Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to use ndiswrapper caused a hell of trouble: no suspend and wl doesn't autoload
I've removed a file called ndiswrapper from /etc/modprobe.d, and now
wl loads automatically at boot.
KDE still, for some reason, doesn't detect that my laptop has ACPI
capabilites, although using pm-suspend works, and I can see battery
information in /sys/class/batt, etc. It seems unrelated to the driver
thingy, but the problem appear when I tried to replace drivers.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:52:19 +0300, Yoav Luft wrote:
No, I haven't. I've also checked all files in /etc/modprobe.d/,
/etc/modules.d/ and /etc/{modules,modprobe}.conf to see if it isn't
blacklisted. I have checked the rc files yet, but I haven't changed
anything. Just to be sure, I grepped for wl, and it's not
blacklisted. ndiswrapper does alias a lot of device names to itself in
modprobe.conf, although I removed it completely.
modprobe.conf is autogenerated from the contents of modprobe.d, and any
file installed in there with ndiswrapper won't have been removed when you
unmerged it. Check you haven't got a file in there setting up the
ndiswrapper aliases.
--
Neil Bothwick
In 1750 Issac Newton became discouraged when he fell up a flight of
stairs.
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
On Monday 12 April 2010 18:33:21 KH wrote: Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: [...] 2. when devs commit to ~arch, they tend to run ~arch on their test boxes. Issues are easy to spot and get fixed quickly. If you have a mixture of the two, then you have a combination that no-one but you is using, and it will not have been tested. The odds are good that you will often run into problems that are hard to trace (conflicting versions of packages). Running ~arch is actually more stable than a mixture as many folk have those packages and there are more eyeballs on it. Hi, someone always brings that up. I think it might be right when mixing packages randomly. But not everybody is doing that. Let's say: I only like to have personas for firefox. Unmasking firefox, xulrunner, nss and two more will not bring you in the problem mentioned. In general I believe this is true for any program as long as it doesn't need a general library or anything like that unmasked. What you say is true enough - I usually recommend folks unmask portage as well to get the automated blocker resolving featurs and sets. But it usually doesn't end there. Once users have a recent Firefox, they probably eventually unmask gnome as well, openrc, etc, etc and before you know it, you have a mess. So, in the rare case of a user who can discipline himself to say within the limits you describe, your advice is fine. But that's a theoretical situation :-) and the real one is quite different in my experience. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 09:09 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 12 April 2010 18:33:21 KH wrote: Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: So, in the rare case of a user who can discipline himself to say within the limits you describe, your advice is fine. But that's a theoretical situation :-) and the real one is quite different in my experience. This is exactly how I manage a number of gentoo systems - only unmasking versions I need. Ive actually never done a ~ system :) However, on the other side of the coin is the fact I have also never run a completely stable system either because I have never been able to get the task done a system was built for without at least a few unstable packages. For an extreme example, remember when X was masked for some security problem leaving stable with no X windows system (think it was back in the xfree86 days). You will quite often find that when trying to build even a basic system, you have to keyword a few packages or you get nowhere. And if its a complex 1000 pkg plus system, you are definitely going to have problems. One hint I can give for long term stability is to try and specify versions (either with = or ~) rather than just an open keywording. Otherwise it gets out of hand with many unmasked packages needed and needing maintaining on upgrades. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-04-12 12:23 PM, Dale wrote: +1 I been using the latest portage for a long time too. I don't recall any problems with it and the new features sure do help. If you keyword portage, you need to do the same for its friends. Mainly gentoolkit and eix. They seem to go together better. If you run one without the other, it can do some weird things. Ok, I'm seriously considering it... thanks. Are those really the only 3? Thanks again... Those are the most commonly used portage type packages that I use anyway. I know recently I had portage running on the latest then equery got a tummy ache and sort of puked at me. So, I had to get the latest for equery too. Then I needed the latest eix as well. It's been pretty much happy since then tho. It works fine tho. They seem to test portage pretty well before it hits the tree. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable
On Monday 12 April 2010 16:55:38 Paul Hartman wrote: I've been using portage unmasked for a very long time and don't remember having any portage-related problems. I'm sure there must be some (or else why is it still RC?) but for me the new features are worth the potential risk of using less-tested code. There was a problem with its preserved-rebuild feature for a while; several people reported here that they were running it and being told they still needed to run it again. As far as I know, that's the only thing preventing release of v2, and I think it's been fixed anyway. -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup
