Re: [CentOS] SELinux context for ssh host keys?

2015-02-10 Thread James B. Byrne

On Tue, February 10, 2015 04:18, Andrew Holway wrote:
 On 10 February 2015 at 06:32, Mark Tinberg mark.tinb...@wisc.edu
 wrote:


  On Feb 9, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Robert Nichols
 rnicholsnos...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  On 02/09/2015 11:14 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
  So, I decided to run restorecon -v to
 
 ...
  restorecon reset /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key_4096 context
  unconfined_u:object_r:sshd_key_t:s0-unconfined_u:object_r:etc_t:s0


 Why are you putting your SSH key in /etc/ ?

 With SELinux its normally better to go with the flow. find out which
 directories have the desired label and keep your objects in there.

 I'm guessing in this case ~/.ssh/






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Re: [CentOS] SELinux context for ssh host keys?

2015-02-10 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 09:34:13AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote:
 I am startled to learn, if it is a fact, that existing SELinux policy
 is tied to the default file names.  Given that the host key file names
 are user configurable in in sshd_config one would think that a
 slightly more flexible approach is called for.

If you choose names that aren't part of the policy, you can always
supplement the policy with your own rules.  The existing policy in
CentOS7 is pretty flexible, it should mark files with the following
patterns as sshd_key_t:
/etc/ssh/ssh_host.*_key,
/etc/ssh/ssh_host.*_key.pub,
/etc/ssh/primes

In CentOS6, the policy is for:
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub,
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub,
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub,
/etc/ssh/primes,
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key,
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key,
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key

... which is a bit less flexible.

If you want to supplement the policy, you can run:

semanage fcontext -a -t sshd_key_t /etc/ssh/whatever_keyname_I_want

... to update the local policy with your own rules.  Then a
`restorecon` will choose the correct type.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 will not run pre-installation script

2015-02-10 Thread Chris Beattie
On 2/9/2015 9:15 PM, g wrote: 
 On 02/09/2015 05:10 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote:

 That's my plan too.  I figure that I'll try it when it gets to 7.3.
 
 i thought it was better to use the even number revisions.

I think the even numbers advice only applies to Star Trek movies.

CentOS 7.3 will be usable, but 7.3.11 for Workgroups is where things will 
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Re: [CentOS] KISS networking with CentOS 7

2015-02-10 Thread Niki Kovacs

Le 10/02/2015 15:35, Niki Kovacs a écrit :



So far, no way to bring either eth0 or eth1 up. What am I doing wrong
here? Is NetworkManager now a mandatory part of the base system? Some
other mistake somewhere else? I'm a bit puzzled here.



I'll answer that myself, after some more experimenting. Apparently, 
reverting to the traditional ethX interface naming scheme creates some 
unexpected behavior. I decided to keep the new persistent naming scheme 
(enp2s0 and enp3s1 on my server), and from there, everything works like 
expected.


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Re: [CentOS] libguestfs-winsupport

2015-02-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/09/2015 08:56 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
 On 02/09/2015 09:34 AM, Robert Nichols wrote:
 On 02/06/2015 07:56 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
 Hello List,

 Does anyone know why this is not available in CentOS 6.6. I found it in
 a SL repo but not in CentOS.
 I opened http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=8183 last Friday (Feb 6).
 You can also use the one in the C6.5-updates vault repository.

 Thanks!
 

The reason this keeps getting pulled is that it is not in the normal
channels we use when comparing to RHEL manifests. So, when we build the
list of packages it gets left out.

I think I should put it in CentOS Extras where it should get carried
over when we update.

It is now in extras, so it should move up on new point releases.



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[CentOS] Central hostname management?

2015-02-10 Thread Niki Kovacs

Hi,

Our local school has a 100 % Slackware Linux network with two servers 
and 14 desktop clients.


The main server is running Dnsmasq, and he's providing static IP 
addresses to the desktop clients. Hostnames are also managed centrally.


All client machines only have this in /etc/hosts:

127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost

And in /etc/HOSTNAME:

localhost.localdomain

The hostname gets sent to each of the desktop clients by the server. The 
big advantage is I can manage everything centrally from the server. One 
line in /etc/dnsmasq.conf, and that's it. Client installs can all be 
cloned with Ghost4Linux.


Now I'm trying to do the same thing on CentOS 7.

/etc/hosts:

127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost (IPv6 is disabled)

/etc/hostname:

localhost

I'm experimenting with all this while reading the RHEL Networking Guide. 
I understand CentOS 7 is using hostnamectl to manage the hostname.


In that case, what do I have to do? Can hostnamectl be somewhat disabled 
and/or removed?


Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] SELinux context for ssh host keys?

2015-02-10 Thread James B. Byrne

On Tue, February 10, 2015 09:25, James B. Byrne wrote:

By mistake.  Sorry for the otherwise empty quoted reply.  I have no
idea what I pressed that sent it off while I was reading.

And, since I am committed to writing anyway, recall that a host key
goes into /etc/ssh.  Personal keys go into ~/.ssh.

As to why I am not using the default name for the rsa host key. That
is because I am testing and I would rather not disturb things too much
given my ignorance of ssh matters.

I am startled to learn, if it is a fact, that existing SELinux policy
is tied to the default file names.  Given that the host key file names
are user configurable in in sshd_config one would think that a
slightly more flexible approach is called for.

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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Tue, February 10, 2015 6:58 pm, Always Learning wrote:

 On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 16:39 -0800, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 2/10/2015 3:28 PM, Always Learning wrote:
  3. The Russian's web site is that of a devote cyclist.

 oh, well, I'm glad that makes the copyright violation of stealing an
 authors work OK in your book.

 Another bored expert desperate for a modicum of excitement ?

 You have absolutely no prima facie evidence to support your assertion.

 I refer you to my posting dated Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:10:35 + which
 includes, inter alia:-

 Keith neither of us know whether or not the Russian man obtained his
 PDF copy of the book lawfully.  In my book-publishing opinion, the PDF
 appears to have originated from the book's publisher, so the original
 source must have been *the* official source. Hence the book, in the PDF
 version, must have been written by the official authors.

 The existence of an alleged unpaid-for copy on a foreign web site can
 not, in any sense whatsoever, denigrate, diminish nor deprecate the
 official authors distinguished achievement.

 There are poor people all around the world who enjoy computers
 including Linux and whom would benefit from learning more about Linux.
 Some who can read English sufficiently proficiently to benefit from the
 book's text, may be too poor to afford the, to them in their country,
 exorbitant Western price for an official copy.  Some publishers
 recognise this reality and sell in third-world countries at a small
 fraction of the Western price. In those circumstances selling PDFs for
 an extremely low price may be the source of this particular PDF
 especially as hardbacks and paperbacks could never economically be sold
 as low as a very low cost official PDF copy.

 FACT: Valeri's recommendation is, in my opinion, a useful source of
 basic knowledge benefiting Centos users regardless whether that book in
 printed on paper or is a virtual or an electronic book (i.e. PDF).

Just to make it clear: I recommended the book itself without pointing to
any source of it, and when pirate copy was mentioned by somebody else, I
had to say I do not recommend that source and would recommend to buy the
book on amazon.

The guy who put document copyrighted to somebody else is either stupid or
ignorant (and I don't care if he is Russian, Bulgarian, Chinese, or USA
person, or...). Ignorance in this place is akin full disregard of another
person's hard work and rights (Book brilliant authors' and copyright
holders'). I doubt we can educate that Russian guy. Unless someone who
feels good towards him can find way to contact him and explain
everything... Not I definitely ;-)

Valeri


 ANOTHER FACT: Linux Programmer's Reference, Petersen, Osborne
 McGraw-Hill 1998 - ISBN 0-07-882587-3, which I obtained on 27 October
 2000, is also a good good source of useful information. I've started
 re-reading the 71 pages on BASH.  I never knew the first character on
 the first line could be a space.

