But the point is, the book's author specifically crafted a teacher who wasn't 
light skinned. i hear you about the times, but even in thh "old days", there 
were darker skinned people who made a difference and deserve to be showcased. 



This really is about Daniels' prejudices, which will show up no matter the time 
period or reason one has for justifying them. For example, I'm convinced a lot 
of Brothers so quickly supported Halle Berry's career not just because she's 
not dark, but because they knew she was half white, and the thought of that was 
alluring. It's the same reason so many go nuts over the Kim Kardassian or 
Jennifer Lopez: they get some aspects of a Sister's traits (the butt in both 
cases), but get the mental titillation of it being a non-black woman.  A few 
years ago I was talking to a large group of Brothers at my job about some women 
they were dating, and a club they frequented. Half a dozen guys, and the 
conversation started focusing on how many half-Asian, half Black women there 
were at this club. The response from all was as if they'd discoverd the 
Treasure of the Sierra Madre. I was bothered by the understood thought that the 
woman being half Asian made her more desirable than a woman who was "just" 
black. 



But still and all, as you say, I liked the movie a great deal. I too thought 
the editing was a bit rough, especially in the first twenty minutes. But it 
settled down and became a powerful film. I actually like that even the 
director's prejudices have become a topic of discussion, as, like the story the 
movie tells, it's something that needs to be addressed. And I agree it's just 
what indie films needed. 



Speaking of powerful indie films, ever seen "Sankofa"? If not, make it a goal 
to find it and do so. Wonderful movie. 




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From: "Daryle Lockhart" <dar...@darylelockhart.com> 
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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:12:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Skin Color Prejudice in "Precious" Casting? 

  





Sadly, his casting of lighter actors works because of the time the film is set 
in. I remember New York in the 80s very well. We don't like to discuss this, 
but we were a pretty color struck society then. The popular actors and singers 
at the time were light. It's one of the reasons Spike Lee's School Daze 
worked.  


I have problems with the film but they are technical. I didn't like the way it 
was edited, for example.  


Also, some of the symbolism was a little heavy handed. But overall this movie's 
success is what indie film needed. 



Daryle Lockhart 

On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:41 AM, "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > wrote: 





  


I'm bothered that the director didn't change his or her perception of fat 
people until he made the film. He's no spring chicken. 

I think that the light skinned vs dark skinned thing is still going on but it 
is a lot more subtle. Hollywood still prefers the light skinned blacks as the 
good guy character. 


On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net > 
wrote: 









"I'm prejudiced against people who are darker than me...When I was young, I 
went to a church where the lighter-skinned you were, the closer you sat to the 
altar".  --Lee Daniels, director of "Precious". 



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I will drop a review of "Precious" in the next couple of days. Short answer: I 
loved the film, though it's difficult to watch at times ( i will say, due to 
all the hype, it's not as bad as I'd expected, since I was prepared for a lot 
more graphic abuse depicted).  One thing that does bother me about the film, 
now that I've heard it mentioned, is that the good people in it are all 
light-skinned. Indeed, Paula Patton, Lenny Kravitz, and Mariah Carey are all 
biracial. The "bad" people are all dark skinned.  



It's interesting that director Lee Daniels admits he's had some issues on the 
color  line, as noted in the article below. Interesting discussion on skin 
colour, that's unfortunately still relevant today, and interesting that in a 
film meant to explore the issues we all have, some of the creative work behind 
it reveals some of the same problems. 



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http://racerelation 
s.about.com/b/2009/11/08/what-precious-means-for-race-relations.htm 
What "Precious" Means for Race Relations 

Sunday November 8, 2009 


The film " Precious " premiered in select cities Nov. 6, and reviews are 
pouring in about the movie with a Harlem teen whose life transforms through 
education. To say that the circumstances of Precious Jones' life are bleak 
would be an understatement. Precious is illiterate, living with HIV and has 
been victimized by her parents in numerous ways, including sexually. Her father 
has twice impregnated her, and one child she's borne by him suffers from Down 
syndrome . 