On Monday 12 April 2010 17:17:52 Florian Philipp wrote: Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. How do you take backups? -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to use ndiswrapper caused a hell of trouble: no suspend and wl doesn't autoload
On Monday 12 April 2010 23:07:56 Neil Bothwick wrote: In 1750 Issac Newton became discouraged ... I should think so - he died in 1727. -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup
Peter Humphrey writes: On Monday 12 April 2010 17:17:52 Florian Philipp wrote: Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. How do you take backups? I do my backups from the running system, not from a live-cd. I create an LVM snapshot of the partition, and backup with use rdiff-backup. his way it does not matter if the partition itself is being modified during the backup. Wonko
[gentoo-user] backups [was: Boot speedup]
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:44:31 +0200 Alex Schuster wrote: Peter Humphrey writes: On Monday 12 April 2010 17:17:52 Florian Philipp wrote: Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. How do you take backups? I do my backups from the running system, not from a live-cd. I create an LVM snapshot of the partition, and backup with use rdiff-backup. his way it does not matter if the partition itself is being modified during the backup. Wonko Backuppc works nicely here!
Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 01:17:07PM +0100, Mick wrote
You probably want to look at wpa_supplicant (in particular man
wpa_gui), or any other network manager type of application would do
(wicd, network manager, wifi-radar) which allows you to enable/disable
access points for automatic connection to them.
Alternatively, a less practical approach would be to set up
config_wlan0=( null )
in your /etc/conf.d/net.wlan0, which will not allow your wireless card
to obtain any address. Or, you can play with dhcpcd options like so:
dhcp_eth0=release nogateway nosendhost which means that it will not
bind to any wireless router as a gateway.
Thanks. that keeps things sane. Now let's start with simple stuff
first, manually connecting to an open access point at the public
library. Listed below are files /etc/conf.d/net, ~/bin/wi_open, and
/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.open. Assuming that I have /etc/sudoers
properly set up, is ~/bin/wi_open the correct incantation? It copies
the appropriate config to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and then starts and
connects wifi. I plan to have multiple config files, to cover different
situations.
/etc/conf.d/net
===
config_eth0=192.168.123.249 broadcast 192.168.123.255 netmask
255.255.255.248 mtu 1452
routes_eth0=(
default via 192.168.123.254 metric 2
192.168.123.248/29 via 192.168.123.254 metric 0
)
modules=( wpa_supplicant )
config_wlan0=( null )
wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext
wpa_timeout_wlan0=15
~/bin/wi_open
==
#!/bin/bash
sudo /bin/cp /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.open /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
sudo /sbin/modprobe ath5k
sudo /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 restart
sudo /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up
sudo /sbin/iwconfig wlan0 essid any channel auto
sudo /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -iwlan0
sudo /sbin/dhcpcd -C resolv.conf -C mtu wlan0
/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.open
=
# Connect to an open AP
network={
ssid=public library
key_mgmt=NONE
priority=9
}
network={
key_mgmt=NONE
priority=-9
}
--
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:39:31 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Thanks. that keeps things sane. Now let's start with simple stuff first, manually connecting to an open access point at the public library. Listed below are files /etc/conf.d/net, ~/bin/wi_open, and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.open. Assuming that I have /etc/sudoers properly set up, is ~/bin/wi_open the correct incantation? It copies the appropriate config to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and then starts and connects wifi. I plan to have multiple config files, to cover different situations. This sounds like an awful lot of work to do something that Wicd will handle almost automatically. -- Neil Bothwick Scrotum is a small planet near Uranus. True/False? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:30 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 09:09 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 12 April 2010 18:33:21 KH wrote: Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: So, in the rare case of a user who can discipline himself to say within the limits you describe, your advice is fine. But that's a theoretical situation :-) and the real one is quite different in my experience. This is exactly how I manage a number of gentoo systems - only unmasking versions I need. Ive actually never done a ~ system :) It's an experience. Like you in the past I've keyworded what I needed and it's worked great for 10 years. OK, so I've been pushing forward and finally I'm emerge -e @world clean. xfce still doesn't work right. It's in fact pretty unusable at the moment as it has no menus at all, but it's only a backup environment so I'm going to ignore that for the moment and build KDE which should be done in about 2 hours. Notes about what I think happened here: 1) I missed the message about running perl-cleaner so I had to do that. 2) I had a gcc build that didn't allow the profile to get set so emerge -1 gcc fixed