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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 02/10/2015 05:29 PM, Always Learning wrote:

Legal point 1: you do not know the source of the Russian's PDF.

Legal point 2: you can not determine with certainty that the said PDF is
*not* a lawful copy.

Legal point 3: you can not establish the Russian's possession of the PDF
is *not* lawful.


I don't think anyone is arguing that point.  But if anyone else 
downloads the PDF from his site, then they are violating the copyright. 
 I can only assume you have violated the copyright, as you are quoting 
from the PDF.



Legal point 7: You are unproductively using your own, and other's, time,
interest and energy.


And you are perpetuating the same.  Please let it go, and do not 
encourage copyright infringement.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 : create RAID arrays manually using mdadm --create ?

2015-02-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:12 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 On 2/10/2015 6:54 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

 Why I avoid swap on md raid 1/10 is because of the swap caveats listed
 under man 4 md. Is possible for a page in memory to change between the
 writes to the two md devices such that the mirrors are in fact
 different. The man page only suggests this makes scrub check results
 unreliable, and that such a difference wouldn't be read (?) But I
 don't understand this. So I just avoid it because I haven't thoroughly
 tested it.


 if its possible for that to happen, then the whole swapping AND mdraid
 mechanisms in linux are badly broken.

I suggest not taking my word for it, and reading man (4) md, starting
with the paragraph The most likely cause for an unexpected mismatch
on RAID1 or RAID10 occurs if a swap partition or swap file is stored
on the array and including the following 4 paragraphs, and let me
know what you think it's saying. It made my eyebrows raise, but it
seems to be saying it's not actually resulting in corruption. The part
I don't understand is how a page change between the writes to two
(swap on) mirrors translates into unused swap and thus not a problem
that there's a (meaningful) mismatch between the two mirrors. If the
page write to disk happened at all, it seems like this is used rather
than not used swap.

For data (not swap), a related known issue for all raid 1 and 5 is a
series of common problems: regularly scheduled scrubs are necessary to
make sure bad sectors are identified and corrected, yet this isn't the
default behavior, it has to be configured; further, a reported
mismatch doesn't unambiguously tell us which copy is good (or bad),
it's merely reported that they're different. Ergo, regularly schedule
checks are a good idea, while repair is sort of a last resort
because it might cause the good copy to get overwritten.

This isn't broken. It's just the way it's designed. This is what
DIF/DIX (now PI), Btrfs and ZFS are meant to address. There's also
been some intermittent talk on linux-raid@ whether and how to get
checksums integrated there.


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 19:19 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:


 Just to make it clear: I recommended the book itself without pointing to
 any source of it, and when pirate copy was mentioned by somebody else, I
 had to say I do not recommend that source and would recommend to buy the
 book on amazon.

The person asserting the copy was pirated (meaning stolen) has no
proof it was stolen. Just because someone jumps up and down shouting
various things, can not in law make any of those things a fact.  

To prove something one needs FACTS which is also known as evidence. No
evidence exists that the copy was stolen. Justice depends on factual
information not people inventing facts without proof.  If I claimed
you were Bill Gates' brother, would that actually make you Bill Gates'
brother ?  


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 5:39 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 On 2/10/2015 3:28 PM, Always Learning wrote:

 3. The Russian's web site is that of a devote cyclist.


 oh, well, I'm glad that makes the copyright violation of stealing an authors
 work OK in your book.

This thread has gone quite off topic. But as a published author, which
should give me no more authority on the subject than anyone else, who
happens to have had his copyright ripped off, I have to say that I
don't really give a crap. Maybe I give a tiny crap.

For one, the freeloader problem is well understood economically, and
isn't that big of a problem so long as the price and distribution
mechanisms are appropriate in the first place. Second, not everyone on
this planet is on the same page (or even book) when it comes to
property rights; this can't be construed to mean we're right and
they're wrong. Someone who buys my book and now has these ideas, who
then replicates them with his own physical property (ink and paper)
really hasn't cost me anything. The idea I've lost sales royalties is
sort of a b.s. argument, chances are these people wouldn't have ever
bought the book to begin with. OK, so the argument goes, then these
people shouldn't benefit from these ideas. Well, in my case, they're
not really ideas, they're facts - it's a technical book. And you can't
copyright facts. You can only copyright the prose by which those facts
are presented.

An incomplete search suggests the average middle class Russian annual
income is around $10k-$15k. This book is 0.2% of that salary. The
average U.S. salary is nearly 4x that amount. Does anything think the
price of this book is 1/4 the price in Russian? *shrug*

The whole valuation and pricing of this sort of stuff is bullcrap.
It's a less than a $40 book on Amazon, chances are each author is
making much less than $1 in royalties per book. So who's being ripped
off the most by downloading a bootleg PDF? The publisher. The authors
aren't being injured that much.


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote:

 On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 17:14 -0800, John R Pierce wrote:

 On 2/10/2015 4:58 PM, Always Learning wrote:
  You have absolutely no prima facie evidence to support your assertion.

 Seriously?   from page 5 of said PDF.

 Copyright © 2011 Pearson Education, Inc. All rights reserved.
 Printed in the United States of America. This publication is
 protected by copyright, and permission must be obtained from the
 publisher prior to any prohibited reproduction, storage in a
 retrieval system, or transmission in any form or by any means,
 electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or likewise

 Oh dear.

 Legal point 1: you do not know the source of the Russian's PDF.

Well seeing as it's over 1200 pages and only ~16MB, it cannot possibly
be scanned. It's too small a file. If I had to guess, it probably
escaped somewhere between whoever did the layout and created the
original PDF, and a foreign publisher (I'm assuming this book has been
translated into other languages).


 Legal point 2: you can not determine with certainty that the said PDF is
 *not* a lawful copy.

It's most definitely not a lawful copy. I'm completely certain of this.



 Legal point 3: you can not establish the Russian's possession of the PDF
 is *not* lawful.

Russia is a UCC signatory, it's certain it's not a lawful copy under
either international or Russian law.





 Legal point 4: Page iv (meaning preface page 4 but physical page 5)
 contains

 Copyright © 2011 Pearson Education, Inc.
 All rights reserved. Printed in the United States of America. This
 publication is protected by copyright, and permission must be obtained
 from the publisher prior to any prohibited reproduction, storage in a
 retrieval system, or transmission in any form or by any means,
 electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or likewise. For
 information regarding permissions, write to:
 Pearson Education, Inc.
 Rights and Contracts Department
 501 Boylston Street, Suite 900
 Boston, MA 02116
 Fax: (617) 671-3447
 ISBN-13: 978-0-13-148005-6
 ISBN-10: 0-13-148005-7
 Text printed in the United States on recycled paper at Edwards Brothers
 in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
 First printing, June 2010

 Legal point 5: You are seriously mistaken in asserting the said PDF did
 *not* originate from the publisher.

It doesn't matter if the publisher lost containment and the PDF
escaped into the wild. It's still copyright infringement to cause
copyrighted material to be replicated without permission.



 Legal point 6: You have no case to argue.

OK well if you're going to take the time to make bullshit legal points
like this, then I get to say you sir, may kindly kiss my ass.


 Legal point 7: You are unproductively using your own, and other's, time,
 interest and energy.

So are you, and this is your informal invitation to stop.


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 21:04 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:

 What libraries offer is not only legal, it's important to keep this
 intact. Publishers have variably been very unreasonable abrogating the
 first-sale doctrine when it comes to ebook versions. It's a case where
 I believe in no shade of gray. If I'm led to believe I've bought an
 ebook, not merely renting it, then I should have the right to give
 that ebook to a library, school, friend, leave it in an estate to
 children. And quite a number of publishers deny this doctrine applies
 to ebooks. Not good.

