When you are entering both a publication date and a copyright day in either
260 or two 264 fields, and you are coding the publication date in Date1 and
the copyright date in the 008 Date2, Date Type must be 't' because:
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008a.html
"t - Publication date and copyright date

Date of publication/release/production/execution is present in 008/07-10 and
a copyright notice date or phonogram copyright notice date is present in
008/11-14."

In other words, if the date in Date 2 is a copyright date, then Date Type is
coded 't' to *say* that the date in Date2 is a copyright date.

Deborah

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Deborah Fritz
TMQ, Inc.
debo...@marcofquality.com
www.marcofquality.com

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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of MCCUTCHEON, SEVIM
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To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA dtst t + a 260/264 muse on training question

I think perhaps despite the discussion, a question remains on coding in
OCLC: If you're using 264s, and the date of publication and the date of
copyright are the same, which is the proper code in the Date Type, s or t?

Sevim McCutcheon
Catalog Librarian, Asst. Prof.
Kent State University Libraries
330-672-1703
lmccu...@kent.edu


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USAF AETC AUL/LTSC
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:12 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] RDA dtst t + a 260/264 muse on training question

I'll apologize in advance for the length of this. 

I'm trying to work up some RDA training for my copy cataloging staff and am
working through a number of DLC RDA records that we are downloading.   

For the past year, we've had RDA records routed to our Non-DLC cataloger as
we wait for RDA to "settle".   Given that the numbers of RDA records are
increasing & we're rapidly approaching April, I need to get some basic local
guidelines set & move these back to our LC copy catalogers.  I'm having
particular issues with aspects of the publication area. 

My current question:  I'm repeatedly seeing in the 008 dtst "t" used to
indicate a publication and copyright date.

While it is technically correct that both dates are given in this record, in
the past we've mainly seen and used "t" in the dtst field when those dates
differ, even by a year.  What I'm seeing now is this sort of transcription
(an "older" record still using 260):
260 Stanford, California : |b Stanford University Press, |c [2012], ©2012.

Trying to make sense out of this coding I viewed this record in LC's catalog
& they have used 008 dtst s with:
264 _1 |a Stanford, California : |b Stanford University Press, |c [2012] 

[title in question is Competitive strategies for the 21st century : theory,
history, and practice] 
OCLC770694281
LC 2011052146

The 008 dtst coding of the record in LC's database (as opposed to the record
we downloaded from OCLC which apparently has been edited separately) looks
"more" correct to me.  

The former coding in OCLC looks like "overkill" --  How
useful/necessary/correct is it to code this dtst to other than s & have
duplicate dates in the 008 date area?

This raises the larger question: for those working up training for your copy
catalogers, at what point do you tell your people to leave copy as is, even
if that isn't what you would personally prefer?   

To the average library user, both transcriptions give essentially the same
information.  
At this point, given the variety of 260/264 interpretations/transcriptions,
I'm seriously debating telling my copy catalogers "If the 008/260 in the LC
copy record adequately conveys the book in hand & is essentially correct,
leave it." 

While I appreciate cataloger discretion when I am creating a record or
editing existing copy, I'm finding it exceedingly difficult to create these
local copycat editing guidelines for the plethora of interpretations we're
seeing.

Impatiently waiting for RDA postings from ALA Midwinter to be posted.  

//SIGNED//
Patricia Fogler
Chief, Cataloging Section  (AUL/LTSC)
Muir S. Fairchild Research Information Center 
DSN 493-2135   Comm (334) 953-2135  

  

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