that. 3) After that I tried emerge -e @system, emerge -e @world which failed with more perl issues, but the same package seemed to be part of @system and emerge -e @system was clean. A second pass at emerge -e @world failed the same way. Thinking back to the old days, and I know folks have negative opinions about this, I did emerge -e @system TWICE in a row, and then emerge -e @world worked. Go figure. I'm going to finish KDE and see if it works. If it does then cool, I'll stick with ~amd64. If not I'm deleting the partitions and starting over with stable. I've invested a day and a half in this experiment and my results are not leaving me comfortable. I need to the machine to work so I can use it starting this afternoon. Thanks, Mark Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says Fatal error at startup: No space left on device. The main screen where I select files shows there is space left. It shows about 1Mb or so left. I also have a much smaller slice for the backup. When I burn it, it gives a error that mkisofs crashed. Go figure. I'm pretty sure I am using the version that failed before. Then it seems that you only have a k3b bug that 1) prevents k3b from knowing that you dpn't have enough space 2) prevents k3b from correctly reporting the abort reason did cou contact the k3b people? Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
[gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?
Hi, while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 . Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, already? Many thank for some info, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?
On Dienstag 13 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 . Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, already? no
Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:13, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:39:31 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Thanks. that keeps things sane. Now let's start with simple stuff first, manually connecting to an open access point at the public library. Listed below are files /etc/conf.d/net, ~/bin/wi_open, and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.open. Assuming that I have /etc/sudoers properly set up, is ~/bin/wi_open the correct incantation? It copies the appropriate config to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and then starts and connects wifi. I plan to have multiple config files, to cover different situations. This sounds like an awful lot of work to do something that Wicd will handle almost automatically. Agreed. After many tries I've found that you really need a network manager like WICD with netbooks or notebooks. Mobile devices require an agile and easy interface for networking. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable
On 13 Apr, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 12 April 2010 16:55:38 Paul Hartman wrote: I've been using portage unmasked for a very long time and don't remember having any portage-related problems. I'm sure there must be some (or else why is it still RC?) but for me the new features are worth the potential risk of using less-tested code. There was a problem with its preserved-rebuild feature for a while; several people reported here that they were running it and being told they still needed to run it again. As far as I know, that's the only thing preventing release of v2, and I think it's been fixed anyway. No, I don't think so. Just recently, I had to unmerge then emerge wxpython since emerge @preserved-rebuild couldn't solve it itself. One more buglet. When doing emerge -j no of simultaneous processes - which is a very useful feature on a multicore machine - sometime a package just stops to build (which is reported as failing package). Just emerge it again. So, I'd say some new features are not ready, yet, but still very useful as they are. Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
[gentoo-user] xine problem
Hello, Xine has worked for me in the past. It has been a few months since I used it. Now it give these popup error messages: - xine engine error There is no input plugin available to handle dvd:/ Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesn't exist second popup error The source can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g. not disc in drive). (/dev/dvd) Well other players work just fine.? Permissions look fine on /dev/dvd: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Apr 5 22:33 /dev/dvd1 - hda lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Apr 5 22:33 /dev/dvdrw1 - hda I didnot see anything at bugs.gentoo.org ideas? James
Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions
On 13 April 2010 15:44, Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:13, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:39:31 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Thanks. that keeps things sane. Now let's start with simple stuff first, manually connecting to an open access point at the public library. Listed below are files /etc/conf.d/net, ~/bin/wi_open, and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.open. Assuming that I have /etc/sudoers properly set up, is ~/bin/wi_open the correct incantation? It copies the appropriate config to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and then starts and connects wifi. I plan to have multiple config files, to cover different situations. This sounds like an awful lot of work to do something that Wicd will handle almost automatically. Agreed. After many tries I've found that you really need a network manager like WICD with netbooks or notebooks. Mobile devices require an agile and easy interface for networking. For PCs you don't typically need anything more than the default Gentoo scripts, but for a laptop wicd, networkmanager and the like will do exactly what you need with no perceptible overhead and the benefit of notifications for when things start bobbing up and down. If you already have installed wpa_supplicant I recommend running wpa_gui and enabling disabling any interfaces you care to associate with. Then leave it running in the tooltray for quick access and notifications. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Notes about what I think happened here: 1) I missed the message about running perl-cleaner so I had to do that. 2) I had a gcc build that didn't allow the profile to get set so emerge -1 gcc fixed that. 3) After that I tried emerge -e @system, emerge -e @world which failed with more perl issues, but the same package seemed to be part of @system and emerge -e @system was clean. A second pass at emerge -e @world failed the same way. Thinking back to the old days, and I know folks have negative opinions about this, I did emerge -e @system TWICE in a row, and then emerge -e @world worked. Go figure. I'm going to finish KDE and see if it works. If it does then cool, I'll stick with ~amd64. If not I'm deleting the partitions and starting over with stable. I've invested a day and a half in this experiment and my results are not leaving me comfortable. I need to the machine to work so I can use it starting this afternoon. I think you've gotten through the hard part and it should hopefully work well from here. The gcc-config thing I have run into before after a new gcc version (unrelated to migrating from amd64 to ~amd64), but I don't think the ebuild tells you to do that...
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: OK, so I've been pushing forward and finally I'm emerge -e @world clean. xfce still doesn't work right. It's in fact pretty unusable at the moment as it has no menus at all, but it's only a backup environment so I'm going to ignore that for the moment and build KDE which should be done in about 2 hours. Double-check that xfce-base/xfdesktop package has the menu-plugin USE flag set (and also double-check that xfdesktop is running at all when you're logged into xfce). Run xfconf, maybe it needs to generate the configuration files, or try creating a new user and logging in as that to see if it's just your user's xfce config that is wacky for some reason. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Notes about what I think happened here: 1) I missed the message about running perl-cleaner so I had to do that. 2) I had a gcc build that didn't allow the profile to get set so emerge -1 gcc fixed that. 3) After that I tried emerge -e @system, emerge -e @world which failed with more perl issues, but the same package seemed to be part of @system and emerge -e @system was clean. A second pass at emerge -e @world failed the same way. Thinking back to the old days, and I know folks have negative opinions about this, I did emerge -e @system TWICE in a row, and then emerge -e @world worked. Go figure. I'm going to finish KDE and see if it works. If it does then cool, I'll stick with ~amd64. If not I'm deleting the partitions and starting over with stable. I've invested a day and a half in this experiment and my results are not leaving me comfortable. I need to the machine to work so I can use it starting this afternoon. I think you've gotten through the hard part and it should hopefully work well from here. The gcc-config thing I have run into before after a new gcc version (unrelated to migrating from amd64 to ~amd64), but I don't think the ebuild tells you to do that... Hi Paul, The KDE install completed although it did quit in the middle saying a 'make failed!'. I restarted the emerge and it finished clean the second time. The machine is now emerge -DuN @world clean and I'm writing you from within KDE. So good so far. One minor annoyance is that the task bar at the bottom is about 1/3 black on the left. Resolution is 1920x1080 so I'd guess about the first 800 pixels are painted the wrong color. The task bar still works, it just doesn't look right. This install is now running xorg-server-1.8 with all the latest drivers, but there was an announcement last night on LKML about 2.6.34_rc4 which had a number of ati driver improvements so I'll have to wait for someone to update vanilla-sources to support that. I'm currently running vanilla-2.6.34_rc3. I don't really want to deal with git-sources unless I need to. Comments? As this is a very usable environment I'll stick with it for now. However in parallel I'm doing to do a stable build on another partition of my RAID just in case I need to fall back to stable for some reason. Thanks for your help, as well as everyone else. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable
On Tuesday 13 April 2010 15:49:44 Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 13 Apr, Peter Humphrey wrote: As far as I know, that's the only thing preventing release of v2, and I think it's been fixed anyway. No, I don't think so. Just recently, I had to unmerge then emerge wxpython since emerge @preserved-rebuild couldn't solve it itself. Ah. I supposed that it had been fixed as I haven't seen it recently. One more buglet. When doing emerge -j no of simultaneous processes - which is a very useful feature on a multicore machine - sometime a package just stops to build (which is reported as failing package). Just emerge it again. I've noticed that too. I don't know where the problem lies, but as you say, it's easily evaded. So, I'd say some new features are not ready, yet, but still very useful as they are. Agreed. -- Rgds Peter.