My considered opinion is:-

PDF copies, as produced by the publisher, should be sold for no more
than USD $ 10.00 per copy with 30% going directly to the author. At
present publishers are far too greedy. Their lust for the public's cash
is detrimental to learning generally and to the distribution of
knowledge. 

Many years ago, before I sold my soul to the computer world for GBP £2
per week extra pay, bookshops received between 45% and 55% discount.
PDFs require no storage space in premises, no heating, no building
insurance, no public liability insurance, no staffing costs etc. etc.
Consequently it is unreasonable for the publisher and/or the distributor
to retain most of the income from PDF and other e-book format sales.
They are doing virtually no work but profiteering enormously from the
author's hard work.

Admittedly it is possible for sellers to sell cloned copies of PDFs.
However it must be possible to overprint every page in a PDF with a
sellers receipt number or publisher's copy-serial-number which could be
entered on a web site when seeking errata and extras associated with
possession of the publication - or even registering possession of a copy
for future updates and associated information.


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/10/2015 5:29 PM, Always Learning wrote:

Legal point 1: you do not know the source of the Russian's PDF.


doesn't matter.


Legal point 2: you can not determine with certainty that the said PDF is
*not*  a lawful copy.


I know that *I* don't have the rights to read that PDF, and I suspect 
you don't either.   Do you have  written permission from the copyright 
holder, Pearson Publishing, to download that ?I  see a statement 
embedded in the work that permission is required to reproduce, store, 
transmit, etc in any form.  Your suggesting on a public forum such 
as this that a random copy on a random website is an acceptable source 
of a copyrighted work is immoral and wrong.




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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 : create RAID arrays manually using mdadm --create ?

2015-02-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 - I would not put swap on an md device, I'd just put a plain swap
 partition on each device; first create two swap mountpoints,

 If one of the devices fails, doesn't that mean that any processes with
 swap on the associated space will be killed?Avoiding that is kind
 of the point of having mirrors

It's a good question.

I try to avoid swap use, especially on hard drives. For some use cases
it's better to slow to a crawl than implode under pressure. For more
cases I think swap on SSD makes more sense, the system won't slow down
nearly as much.

Why I avoid swap on md raid 1/10 is because of the swap caveats listed
under man 4 md. Is possible for a page in memory to change between the
writes to the two md devices such that the mirrors are in fact
different. The man page only suggests this makes scrub check results
unreliable, and that such a difference wouldn't be read (?) But I
don't understand this. So I just avoid it because I haven't thoroughly
tested it.

So if anyone has, that'd be useful info. If not, it might be worth
asking in linux-raid@ for clarification.

But sure, if swap is actively used and vanishes due to drive failure,
decent chance it's a problem. How it'll manifest though?


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Tue, February 10, 2015 7:36 pm, Always Learning wrote:

 On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 19:19 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:


 Just to make it clear: I recommended the book itself without pointing to
 any source of it, and when pirate copy was mentioned by somebody else, I
 had to say I do not recommend that source and would recommend to buy the
 book on amazon.

Indeed I should have said allegedly pirated not just pirated. As I
don't care to go into details if it is or it isn't. I also would recommend
to finish this discussion and those who feel so get themselves some
fundamental book and go ahead with reading it. Which I'm going to do
myself (there are things I need to read...)

Valeri


 The person asserting the copy was pirated (meaning stolen) has no
 proof it was stolen. Just because someone jumps up and down shouting
 various things, can not in law make any of those things a fact.

 To prove something one needs FACTS which is also known as evidence. No
 evidence exists that the copy was stolen. Justice depends on factual
 information not people inventing facts without proof.  If I claimed
 you were Bill Gates' brother, would that actually make you Bill Gates'
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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 21:32 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote:


 Indeed I should have said allegedly pirated not just pirated. As I
 don't care to go into details if it is or it isn't. I also would recommend
 to finish this discussion and those who feel so get themselves some
 fundamental book and go ahead with reading it. Which I'm going to do
 myself (there are things I need to read...)

On my desk I have a copy of 'The Book'. I got it free of all costs. It
is not mine. I did not buy it or otherwise make a payment to possess it.
It has the same copyright notice inside. It does not state Pirate Copy
anywhere on the covers or inside. Hopefully I am lawfully allow to read
it ?

Before an unnecessary riot starts perhaps I should mention I've borrowed
'The Book' from a public library :-)


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 17:14 -0800, John R Pierce wrote:

 On 2/10/2015 4:58 PM, Always Learning wrote:
  You have absolutely no prima facie evidence to support your assertion.
 
 Seriously?   from page 5 of said PDF.
 
 Copyright © 2011 Pearson Education, Inc. All rights reserved.
 Printed in the United States of America. This publication is
 protected by copyright, and permission must be obtained from the
 publisher prior to any prohibited reproduction, storage in a
 retrieval system, or transmission in any form or by any means,
 electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or likewise

Oh dear. 

Legal point 1: you do not know the source of the Russian's PDF.

Legal point 2: you can not determine with certainty that the said PDF is
*not* a lawful copy.

Legal point 3: you can not establish the Russian's possession of the PDF
is *not* lawful.

Legal point 4: Page iv (meaning preface page 4 but physical page 5)
contains

Copyright © 2011 Pearson Education, Inc.
All rights reserved. Printed in the United States of America. This
publication is protected by copyright, and permission must be obtained
from the publisher prior to any prohibited reproduction, storage in a
retrieval system, or transmission in any form or by any means,
electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or likewise. For
information regarding permissions, write to:
Pearson Education, Inc.
Rights and Contracts Department
501 Boylston Street, Suite 900
Boston, MA 02116
Fax: (617) 671-3447
ISBN-13: 978-0-13-148005-6
ISBN-10: 0-13-148005-7
Text printed in the United States on recycled paper at Edwards Brothers
in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
First printing, June 2010

Legal point 5: You are seriously mistaken in asserting the said PDF did
*not* originate from the publisher.

Legal point 6: You have no case to argue.

Legal point 7: You are unproductively using your own, and other's, time,
interest and energy.




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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 17:59 -0700, Warren Young wrote:

  On Feb 10, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote:
  
  2. PDFs can be created by *NON-ADOBE* software.
 
 And SWFs can be generated by non-Adobe software, and JARs can be generated by 
 non-Oracle software.  What’s your point?  Is it that only Evil Corporations 
 can create software that can be used for evil purposes?
 
 Are you back on the “F/OSS software is invulnerable” bandwagon already, after 
 being knocked off it a week or two back?
 
  PDF's (well most of
  them) can be opened by non-Adobe PDF-type software.
 
 So what do you do when you get a PDF that *can’t* be opened by your non-Adobe 
 PDF reader?  Do you discard it and go find another way to get the content, or 
 do you grumble and fire up acroread?
 
  3. The Russian's web site is that of a devote cyclist.
 
 I’m a devout cyclist, too, yet you’ve apparently decided I’m an enemy.

Warren, I have never declared you to be an enemy. I am an all weather
cyclist who used take his bike as luggage on aircraft.

 What makes this other guy unimpeachable?
 
 I could care less that he’s Russian, or a cyclist.  What I care is that he’s 
 purposely providing illicit goods.

Then go and complain to the USA's FBI on +1.202-324 3000. It is not a
Centos issue !

   That’s enough for me to distrust what he’s providing.

 This Russian cyclist doesn’t even have to be the source of the evil.  Chances 
 are that he didn’t buy this PDF from an official source and offer it 
 directly.  It’s far more likely that he’s just another step in the chain back 
 to the original source.  Why are you trusting all of them, too?

  Warren, it is senseless you wasting your valuable time trying to make me
  do what you want.

Please don't waste your time moaning about something which is not
related to Centos.

