyword retrieval since 
people should be able to sort in other ways. I believe that is the only place 
for non-filing indicators (other than series titles), but I may be wrong?

James Weinheimer  j.weinhei...@aur.edu
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