[gentoo-user] Re: xine problem
On 04/13/2010 07:53 AM, James wrote: Hello, Xine has worked for me in the past. It has been a few months since I used it. Now it give these popup error messages: - xine engine error There is no input plugin available to handle dvd:/ Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesn't exist second popup error The source can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g. not disc in drive). (/dev/dvd) Well other players work just fine.? Is your css useflag set?
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup
Am 13.04.2010 00:00, schrieb Alex Schuster: Florian Philipp writes: Am 12.04.2010 11:02, schrieb Hinko Kocevar: Can boot be sped up even more? The fastest way to boot is not to boot at all. Just use Suspend2Disk or SuspendToRam. Take a look at TuxOnIce and hibernate-script. Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. I wonder why this seems to be working for everyone but me... I tried TuxOnIce for various times, with different systems, for years now, and still no real success. Well, it works sometimes on my desktop PC, but I have to issue the hibernate command up to ten times for this, and sometimes it still does not hibernate. And I also experience that trying to hibernate sometimes freezes the system, or has weird side effects. But luckily, at least hibernate-ram suddenly seems to work well, and I'm sticking to that now. Wonko Actually, at the moment, suspend2disk doesn't work for me either. But since suspend2ram works flawlessly (as did suspend2disk for some years), I couldn't be bothered to find out, why. In earlier years, the situation was vice versa for me. I suspect it's a driver issue. My hibernate script stops wifi and unloads the iwl3945 kernel module. That solved all issues in the past. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says Fatal error at startup: No space left on device. The main screen where I select files shows there is space left. It shows about 1Mb or so left. I also have a much smaller slice for the backup. When I burn it, it gives a error that mkisofs crashed. Go figure. I'm pretty sure I am using the version that failed before. Then it seems that you only have a k3b bug that 1) prevents k3b from knowing that you dpn't have enough space 2) prevents k3b from correctly reporting the abort reason did cou contact the k3b people? Jörg It is a different prob;em than before. First time I got this error. I'm going to install the version of cdrtools that was working and see if it works. Will post the result later today. I got to drive a tractor for a little while. Also worth noting, tkdvd doesn't work either. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Florian Philipp li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote: Am 13.04.2010 00:00, schrieb Alex Schuster: Florian Philipp writes: Am 12.04.2010 11:02, schrieb Hinko Kocevar: Can boot be sped up even more? The fastest way to boot is not to boot at all. Just use Suspend2Disk or SuspendToRam. Take a look at TuxOnIce and hibernate-script. Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. I wonder why this seems to be working for everyone but me... I tried TuxOnIce for various times, with different systems, for years now, and still no real success. Well, it works sometimes on my desktop PC, but I have to issue the hibernate command up to ten times for this, and sometimes it still does not hibernate. And I also experience that trying to hibernate sometimes freezes the system, or has weird side effects. But luckily, at least hibernate-ram suddenly seems to work well, and I'm sticking to that now. Wonko Actually, at the moment, suspend2disk doesn't work for me either. But since suspend2ram works flawlessly (as did suspend2disk for some years), I couldn't be bothered to find out, why. In earlier years, the situation was vice versa for me. I suspect it's a driver issue. My hibernate script stops wifi and unloads the iwl3945 kernel module. That solved all issues in the past. Sorry for asking a simple question but do you have a resume=foo in your kernel parameter in your boot loader? -- Nguyễn Bảo Ngọc http://www.facebook.com/pymaster
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
Mark Knecht writes: One minor annoyance is that the task bar at the bottom is about 1/3 black on the left. Resolution is 1920x1080 so I'd guess about the first 800 pixels are painted the wrong color. The task bar still works, it just doesn't look right. I think I have the same problem, although not all the time. I happens only sometimes after I run opengl Software like Quake3, or other games that change the graphics resolution. What sometimes works is to turn off compositing with Alt-Shift-F12 and on again. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions
On 13 Apr 2010, at 12:39, Walter Dnes wrote: ... I plan to have multiple config files, to cover different situations. You can have multiple networks specified in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and in /etc/conf.d/net. I think you can just specify the various SSIDs / credentials in wpa_supplicant.conf and if you don't want the adaptor just to get an IP address by DHCP then you can do that in /etc/conf.d/net Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Mark Knecht writes: One minor annoyance is that the task bar at the bottom is about 1/3 black on the left. Resolution is 1920x1080 so I'd guess about the first 800 pixels are painted the wrong color. The task bar still works, it just doesn't look right. I think I have the same problem, although not all the time. I happens only sometimes after I run opengl Software like Quake3, or other games that change the graphics resolution. What sometimes works is to turn off compositing with Alt-Shift-F12 and on again. Wonko Thanks. Seems I have this all the time in ~amd64. I didn't see it on (mostly) stable. (Stable system, stable KDE, mostly stable apps, ~amd64 xorg-server drivers) Alt-Shift-F12 isn't doing anything for me. In a few hours I'll have a second (and stable) install on the same system so I can boot into each and compare results. Until then at least ~amd64 is working well enough that I can do a little work. I'll report back when I know anything new. Again, thanks for the ideas. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup
Am 13.04.2010 19:29, schrieb Ngoc Nguyen Bao: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Florian Philipp li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote: Am 13.04.2010 00:00, schrieb Alex Schuster: Florian Philipp writes: Am 12.04.2010 11:02, schrieb Hinko Kocevar: Can boot be sped up even more? The fastest way to boot is not to boot at all. Just use Suspend2Disk or SuspendToRam. Take a look at TuxOnIce and hibernate-script. Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. I wonder why this seems to be working for everyone but me... I tried TuxOnIce for various times, with different systems, for years now, and still no real success. Well, it works sometimes on my desktop PC, but I have to issue the hibernate command up to ten times for this, and sometimes it still does not hibernate. And I also experience that trying to hibernate sometimes freezes the system, or has weird side effects. But luckily, at least hibernate-ram suddenly seems to work well, and I'm sticking to that now. Wonko Actually, at the moment, suspend2disk doesn't work for me either. But since suspend2ram works flawlessly (as did suspend2disk for some years), I couldn't be bothered to find out, why. In earlier years, the situation was vice versa for me. I suspect it's a driver issue. My hibernate script stops wifi and unloads the iwl3945 kernel module. That solved all issues in the past. Sorry for asking a simple question but do you have a resume=foo in your kernel parameter in your boot loader? Yes: resume=swap:/dev/mapper/swap For initializing the mapping (luks_crypt on LVM) I use a custom initrd. With resume=swap:/dev/sda2 or such alike it should work out of the box when everything is compiled in. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get a DVD to burn.
Dale wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: On the screen that usually shows the progress, it says Fatal error at startup: No space left on device. The main screen where I select files shows there is space left. It shows about 1Mb or so left. I also have a much smaller slice for the backup. When I burn it, it gives a error that mkisofs crashed. Go figure. I'm pretty sure I am using the version that failed before. Then it seems that you only have a k3b bug that 1)prevents k3b from knowing that you dpn't have enough space 2)prevents k3b from correctly reporting the abort reason did cou contact the k3b people? Jörg It is a different prob;em than before. First time I got this error. I'm going to install the version of cdrtools that was working and see if it works. Will post the result later today. I got to drive a tractor for a little while. Also worth noting, tkdvd doesn't work either. Dale :-) :-) I tried a older version of k3b and different versions of cdrtools with no change. Also tkdvd doesn't work either. Slightly different error but still doesn't burn. Posted on kde mailing list to see if this is some known issues with k3b. Maybe hardware? Maybe I am not holding my mouth right when I click burn? Dale :-) :-) P. S. Also headed to newegg to see what a new burner costs. Jörg, do you have any recommendations on a really good burner that has few issues with software? I hear that some have software issues and figure I may as well avoid that if I need a new one.