 Make you?  How am I going to accomplish that?  I have no power over you.
 
 I just thought that, since you were Always Learning, you’d want someone to 
 tell you when they saw you doing something that could compromise your 
 security.

I never stated I was stupid. Being in the world's top 2% of brainy
people neither deprives me of decisiveness nor of thoughtful
consideration. Having encountered my first M$ boot virus circa 1987 ?
and having seen others experiencing M$ viruses, I am aware of the
dangers.

This thread is unproductive.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Fwd: CentOS.org redirected links in wiki.c.o/Download

2015-02-10 Thread PatrickD Garvey
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Fabian Arrotin arr...@centos.org wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On 10/02/15 05:58, PatrickD Garvey wrote:
 From: PatrickD Garvey patrickdgarv...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Feb
 2, 2015 at 11:14 AM Subject: CentOS.org redirected links in
 wiki.c.o/Download To: CentOS-docs - centos-docs@CentOS.org
 centos-docs@centos.org


 The following links in wiki.c.o/Download:
 [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/isos/i386/ i386]
 [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/isos/x86_64/ x86_64]
 [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/isos/i386/ i386]
 [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/isos/x86_64/ x86_64] get
 redirected to: [http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/6/isos/i386/
 i386] [http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/6/isos/x86_64/
 x86_64] [http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/5/isos/i386/ i386]
 [http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/5/isos/x86_64/ x86_64]

 but [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/ x86_64]
 [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/ RPMs]
 [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/ RPMs]
 [http://mirror.centos.org/centos-5/5/ RPMs] do NOT get
 redirected.

 Should the first list be changed in wiki.c.o/Download? Should
 both lists be changed? Should neither list be changed?


 Does anyone have any advice?

 Trying to understand the issue : all links on the wiki point to
 mirror.centos.org .. but the RewriteRule happens at the
 mirror.centos.org level when trying to reach /isos/* ..
 I don't see a problem here. Can you elaborate ? Or do you just want to
 switch mirror.centos.org to isoredirect directly ?

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Thank you. Excellent answer.

I had a suspicion there was something like a RewriteRule happening,
though I've never used one. The directory name isoredirect seemed
like a clue, but, since I don't have administrative access to
centos.org, I had to ask for more knowledgeable help.
Your answer also seems to indicate that changing the wiki data from
[mirror.centos.org... to [isoredirect.centos.org... is considered
bad style in this case, the preference being a RewriteRule

I'll move on to the next issue I have with wiki.c.o/Download, which
I'll address in a new posting when I recall what it is.
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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote:

 Before an unnecessary riot starts perhaps I should mention I've borrowed
 'The Book' from a public library :-)

FYI my comments are restricted the PDF floating around of the
recommended UNIX and Linux System Admin book. That's definitely not
legit.

What libraries offer is not only legal, it's important to keep this
intact. Publishers have variably been very unreasonable abrogating the
first-sale doctrine when it comes to ebook versions. It's a case where
I believe in no shade of gray. If I'm led to believe I've bought an
ebook, not merely renting it, then I should have the right to give
that ebook to a library, school, friend, leave it in an estate to
children. And quite a number of publishers deny this doctrine applies
to ebooks. Not good.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 : create RAID arrays manually using mdadm --create ?

2015-02-10 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/10/2015 6:54 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

Why I avoid swap on md raid 1/10 is because of the swap caveats listed
under man 4 md. Is possible for a page in memory to change between the
writes to the two md devices such that the mirrors are in fact
different. The man page only suggests this makes scrub check results
unreliable, and that such a difference wouldn't be read (?) But I
don't understand this. So I just avoid it because I haven't thoroughly
tested it.


if its possible for that to happen, then the whole swapping AND mdraid 
mechanisms in linux are badly broken.




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Re: [CentOS] KISS networking with CentOS 7

2015-02-10 Thread Niki Kovacs

Le 10/02/2015 17:20, m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit :

Please explicate - offlist is fine. I really dislike the naming
convention I was installing on a new HP dl560 g8, and it came up with
ensf1 (which is*great*  fun if you're trying to do a pxeboot build)


The CentOS FAQ explains how to restore the traditional naming scheme:

http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS7#head-31ebc6642958a0df12304d6aab9a49034a3b7802

That being said, everything works fine now with the new interface names. 
I guess I'll just have to get used to it. Feels a bit like FreeBSD. :oD


Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] KISS networking with CentOS 7

2015-02-10 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 05:24:53PM +0100, Niki Kovacs wrote:
 Le 10/02/2015 17:20, m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit :
 Please explicate - offlist is fine. I really dislike the naming
 convention I was installing on a new HP dl560 g8, and it came up with
 ensf1 (which is*great*  fun if you're trying to do a pxeboot build)
 
 The CentOS FAQ explains how to restore the traditional naming scheme:
 
 http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS7#head-31ebc6642958a0df12304d6aab9a49034a3b7802
 
 That being said, everything works fine now with the new interface
 names. I guess I'll just have to get used to it. Feels a bit like
 FreeBSD. :oD

No, FreeBSD names make sense, giving you an idea of what driver is being
used.

I've also never found FreeBSD nics to change after installation.  
That is, if the card was bge0, it stayed bge0 after reboots.

Granted, if you move the drive to a machine with a different brand of NIC, 
you'll have to edit /etc/rc.conf to reflect the new name.
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Re: [CentOS] Packages not available in CentOS 7

2015-02-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Venkateswara Rao Dokku
dvrao@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the reply.

 I did clean installation of the CentOS 7 and wanted to install the list of
 packages in the above mail, but couldn't get them installed.

 Can you please help me in installing the above packages?

mod_perl definitely exists.  Some of the others have been replaced by
packages with similar functionality (cronie vs.vixie-cron,
dracut-tools vs. mkinitrd).  If you don't see it explained in the
release notes, try a 'yum search' for a match on part of the name to
see what looks likely.   Or, just try to start your applications and
see if they complain about missing libraries, etc.

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Re: [CentOS] SELinux context for ssh host keys?

2015-02-10 Thread Andrew Holway
On 10 February 2015 at 06:32, Mark Tinberg mark.tinb...@wisc.edu wrote:


  On Feb 9, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Robert Nichols rnicholsnos...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  On 02/09/2015 11:14 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
  So, I decided to run restorecon -v to
 
 ...
  restorecon reset /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key_4096 context
  unconfined_u:object_r:sshd_key_t:s0-unconfined_u:object_r:etc_t:s0


Why are you putting your SSH key in /etc/ ?

With SELinux its normally better to go with the flow. find out which
directories have the desired label and keep your objects in there.

I'm guessing in this case ~/.ssh/
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Re: [CentOS] Packages installation in CentOs

2015-02-10 Thread Venkateswara Rao Dokku
Thanks for the quick reply.
I couldn't install the following packages also in the CentOS 7

1. python-numeric
2. system-config-services
3. perl-BSD-Resource
4. Perl-Net-IP
5.system-config-nfs
6.ipspec-tools

Can you please suggest best way to install the above listed packages on
CentOs 7?

Are the packages listed above deprecated for CentOS 7 or merged into some
other packages?

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:58 AM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 On 2/9/2015 10:04 PM, Venkateswara Rao Dokku wrote:

 1. rhpl

 redhat python libraries have been integrated into other things.

 2. mod_perl

 mod_perl is available in epel

 3. notification-daemon

no idea what this is.

 4. vixie-cron

 cron is installed by default.

 5. kudzu

 obsoleted.

 6. redhat-lsb

 redhat-lsb should be installed by default

 7. mod_pyton

 seems to be a dead end

  8. webalizer

 didn't find it, but I bet this is easy to install from source.

  9. pam_ccreds

 obsoleted

 10. libnotify

 in the base repository.

