I wonder if your govco has enough left after dubya has had his way to even 
commission a study for repair let alone an actual fix ?
 Digital either works or it don't , we all know that so why do some find it so 
hard to understand ?

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: glaen...@verizon.net
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:02:32 -0600
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna  design




















    
            



Hey, I checked and found the problem
 
Here, the value of a '1' is really 
0.9985
 
and '0' = 0.0015
 
Digital' is not true digital at all, but the 
creators of the system said 'Close enough, those rubes in the flatlands of IL 
will never notice!'
 
Let's get 'da gubmint' involved in fixing this, I'm 
sure it can be corrected for only $ 150,000,000,000 or 
so...............
 
Gary
 
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Barry 
  To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:57 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat 
  OT - an interesting antenna design
  

  
  Maybe your digital is less versatile than our here in Au ?
 I live 
  a long way from the tx site and experience little degredation with my nice 
  shiny new set top box and antenna .
 Or maybe your analogue setup 
  simply doesn't work well on the wrong frequencies ?


  

  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: 
  glaen...@verizon.net
Date: 
  Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:51:04 -0600
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT 
  - an interesting antenna design


  
  
  

  but............But...........BUT...................
   
  I thought The Almighty and Everlasting Digital 
  Signal (Praise Be To Its Bits Eternally, Ignore That Pixellating Behind 
  The Curtain ! ) was going to cure all the supposed ills of that nasty old 
  NTSC demon 
   
  Can it be that ONCE AGAIN, we were fed a crap 
  sandwich by the NATVB and the FCC ?
   
  PLEASE..tell me it ain't so !
   
  Pessimist About All Things Digital,
  Gary in IL
   
   
   
   
  
    ----- 
    Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Chuck 
    Kelsey 
    To: 
    Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
    
    Sent: 
    Friday, February 20, 2009 6:42 AM
    Subject: 
    Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design
    

    This is going to be a bigger problem than many stations 
    may have 
anticipated. A friend of mine has an all-channel antenna on a 
    rotor and can 
get 20 analog stations. He purchased a converter to see 
    what he could get in 
digital. He can only get four, and three of those 
    pixilate quite badly. 
Almost everything has gone to UHF here. My area is 
    in the fringe of two 
markets. UHF doesn't work as well in the hills. I 
    doubt translators will be 
implemented -- too much 
    money.

Chuck

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <n...@no6b.com>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 
    Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
    Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

> At 2/19/2009 18:08, 
    you wrote:
>>Along these same lines....
>>
>>Has 
    anyone on this list built / put into practice a Gray-Hoverman 
    panel
>>antenna? How do they perform? Is it worth building one? 
    Double or single?
>>http://www.casano.com/projects/hoverman/index.html
>>
>>I'm 
    about 70 miles from my target DTV market. (Pittsburgh, PA) NOBODY 
    here
>>can seem to get the Pittsburgh ABC affiliate with their 
    current V/U 
>>antenna
>>setups. (WTAE4) I have some 
    people that I am helping get their converter
>>boxes hooked up and 
    working. They are VERY disappointed that they won't be
>>able get 
    their news from channel 4 once DTV has gone into full effect. 
    
>>(They
>>DO have one of the areas BEST news teams - in 
    my opinion.)
>
> The center of the map says it all IMO: A4 - 
    D51. Would be nice if they
> backfilled ch. 4 after the cutover, but I 
    think the channel #s on the map
> indicate the final 
    assignment.
>
>>I'm wondering if a dedicated UHF panel and 
    good UHF only preamp will help
>>the situation.
>
> I 
    think all you can do is go for max. gain @ ch. 51 & hope the 
    problem
> isn't multipath; if it is you're SOL unless you go WAY up in 
    the air with
> the antenna. Stacked Yagis might get the job done @ ch. 
    51, but then 
> you'd
> need another antenna for the other 
    channels. Don't know if a parabolic
> would be broadband enough - 
    depends on the type of feed & if the aperture
> (diameter) is 
    large enough to work reasonably at the lowest DTV channel.
>
> 
    Bob NO6B
>
>
>
> 
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>
>
>
> 
    Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>




    
    


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