[gentoo-user] Re: xine problem
walt w41ter at gmail.com writes: - xine engine error Is your css useflag set? yes, globally in make.conf for xine-lib: Installed versions: 1.1.17(1)(12:04:26 04/12/10)(X a52 aac aalib alsa css dts esd flac gnome gtk imagemagick ipv6 jack libcaca mad mng modplug musepack nls opengl oss sdl theora truetype v4l vcd vorbis xcb xv -altivec -directfb -dxr3 -fbcon -mmap -pulseaudio -real -samba -speex -vidix -vis -wavpack -win32codecs -xinerama -xvmc) ???
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 04:13:40PM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6
it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 .
Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, already?
Many thank for some info,
Helmut.
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There are some in overlays it would seem:
* x11-drivers/ati-drivers
Available versions:
(0) [M](~)8.522-r1[2] [M]8.552-r2 [M](~)8.593 [M](~)8.602[3]
[M](~)8.612[3] [M](~)9.5[3]
(1) [M](~)8.721 9.9-r2 9.10 9.11 (~)10.1 (~)10.2 (~)10.2[4] (~)10.3
(~)10.4_beta[1]
{acpi debug kernel_linux +modules multilib qt4}
Homepage:http://www.ati.com
Description: Ati precompiled drivers for r600 (HD Series) and
newer chipsets
[1] arcon layman/arcon
[2] lordvan layman/lordvan
[3] pentoo layman/pentoo
[4] sabayon layman/sabayon
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[gentoo-user] Good news for the HAL haters
Saw this message from an emerge today: * Messages for package x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.0: * Usage of hal is strongly discouraged. Please migrate to udev. * From next major release on the hal support will be fully disabled. * Both hal and udev flags are enabled. * Enabling only udev!
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?
On Tuesday 13 April 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 13 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 . Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, already? no well you could use the git (-) version works perfectly here. you need to unmask it in /etc/portage/package.unmask Rudmer
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Peter Humphrey writes: On Monday 12 April 2010 17:17:52 Florian Philipp wrote: Unless something is broken, I hardly ever reboot. How do you take backups? I do my backups from the running system, not from a live-cd. I create an LVM snapshot of the partition, and backup with use rdiff-backup. his way it does not matter if the partition itself is being modified during the backup. Wonko Is there a good doc to read on this sort of setup? It sounds like what I was thinking I might need. This new system I built has RAID1 for Gentoo and backing up data from a RAID0 in the same box. The RAID0 is for running multiple VMs. The VMs are likely to be running 24/7 and I want to catch backups of them pretty often, hourly possibly, and put them on the RAID1. I then have another RAID1 machine where I'll backup everything on this RAID1. The deal is I cannot stop the VMs from doing their work so I need some way of getting them backed up while they are live. - Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: Good news for the HAL haters
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Saw this message from an emerge today: * Messages for package x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.0: * Usage of hal is strongly discouraged. Please migrate to udev. * From next major release on the hal support will be fully disabled. * Both hal and udev flags are enabled. * Enabling only udev! Also here is a Gentoo Forums post with good info about transitioning: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-820551-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup
Am Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:56:09 +0200 schrieb Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com: On 12. 4. 2010 14:36, Hinko Kocevar wrote: [SNIP] Shift to baselayout2 was really simple and it works like charm. Actually, I wonder why is baselayout2 still ~x86/~amd64? Seems quite stable to me, never had any problem with it in the last year... For what it's worth, there's bug #295613 [TRACKER] openrc/baselayout2 stabilization. Jarry HTH -- Marc Joliet -- Lt. Frank Drebin: It's true what they say: cops and women don't mix. Like eating a spoonful of Drāno; sure, it'll clean you out, but it'll leave you hollow inside. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?
On Tuesday 13 April 2010, Rudmer van Dijk wrote: On Tuesday 13 April 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 13 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 . Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, already? no well you could use the git (-) version works perfectly here. you need to unmask it in /etc/portage/package.unmask and you can find it in the x11 overlay... Rudmer
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-driver for xorg-1.8.0 ?