 11. irda_utils

 wow, I haven't seen anyone use irda in years.   irda-utils is in the epel
 repo (note its - not _ )

 12. readahead

 not sure what that is, but it appears to have gone away.

 13. Mkinitrd

 mkinitrd is in the dracut base package

 14. Alchemist

 not sure what these are, but they appear to have gone away.

  15. Cadevar


 cadaver, and its in epel.

  16. sustem-config-network-tui
 17. firstboot-tui


 both those 'text-user-interfaces' are completely obsoleted.


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Re: [CentOS] Gnome-3 - can't drag menu items out

2015-02-10 Thread Ron Yorston
Les Mikesell wrote:
I've mostly been using MATE from epel when I use GUI access on CentOS7
because it works with x2go, but just noticed on a system with Gnome3
that I can't drag items out of the menus to the desktop or top bar for
easier access.  Is there some way to make the desktop space useful for
more than pretty wallpaper?

I'm not at my usual machines so I don't have access to CentOS 7 or
GNOME 3 at the moment.  And even if did I tend not to bother with
stuff on the desktop so I couldn't help with that anyway.

However, if it's menu items in the top bar you want I do have an app
for that, or rather a GNOME Shell extension.  Visit

   https://extensions.gnome.org

and search for 'Frippery Panel Favorites'.  You might need to 'yum
install gnome-shell-browser-plugin' first to allow extensions to be
installed from the website.

Frippery Panel Favorites displays icons in the top bar for applications
that have been configured as favourites in the overview screen.
It works in standard GNOME Shell and in classic mode.  I find it
much less distracting than having to switch to the overview to access
frequently-used applications.

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Re: [CentOS-virt] Building Xen 4.4 rpms for centos7

2015-02-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 05:27:48PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
  
  Agreed on this too .. let's use as much the same as we can, and we can
  use %if statements in the SPEC to differentiate el6 and el7 things, if
  necessary.  systemd versus init and maybe some version number changes
  for buildrequires should be the changes we need to be concerned about.
 
 
 Yep!
  
  
  We can try to take the RH 3.10 el7 kernel, mod it for xen, and use it ..
  or we can shift to 3.14.x and that buys us at least one more year .. or
  wait until they name the next LTS kernel and go for that.  Likely the
  next LTS kernel will be the easiest option (the RH modified kernel will
  not support xen and rolling in stuff externally will be hard because of
  the backports RH does to the kernel (things that go into a standard
  kernel will not apply cleanly to the RH kernel).
  
  But, I agree lets try to use the el6 kernel for xen el7 too .. and we
  can switch both kernels as required later.
  
 
 Yeah we're not in a hurry with the dom0 kernel. Current Linux 3.10.x seems to 
 work fine atm.
 
 Let's focus on getting the current rpms built for el7,
 and then later we can update both el6 and el7 to later kernel/versions.
 

So.. how do we get the Xen 4.4.1 rpms port to el7 going.. ? :)

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Re: [CentOS] Packages installation in CentOs

2015-02-10 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 03:29:50PM +0530, Venkateswara Rao Dokku wrote:

 Thanks for the quick reply.
 I couldn't install the following packages also in the CentOS 7
 
 1. python-numeric

It's built for EPEL 6 and Fedora, they maintainer probably needs to
branch it for EPEL7.

 2. system-config-services

No longer built for CentOS7.

 3. perl-BSD-Resource
 4. Perl-Net-IP

EPEL.

 5.system-config-nfs

No longer built for CentOS7.

 6.ipspec-tools

EPEL.

 Can you please suggest best way to install the above listed packages on
 CentOs 7?

It looks like you ought to look at EPEL
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL) before coming back to the list
with another list.

 Are the packages listed above deprecated for CentOS 7 or merged into some
 other packages?

I see that Fedora have packages for system-config-services and
system-config-nfs, but it isn't built for EL7.  I suspect that
system-config-services is out of date since the switch to systemd as
an init service.  system-config-nfs appears to have stopped
development, so it's also not that useful anymore.

I wouldn't expect there to be a one to one equivalent of every package
in CentOS5 in CentOS7.  Perhaps you should reconsider your
dependencies rather than trying to find an exact duplicate.

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Re: [CentOS] Gnome-3 - can't drag menu items out

2015-02-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Ron Yorston r...@tigress.co.uk wrote:
 Les Mikesell wrote:
I've mostly been using MATE from epel when I use GUI access on CentOS7
because it works with x2go, but just noticed on a system with Gnome3
that I can't drag items out of the menus to the desktop or top bar for
easier access.  Is there some way to make the desktop space useful for
more than pretty wallpaper?

 I'm not at my usual machines so I don't have access to CentOS 7 or
 GNOME 3 at the moment.  And even if did I tend not to bother with
 stuff on the desktop so I couldn't help with that anyway.

 However, if it's menu items in the top bar you want I do have an app
 for that, or rather a GNOME Shell extension.  Visit

https://extensions.gnome.org

Sometimes I use the top bar but generally I just make a folder named
apps on the desktop and drag anything used frequently from the menus
into it.  That approach used to work across windows/mac/gnome2/kde and
made it possible to find things without traversing someone else's
arcane menu layout.  But now I guess gnome3 wants to be different.

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[CentOS] LUKS on EL6 / enable block device after reboot

2015-02-10 Thread Leon Fauster
Is there an easy way (cli) to enable a luks encrypted partition 
after reboot (a partition that was not enabled while booting, 
because not in the crypttab). 

I can execute the necessary command stack [1] but just wondering if 
there is an enterprise/easy way to do that ...

[1] cryptsetup luksOpen $(blkid -t TYPE=crypto_LUKS -o device) \
luks-$(cryptsetup luksUUID $(blkid -t TYPE=crypto_LUKS -o device))

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Re: [CentOS] KISS networking with CentOS 7

2015-02-10 Thread Scott Robbins
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 08:36:15PM +, Always Learning wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 12:34 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
 
  Granted, if you move the drive to a machine with a different brand of NIC, 
  you'll have to edit /etc/rc.conf to reflect the new name.
 
 Is /etc/rc.conf exclusively C7 ?  Can't find it on C5 and C6.
 
 

Sorry, no, I was talking about FreeBSD.  Most of what runs on boot and
services are defined in /etc/rc.conf, as well as networking.
  

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Re: [CentOS] LUKS on EL6 / enable block device after reboot

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 22:08 +0100, Leon Fauster wrote:

 Is there an easy way (cli) to enable a luks encrypted partition 
 after reboot (a partition that was not enabled while booting, 
 because not in the crypttab). 
 
 I can execute the necessary command stack [1] but just wondering if 
 there is an enterprise/easy way to do that ...
 
 [1] cryptsetup luksOpen $(blkid -t TYPE=crypto_LUKS -o device) \
 luks-$(cryptsetup luksUUID $(blkid -t TYPE=crypto_LUKS -o device))


I use a BASH script containing

cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/$1 $2
mkdir /xx/$2
mount /dev/mapper/$2 /xx/$2


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 : create RAID arrays manually using mdadm --create ?

2015-02-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Niki Kovacs i...@microlinux.fr wrote:

 I'd like to be able to create either a simple RAID 1 layout with two disks,
 with a separate /boot partition, or a simple RAID 5 layout with 4 disks,
 with a separate /boot partition too.

The installer can create either of these layouts in manual partitioning.



 The layouts are described in this little Slackware-based HOWTO I wrote, and
 which I'm using on my servers. It's in French, but the command-line bits are
 universal :o)

 http://www.microlinux.fr/slackware/Linux-HOWTOs/LAN-Server-HOWTO.txt

This can also be exactly reproduced with the installer using manual
partitioning. However:

- I'd substitute ext4 or xfs for /boot instead of ext2
- I'd make /boot bigger than 100MB which is almost certainly too small
to hold 3 kernels and initramfs's.
- I would not put swap on an md device, I'd just put a plain swap
partition on each device; first create two swap mountpoints, by
default this creates two swaps on one device. Select one of them and
click on the screwdriver+wrench icon (configure selected mountpoint),
and choose a specific drive, click select, then click Update Settings.
Repeat for each additional swap, making sure each is on its own drive.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 : create RAID arrays manually using mdadm --create ?