"Precious" tackles an array of issues. Because the protagonist is black, 
however, both the media and the public have raised questions about its effect 
on race relations. I've summed up two major questions about the film below: 



Why do white audiences eat up black films and novels that depict dysfunction, 
poverty and abuse? 

Why are the villains in "Precious" dark-skinned and the heroes light-skinned? 



"Precious" is based on the novel Push by Sapphire. Both the film and the book 
have been compared to Alice Walker's The Color Purple and Toni Morrison's The 
Bluest Eye in that they, too, garnered praise from white critics and featured 
emotional and sexual abuse of black youth by family members. The fact that 
these works feature abuse isn't in and of itself a problem. The problem is how 
the mainstream receives these works. I have no problem if viewers and critics 
regard "Precious" et al. as representations of particular black families. On 
the other hand, I do object to viewers and critics who regard a film like 
"Precious" as the only authentic black experience and a television program such 
as " The Cosby Show " as inauthentic. The fact is both of these slices of black 
life are authentic. 



I do understand, though, why some members of the black community have 
criticized "Precious." Positive images of blacks in the media remain few and 
far between. In comedies, blacks are portrayed as buffoonish, cartoonish and 
uncouth. Films such as " Norbit ," " Doctor Dolittle " and " Big Momma's House 
," not to mention any Tyler Perry flick, mock black womanhood. And on the 
dramatic end, we've had stories of gang warfare, virulent racism and abusive or 
absentee parents. 



There's no doubt in my mind that media portrayals of people of color can lead 
to racial stereotyping. I'm reminded of a former classmate from a 
Mexican-American family from East L.A. Her roommate freshman year was a 
Midwesterner who, upon seeing the gang film " Mi Vida Loca ," said that she 
didn't realize my classmate had lived such a hard life. My friend laughed and 
told her that she had little in common with the "Mi Vida Loca" characters. 

In the case of "Precious," critics not only fear that the film will lead to 
racial stereotyping but that it constitutes "poverty porn." This refers to 
films that cater to privileged moviegoers who get off on taking in images of 
poor people in desperate situations. After watching such cinema, the privileged 
feel like better people just for having seen the film but do nothing to make 
change in the world they've witnessed on screen. 



In a New York Times Magazine interview , director Lee Daniels confessed that he 
worried about screening "Precious" for a European audience. 



"To be honest, I was embarrassed to show this movie at Cannes," he said. "I 
didn't want to exploit black people. And I wasn't sure I wanted white French 
people to see our world." 



He added, however, that because the world now has a black role model in Barack 
Obama , a story such as "Precious" can be shared without fear of racial 
backlash. I don't agree with this, considering that Obama is likely viewed by 
those in the U.S. and outside of it as the exception rather than the rule as 
far as African Americans go. 

I was also eager to hear Daniels discuss how he feels about exposing audiences 
to the thread of " colorism " that runs through "Precious." While the evil 
characters in the film are dark-skinned, the benevolent characters are played 
by actors so light-skinned they're not easily identifiable as black. 



"I'm prejudiced against people who are darker than me," Daniels remarked in New 
York Times Magazine . "When I was young, I went to a church where the 
lighter-skinned you were, the closer you sat to the altar. Anybody that's heavy 
like Precious -- I thought they were dirty and not very smart. Making this 
movie changed my heart. I'll never look at a fat girl walking down the street 
the same way again." 



I'm glad that Lee's prejudice dissipated during the course of making 
"Precious," but that doesn't change the harmful message sent by the colorism in 
his film. In the book "Precious" is based on, a dark-skinned teacher with 
natural hair changes Precious' perceptions of dark skin from negative to 
positive. This powerful transformation is lacking in the film because a 
fair-skinned actress was cast to play Precious' teacher. If Daniels really did 
become less prejudiced about size and color while making "Precious," hopefully 
his next project will feature dark-skinned blacks of strong character rather 
than violent, exploitative brutes with dark skin. 


  





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