I think you have a good point. If the instruction were worded, "2.11.1 Basic 
instructions on recording copyright *statements*" it would make perfect sense 
to include the © just like we include "by" in a statement of responsibility.  
But it's worded "... copyright dates" which implies that that data element 
should exclusively be a date.

As to whether this makes it less "machine actionable" I cannot say, though I 
would point out for whatever it's worth that the "Dublin Core library metadata 
action profile" lists copyright as a refinement of the element, "date", which 
would suggest for DC at least (which, whatever else it is, is closer to 
"machine actionable data" than our MARC records) the © symbol is not considered 
part of the data.  (See: 
http://dublincore.org/documents/library-application-profile/index.shtml#DateCopyrighted)


Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Beth Guay
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I'm hung up on the RDA instruction for  recording a copyright date as a symbol 
or  spelled out element conjoined to a text string otherwise known as a date. 
It seems to me, that here we have an excellent effort to carry our data from 
MARC to linked data format through use of a newly defined 264 field, and rather 
than entering data (the date) into the area (264 second indicator 4 $c) that 
contains data  defined as copyright date, we enter a symbol plus a date, or a 
spelled out word plus a date. What we are transcribing is not a date but a 
symbol plus a date. Is it a string or a thing?
http://metadataregistry.org/schemaprop/show/id/5.html 

Is  ©2002 machine actionable? 

Shouldn't it be up to the content display system to supply the symbol or 
spelled out element -- © or copyright or ℗ or phonogram? Have there been any 
successful efforts that anyone is aware of which is a system that serves up 
labeled data elements from a complex combination of elements in the leader 008 
field byte 06 DtSt,  byte 07-10 Date 1 and byte 11-14 Date 2?   

Beth

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Beth Guay
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 2:58 PM
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Patricia Folger wrote:
"The former coding in OCLC looks like "overkill" --  How 
useful/necessary/correct is it to code this dtst to other than s & have 
duplicate dates in the 008 date area?"

I'm not sure I understand the problem here. Publication dates and copyright 
dates are not the same, even if they share the same year.  They are discreet 
data elements. That is why 264_1 $c and 264_4 $c were created in the first 
place, to better distinguish the dates and make them more machine-actionable.

Warm regards,

Karen Snow, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Graduate School of Library & Information Science Dominican University
7900 West Division Street
River Forest, IL  60305
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