On Dienstag 13 April 2010, Rudmer van Dijk wrote: On Tuesday 13 April 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 13 April 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, while ati-drivers-8.721 is working just fine with xorg-server-1.7.6 it is blocked by the recent xorg-server-1.8.0 . Is there a more recent version of the ati-drivers, already? no well you could use the git (-) version works perfectly here. you need to unmask it in /etc/portage/package.unmask Rudmer there is no git version for ati drivers and there is currently no ati driver supporting 1.8. Luckily nothing is lost - 1.8 is in a bad state - even most of Xorg's own drivers don't support it yet.
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot speedup
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:06:16 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: The deal is I cannot stop the VMs from doing their work so I need some way of getting them backed up while they are live. Which VMware product are you using? Workstation can take snapshots of running VMs. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 21: Now, then ... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Good news for the HAL haters
On 04/13/2010 01:34 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: Saw this message from an emerge today: * Messages for package x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.0: * Usage of hal is strongly discouraged. Please migrate to udev. * From next major release on the hal support will be fully disabled. * Both hal and udev flags are enabled. * Enabling only udev! Well, truthfully, I don't have anything useful to add. I just wanted to reply before Dale does :p I updated my ~amd64 machine this morning while simultaneously switching to the nouveau nVidia driver and had no problems -- quite a shock for me. I disabled the hal useflag only for xorg-server just to be cautious, and the only error message I see in my Xorg log is a complaint that no input driver could be detected for the mouse -- and then udev proceeded to find and use the mouse perfectly. Dunno what that error message is about. I see in a different thread that Volker says xorg-server-1.8 is not ready for Prime Time where drivers are concerned. I may try downgrading back to 1.7.nn tomorrow if I have some spare time.
Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 04:03:08PM +0100, Mick wrote For PCs you don't typically need anything more than the default Gentoo scripts, but for a laptop wicd, networkmanager and the like will do exactly what you need with no perceptible overhead and the benefit of notifications for when things start bobbing up and down. If you already have installed wpa_supplicant I recommend running wpa_gui and enabling disabling any interfaces you care to associate with. Then leave it running in the tooltray for quick access and notifications. I've got hal and dbus masked out (pam too), so wicd and networkmanager are out of the question. wpa_gui is a Qt frontend to wpa_cli. The qt4 *TARBALL* is approx 150 megabytes. Disk space is not the problem, but loading unnecessary libs on an underpowered memory-constrained netbook is an issue. Besides, I can always... [aa1][root][~] modprobe ath5k [aa1][root][~] /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 restart * Stopping wlan0 * Bringing down wlan0 * Shutting down wlan0 ... [ ok ] * Stopping wpa_cli on wlan0 ...[ ok ] * Stopping wpa_supplicant on wlan0 ... [ ok ] * Starting wlan0 * Starting wpa_supplicant on wlan0 ... [ !! ] [aa1][root][~] iwconfig wlan0 essid example channel auto [aa1][root][~] ifconfig wlan0 up [aa1][root][~] iwlist wlan0 scan | grep ESSID ESSID:KGB zone** keep OFF** ESSID:BELL140 ESSID:MyLinksys ESSID:BELL325 ESSID:charmins family network 20 ESSID:and ESSID:linksys ESSID:default ESSID:Kooshman ESSID:SONA2 ESSID:BELL628 ESSID:MyDlink ESSID:A7770 Fortunately, I'm an honest guy, and I choose to confine my testing of open system access to places like the Toronto Public Library, where they advertise it... http://www.torontopubliclibrary.ca/spe_ser_wir.jsp A little bit of scripting, plus appropriate entries in /etc/sudoers, and I'm all set. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
[gentoo-user] vde_switch cannot create tap
hi, i followed the instructions on http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/KVM_with_VDE to configure my system. the kvm and tun modules loaded fine. but when i run vde_switch --numports 4 --hub --mod 777 --group users --tap tap0, it will not return until i press ctrl+d, and after that, the tap0 interface is not created. there's no error messages. how can i fix this? -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