2015-02-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 - I would not put swap on an md device, I'd just put a plain swap
 partition on each device; first create two swap mountpoints,

If one of the devices fails, doesn't that mean that any processes with
swap on the associated space will be killed?Avoiding that is kind
of the point of having mirrors

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Re: [CentOS] KISS networking with CentOS 7

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 12:34 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:

 Granted, if you move the drive to a machine with a different brand of NIC, 
 you'll have to edit /etc/rc.conf to reflect the new name.

Is /etc/rc.conf exclusively C7 ?  Can't find it on C5 and C6.



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Re: [CentOS] KISS networking with CentOS 7

2015-02-10 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 08:36:15PM +, Always Learning wrote:
 Is /etc/rc.conf exclusively C7 ?  Can't find it on C5 and C6.

More like FreeBSD (and other BSDs).

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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2015:0164 Moderate CentOS 5 kernel Security Update

2015-02-10 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2015:0164 Moderate

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-0164.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
fbc6e365d23d3da286bf9bded550eabd318a21040f34fa096f1738ebb085767a  
kernel-2.6.18-402.el5.i686.rpm
d477e8c147231636fb3b4ff56faba8aab779e2879e17fc04572bc8807988e472  
kernel-debug-2.6.18-402.el5.i686.rpm
03fa9ae6513e5d2a707af5f4bccd8b1015c84b2bfbc7d1d10d6c80e1ad9a93f9  
kernel-debug-devel-2.6.18-402.el5.i686.rpm
231997d5368ad7f96cd257cbf18cfcfbe430696d8af4f3974aa11d4016e30b60  
kernel-devel-2.6.18-402.el5.i686.rpm
6acd771664c710e4ab60e2411f445346f277993525db15f67369ecf6960fc8ac  
kernel-doc-2.6.18-402.el5.noarch.rpm
7acf02229076c89de3aaca3d30362b37bb2d13a472031a30aaf81160489bbc0f  
kernel-headers-2.6.18-402.el5.i386.rpm
4b6e411599708a2fd881009b5dcbd676af58827b96cccb082cb3f5854f1871e9  
kernel-PAE-2.6.18-402.el5.i686.rpm
d75baea1b6c5d5027c7f9d75408ca0bf63efca74fe3f36bbd257dbe5f3fd4288  
kernel-PAE-devel-2.6.18-402.el5.i686.rpm
2dd5a0cd5c2b15081026fe5ece64a9ae32d6ae306fa807f50211b871f68e58df  
kernel-xen-2.6.18-402.el5.i686.rpm
493f77a0af04025edbdc0350488477f39752ba59d4765efcb49f427bb6dfd761  
kernel-xen-devel-2.6.18-402.el5.i686.rpm

x86_64:
e2d3e0ca21641dac3412c38d076ea849f5269a607be6146edad1952efa67ec5e  
kernel-2.6.18-402.el5.x86_64.rpm
5ab8f391d375c1fefcbc570d9bd1293fbee2140c1c6e6a8fa8ab73554b1fe24b  
kernel-debug-2.6.18-402.el5.x86_64.rpm
cfaf3065d7e69629c50cbe3b4d9178b93f8cdfc30e85e74811fddb91d8357a25  
kernel-debug-devel-2.6.18-402.el5.x86_64.rpm
1d562cbc7192f4fb46cc77d123adfbfe30e31c30ed37edcef568fd529954e888  
kernel-devel-2.6.18-402.el5.x86_64.rpm
6acd771664c710e4ab60e2411f445346f277993525db15f67369ecf6960fc8ac  
kernel-doc-2.6.18-402.el5.noarch.rpm
2041c9eb7f889c907f34c1e04749304f69298f352f2ba7d19f2c3d726fda8726  
kernel-headers-2.6.18-402.el5.x86_64.rpm
53be0ecf7943ece4f03c815af776891f8901c8faf589bf1fff0aa05684a13248  
kernel-xen-2.6.18-402.el5.x86_64.rpm
e416468d318e5af8228ec6e1248fb5f3b60b656827b6232f47f6918bc224c872  
kernel-xen-devel-2.6.18-402.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
bf2745e93b295e13bb88c3d10304f0403cb943373110f26db204c75704df7000  
kernel-2.6.18-402.el5.src.rpm



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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Warren Young
 On Feb 9, 2015, at 12:12 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 
 On 2/9/2015 11:06 AM, Always Learning wrote:
 The third item was a 16.1 MB PDF of 1,344 pages. A quick scan of the PDF
 shows every page appears to be readable.  11 pages devoted to BASH.
 Information on other interesting topics too.
 
 on a site hosted in Russia which appears to be FULL of copyright violations.

Remember, Adobe Flash BAD, Adobe PDF GOOD.

Amazing how quickly security fundamentals — like declining to download a file 
which can contain scripts that run on the local machine from a clearly dodgy 
site — go out the window when put up against expediency.
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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Tue, February 10, 2015 4:04 pm, Warren Young wrote:
 On Feb 9, 2015, at 12:12 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 On 2/9/2015 11:06 AM, Always Learning wrote:
 The third item was a 16.1 MB PDF of 1,344 pages. A quick scan of the
 PDF
 shows every page appears to be readable.  11 pages devoted to BASH.
 Information on other interesting topics too.

 on a site hosted in Russia which appears to be FULL of copyright
 violations.

 Remember, Adobe Flash BAD, Adobe PDF GOOD.

 Amazing how quickly security fundamentals — like declining to download a
 file which can contain scripts that run on the local machine from a
 clearly dodgy site — go out the window when put up against expediency.

Yes, expediency. And cost, quite likely (even though it is better than
affordable). That really suggests the need to learn fundamentals (I would
put in order: Unix or Linux system basics first; system security second).

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 will not run pre-installation script

2015-02-10 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 02/10/2015 06:53 AM, Chris Beattie wrote:

i thought it was better to use the even number revisions.

I think the even numbers advice only applies to Star Trek movies.


The even number thing was coincidental and subjective, and pre-dates 
RHEL.  If it was ever true, it hasn't been true since 2002.  It's 
amazing how some bits of conventional wisdom persist LONG after they 
should be forgot.

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[CentOS] KISS networking with CentOS 7

2015-02-10 Thread Niki Kovacs

Hi,

I'm currently experimenting with CentOS 7 on a couple of installations. 
I'm reasonably proficient with CentOS 5.x and 6.x.


I'd like to manage networking using a more traditional approach (Keep It 
Simple Stupid). Here's what I tried so far, starting from a minimal install:


Install net-tools (to be able to use ifconfig).

Get rid of NetworkManager:

# yum remove NetworkManager*

Add 'net.ifnames=0' and 'biosdevname=0' to kernel boot options to name 
interfaces eth0, eth1, etc.


Edit '/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth{0,1}' like I did under 
previous versions.


Eventually, edit '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' to switch 
interfaces:


# /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
#
# eth0
SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, \
  ATTR{address}==00:1e:c9:42:84:7b, ATTR{type}==1, \
  KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth0
# eth1
SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, \
  ATTR{address}==00:30:f1:6a:2f:40, ATTR{type}==1, \
  KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth1

So far, no way to bring either eth0 or eth1 up. What am I doing wrong 
here? Is NetworkManager now a mandatory part of the base system? Some 
other mistake somewhere else? I'm a bit puzzled here.


