If we use the MARC relator code list, do we need to add a subfield 2 to tell what thesaurus that we used?
Richard Baumgarten Cataloger Johnson County Library P.O. Box 2901 Shawnee Mission, Kansas 66201-1301 (913) 495-2454 baumgart...@jocolibrary.org From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:46 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relationships and comic books/graphic novels Would that mean we'd have to start calling the inker, "rubricator"? --Ben Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging Coordinator Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries 617-253-7137 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Patrick Crowley Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 10:33 AM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca<mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relationships and comic books/graphic novels Perhaps you could construe the colorist as an illuminator? ;) On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Kadri, Carolyn J <ka...@uta.edu<mailto:ka...@uta.edu>> wrote: I find that the MARC relator terms and codes lists much more robust and explanatory than those listed in the RDA appendices at this point in time. Even though I check the RDA appendices, I usually wind up using terms/codes form the MARC relators lists. And of course, the RDA appendices don't have relator codes anyway. I suspect that over time, the RDA appendices for relator terms will become more robust and cover more options to choose from-but they are just not there yet. Is anyone else out there putting both terms and codes in your original records that you are contributing to WorldCat? I have been doing so, but only because the OCLC rda workform comes down with the subfields $e and $4 in them. Also, I know that I have seen a discussion in the past about why the $e does not display when attached to 110's and 710's but I can't remember exactly why. I am wondering if it is just because my local Voyager system is not configured to display them in the public mode because it is not "turned on" or what? I know I have seen OCLC original records with $e's in those fields, most notably those records coming from the GPO where their 110's have $e issuing body in most of what I have seen, and sometimes $e editor in a 710. I would appreciate hearing from those of you that have opinions and suggestions about this issue. Thanks. Carolyn Kadri Special Collections Cataloger University of Texas at Arlington Arlington, TX 76019 817-272-7153<tel:817-272-7153> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 1:01 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relationships and comic books/graphic novels In my RDA cataloging of graphic novels and comic books I've been using "illustrator" for some of these (penciller, inker, cover artist) but I use "calligrapher" for letterers and "colorist" for colorists. Remember RDA 18.5.1.3 says "record one or more appropriate terms from the list in Appendix I" but "if none of the terms listed in appendix I is appropriate or sufficiently specific, use a term designating the nature of the relationship as concisely as possible." So RDA would be fine with you using "inker" or "penciller" (etc.) if in your opinion "illustrator" is not sufficiently specific. I prefer to use terms from controlled lists, so I start with RDA Appendix I but if the term I need is not there I go to the MARC relator list at http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relaterm.html or the RBMS relationship designators list at http://www.rbms.info/committees/bibliographic_standards/controlled_vocabularies/relators/alphabetical_list.htm. "Calligrapher" and "colorist" come from the MARC relator list. Bob Robert L. Maxwell Head, Special Collections and Formats Catalog Dept. 6728 Harold B. Lee Library Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 (801)422-5568<tel:%28801%29422-5568> "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:11 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: [RDA-L] Relationships and comic books/graphic novels Does anyone happen to know if there is work being done to expand the RDA relationship vocabulary to account for specific roles associated with the illustration of comic books and graphic novels? Under the current RDA relators, it would seem the following roles (which are considered discrete enough to warrant separate mention on the statements of responsibility of comic books and graphic novels) all fit under the category of "illustrator": artist inker colorist (or, color artist) letterer Also, I've noticed that often "cover artist" gets separate mention, though I think they would still be considered an illustrator. --Ben Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging Coordinator Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries 617-253-7137<tel:617-253-7137> -- Patrick Crowley Cataloging Assistant Rare Books and Special Collections Bryn Mawr College