Cheers,

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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2015:0162 CentOS 6 augeas BugFix Update

2015-02-10 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2015:0162 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2015-0162.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
830e112850754e1e366d87813eeab40dca1465b08759cf1d5944d1372284fdc3  
augeas-1.0.0-7.el6_6.1.i686.rpm
a0a6a000351426710831fbe0f529a69cf5e9c125348b7e7b288d928d1df4609a  
augeas-devel-1.0.0-7.el6_6.1.i686.rpm
48980fbfc8f19e665036b8dd3cbdbce079536f361bfec7f7133130156f2f3921  
augeas-libs-1.0.0-7.el6_6.1.i686.rpm

x86_64:
bfffb8078feca3c4509ec20529d5683562f49c223d40bb74e8ec3d2b584f1db6  
augeas-1.0.0-7.el6_6.1.x86_64.rpm
a0a6a000351426710831fbe0f529a69cf5e9c125348b7e7b288d928d1df4609a  
augeas-devel-1.0.0-7.el6_6.1.i686.rpm
97fdfb8da2056af339026d3894e288505ffd4c850726c6d53cd7187ab11e2b2d  
augeas-devel-1.0.0-7.el6_6.1.x86_64.rpm
48980fbfc8f19e665036b8dd3cbdbce079536f361bfec7f7133130156f2f3921  
augeas-libs-1.0.0-7.el6_6.1.i686.rpm
7bece2edec3fd7439b8928bfe02d37745008e95758bbe0e72d23a1a8442595ee  
augeas-libs-1.0.0-7.el6_6.1.x86_64.rpm

Source:
e113f6d4d6f55466fcb66b7055209779f701bea3a8bdf33020d016fe7ed09a29  
augeas-1.0.0-7.el6_6.1.src.rpm



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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2015:0165 Moderate CentOS 6 subversion Security Update

2015-02-10 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2015:0165 Moderate

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-0165.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
32a3927ae4971b23bc81f9123363306d8d9a5939b139a3c802de82e5b79644bb  
mod_dav_svn-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
6c23fef4443d27c6e82193bdfbdda82b7898093c1006615dbcc75e3cf68a815a  
subversion-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
6cc1d25aa4ac53e913242ec41159d8de42fadb871384062e45fffecb1d31e175  
subversion-devel-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
6596246e0c441e32c50e6c90c016a714c6c6b0c6ce109c2a69992bbcdb7c00ac  
subversion-gnome-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
1ed02f11d33fd55628ff0d97f2c4b2a901431f9340c59bdb862db3aef6f4dd6a  
subversion-javahl-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
e8a59903e9b33553cf4b1dffe1e191d331496a4e56afdb22dad22eca9c08b2e6  
subversion-kde-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
32906e72f51ff99aa406438d53e538ea2cf7b5e90d84d05258a3a74e8fe329df  
subversion-perl-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
2efa70361dd48f5ebdf2cf5a85f0e58a748760483e6573c37c99e2c2ea12d5b4  
subversion-ruby-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
768cf02d302b8469f9d3960c7bcfecc0358b67e48b389e057db5689d64d43a37  
subversion-svn2cl-1.6.11-12.el6_6.noarch.rpm

x86_64:
cfe4ec1671cf414256ebdf9453c2395084cec939c33f2fecc78adfca6a7e2f05  
mod_dav_svn-1.6.11-12.el6_6.x86_64.rpm
6c23fef4443d27c6e82193bdfbdda82b7898093c1006615dbcc75e3cf68a815a  
subversion-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
870fc0650e8d86a5e48c4628d6b67d52c20a751e51e6a232e54a4b20b1fb7efa  
subversion-1.6.11-12.el6_6.x86_64.rpm
6cc1d25aa4ac53e913242ec41159d8de42fadb871384062e45fffecb1d31e175  
subversion-devel-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
e431d9f4b9790c57e42e9148ffcf13ca00ce688e3c22ab61a128aff3bb73daaa  
subversion-devel-1.6.11-12.el6_6.x86_64.rpm
6596246e0c441e32c50e6c90c016a714c6c6b0c6ce109c2a69992bbcdb7c00ac  
subversion-gnome-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
22fe7bcc6134958b412fc10381341810a5d3a3e70c9c360aba782936c189a4d3  
subversion-gnome-1.6.11-12.el6_6.x86_64.rpm
1ed02f11d33fd55628ff0d97f2c4b2a901431f9340c59bdb862db3aef6f4dd6a  
subversion-javahl-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
0e79ef2ce0f6897b4802be09c2f9f6fe9b737cfda476732cc191e615b57422bb  
subversion-javahl-1.6.11-12.el6_6.x86_64.rpm
e8a59903e9b33553cf4b1dffe1e191d331496a4e56afdb22dad22eca9c08b2e6  
subversion-kde-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
f7bc0a34c739ccb42822099d9d137b53af5f5cd1dcf5102fb71f7966d527b82f  
subversion-kde-1.6.11-12.el6_6.x86_64.rpm
32906e72f51ff99aa406438d53e538ea2cf7b5e90d84d05258a3a74e8fe329df  
subversion-perl-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
a4f559b9031bb7671ad0885d94c91b0aee15b7a1894a845cdd876e08540ec467  
subversion-perl-1.6.11-12.el6_6.x86_64.rpm
2efa70361dd48f5ebdf2cf5a85f0e58a748760483e6573c37c99e2c2ea12d5b4  
subversion-ruby-1.6.11-12.el6_6.i686.rpm
db41dfd9c8b081d35e3931757813a551fe3ddbec09bfe7f2a94b6cb5b192fe9f  
subversion-ruby-1.6.11-12.el6_6.x86_64.rpm
768cf02d302b8469f9d3960c7bcfecc0358b67e48b389e057db5689d64d43a37  
subversion-svn2cl-1.6.11-12.el6_6.noarch.rpm

Source:
2044b1b915eec1cc021681fd599cbf2fd37106670883426e2e24c08d1d45095f  
subversion-1.6.11-12.el6_6.src.rpm



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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2015:0166 Moderate CentOS 7 subversion Security Update

2015-02-10 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2015:0166 Moderate

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-0166.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
ad1d62c0aa11709378918e05cd8f66425901af7759d8ef8119918991bc4a1dcd  
mod_dav_svn-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
4095d987c67eb61556befe167d0f74ad0b777f1a4fe1a94b24441c94b283e933  
subversion-1.7.14-7.el7_0.i686.rpm
f63835d6f425a1628c58afdb484cb89de3bd1e26869dee151b665f2472e6e48a  
subversion-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
51ca7f8c8a5413385f99f6dd0acddce223603f7a9f3718983bc5c99eb01ad40d  
subversion-devel-1.7.14-7.el7_0.i686.rpm
8f612efc6b30488c81e08597cf653f55897a6b837bf4236252e0c9afdc478975  
subversion-devel-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
7ffc0bf23a85735e8444c4641c186e7c5a4d8cb57b883301c9038fac2b18f49f  
subversion-gnome-1.7.14-7.el7_0.i686.rpm
201a8e4b1971d99e45e705004361b0a6ba8165bd1690a5352acdc82035247d25  
subversion-gnome-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
ae5430e9cfcbfd5bc2655827f4cfcc7c57c7301c8402b632c1ee0a8db03bae34  
subversion-javahl-1.7.14-7.el7_0.i686.rpm
26335d6ee4935df7332fd8e2160da8439a03d5ad0777f4e86edb2fa0335874be  
subversion-javahl-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
af9c6ade8371afde8f05b7d74bae455c75065804fc3dba52e7fec1868d02ac3e  
subversion-kde-1.7.14-7.el7_0.i686.rpm
7ebb23191473eb503dd2a960e014406dcbc86cde1fd9a9651d83732c65049ec3  
subversion-kde-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
43ad268e519c29af89eefcd9cd785189bfcb1953398ac4a4b0ae5b0ec8e51726  
subversion-libs-1.7.14-7.el7_0.i686.rpm
88de3d6dde9da26988a107be00f10726b27a00f530f5529b4bc24ad924c89618  
subversion-libs-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
1ea88f946da1d932fa4b1b123eae486dd0dd599e6b6368c31f701b8603538a99  
subversion-perl-1.7.14-7.el7_0.i686.rpm
2855e7f06197f820ae35ed99be61fbf39b36df38cfcdd8dfe1221af0ad62b606  
subversion-perl-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
c912c363a08ac2cdcb7ffab146a1b20c825df729883051d8e558a7a5384ad7ac  
subversion-python-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
346e2e09bfd19ca048ff437999e02136ac8d58670c2df9c3ab14097dcf83c257  
subversion-ruby-1.7.14-7.el7_0.i686.rpm
fe1a3f846fa82245479230d0ae834ceefee70756dc41f015dd57736fadcae0f0  
subversion-ruby-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
b4a223ec01851dbc0add439b90e8de40597e3ea21b054903a3a2794597df960a  
subversion-tools-1.7.14-7.el7_0.x86_64.rpm

Source:
80de3e657ce5343d61d45c3b52453a23d3ac6d069aab1186996ee3d91370b455  
subversion-1.7.14-7.el7_0.src.rpm



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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-10, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote:

 My decisions are based on what I know. Those decisions can be called
 informed decisions.

Calling them informed decisions doesn't automatically make them
informed decisions.

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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/10/2015 3:28 PM, Always Learning wrote:

3. The Russian's web site is that of a devote cyclist.


oh, well, I'm glad that makes the copyright violation of stealing an 
authors work OK in your book.


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Re: [CentOS] Packages not available in CentOS 7

2015-02-10 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 10.02.2015 um 07:08 schrieb Venkateswara Rao Dokku dvrao@gmail.com:
 Thanks for the reply.
 
 I did clean installation of the CentOS 7 and wanted to install the list of
 packages in the above mail, but couldn't get them installed.
 
 Can you please help me in installing the above packages?

Please read the release notes. If you are coming from 5.x then read 
also the notes from 6.x. Some packages are deprecated or substituted
now. 

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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

Valeri and Warren,

My decisions are based on what I know. Those decisions can be called
informed decisions.

I am not abdicating anything to you two gentlemen.


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 23:28 +, Always Learning wrote:

 3. The Russian's web site is that of a *devout* cyclist.


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 15:04 -0700, Warren Young wrote:

  On Feb 9, 2015, at 12:12 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
  
  On 2/9/2015 11:06 AM, Always Learning wrote:
  The third item was a 16.1 MB PDF of 1,344 pages. A quick scan of the PDF
  shows every page appears to be readable.  11 pages devoted to BASH.
  Information on other interesting topics too.
  
  on a site hosted in Russia which appears to be FULL of copyright violations.
 
 Remember, Adobe Flash BAD, Adobe PDF GOOD.

 Amazing how quickly security fundamentals — like declining to download a file 
 which can contain scripts that run on the local machine from a clearly dodgy 
 site — go out the window when put up against expediency.

1. Flash I don't have or use.

2. PDFs can be created by *NON-ADOBE* software. PDF's (well most of
them) can be opened by non-Adobe PDF-type software.

3. The Russian's web site is that of a devote cyclist. Most of the films
on his web site are of cycling or about cycling. Most of the oldish PDF
files are about Linux and in Russian. I do not consider his site
presents a malicious danger to me.


Warren, it is senseless you wasting your valuable time trying to make me
do what you want. The system here just does not work like that - perhaps
elsewhere but certainly not here.


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 16:24 -0800, Keith Keller wrote:
 On 2015-02-10, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote:
 
  My decisions are based on what I know. Those decisions can be called
  informed decisions.
 
 Calling them informed decisions doesn't automatically make them
 informed decisions.

This is puerile.  Are you really so bored ?


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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 16:39 -0800, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 2/10/2015 3:28 PM, Always Learning wrote:
  3. The Russian's web site is that of a devote cyclist.
 
 oh, well, I'm glad that makes the copyright violation of stealing an 
 authors work OK in your book.

Another bored expert desperate for a modicum of excitement ?

You have absolutely no prima facie evidence to support your assertion.

I refer you to my posting dated Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:10:35 + which
includes, inter alia:-

Keith neither of us know whether or not the Russian man obtained his
PDF copy of the book lawfully.  In my book-publishing opinion, the PDF
appears to have originated from the book's publisher, so the original
source must have been *the* official source. Hence the book, in the PDF
version, must have been written by the official authors.

The existence of an alleged unpaid-for copy on a foreign web site can
not, in any sense whatsoever, denigrate, diminish nor deprecate the
official authors distinguished achievement.

There are poor people all around the world who enjoy computers
including Linux and whom would benefit from learning more about Linux.
Some who can read English sufficiently proficiently to benefit from the
book's text, may be too poor to afford the, to them in their country,
exorbitant Western price for an official copy.  Some publishers
recognise this reality and sell in third-world countries at a small
fraction of the Western price. In those circumstances selling PDFs for
an extremely low price may be the source of this particular PDF
especially as hardbacks and paperbacks could never economically be sold
as low as a very low cost official PDF copy.

FACT: Valeri's recommendation is, in my opinion, a useful source of
basic knowledge benefiting Centos users regardless whether that book in
printed on paper or is a virtual or an electronic book (i.e. PDF).

ANOTHER FACT: Linux Programmer's Reference, Petersen, Osborne
McGraw-Hill 1998 - ISBN 0-07-882587-3, which I obtained on 27 October
2000, is also a good good source of useful information. I've started
re-reading the 71 pages on BASH.  I never knew the first character on
the first line could be a space.

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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread Warren Young
 On Feb 10, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote:
 
 2. PDFs can be created by *NON-ADOBE* software.

And SWFs can be generated by non-Adobe software, and JARs can be generated by 
non-Oracle software.  What’s your point?  Is it that only Evil Corporations can 
create software that can be used for evil purposes?

Are you back on the “F/OSS software is invulnerable” bandwagon already, after 
being knocked off it a week or two back?

 PDF's (well most of
 them) can be opened by non-Adobe PDF-type software.

So what do you do when you get a PDF that *can’t* be opened by your non-Adobe 
PDF reader?  Do you discard it and go find another way to get the content, or 
do you grumble and fire up acroread?

 3. The Russian's web site is that of a devote cyclist.

I’m a devout cyclist, too, yet you’ve apparently decided I’m an enemy.

What makes this other guy unimpeachable?

I could care less that he’s Russian, or a cyclist.  What I care is that he’s 
purposely providing illicit goods.  That’s enough for me to distrust what he’s 
providing.

This Russian cyclist doesn’t even have to be the source of the evil.  Chances 
are that he didn’t buy this PDF from an official source and offer it directly.  
It’s far more likely that he’s just another step in the chain back to the 
original source.  Why are you trusting all of them, too?

 Warren, it is senseless you wasting your valuable time trying to make me
 do what you want.

Make you?  How am I going to accomplish that?  I have no power over you.

I just thought that, since you were Always Learning, you’d want someone to tell 
you when they saw you doing something that could compromise your security.
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Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-10 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/10/2015 4:58 PM, Always Learning wrote:

You have absolutely no prima facie evidence to support your assertion.


Seriously?   from page 5 of said PDF.

   Copyright © 2011 Pearson Education, Inc. All rights reserved.
   Printed in the United States of America. This publication is
   protected by copyright, and permission must be obtained from the
   publisher prior to any prohibited reproduction, storage in a
   retrieval system, or transmission in any form or by any means,
   electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or likewise




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