[abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Hello, with very little effort, abcm2ps could typeset scores using Renaissance-style notes; that is, those fancy square or diamond-shaped notes. To this end, we'd need two things: 1) disable the proportional spacing of notes. This probably calls for a new abcm2ps %%command and/or command-line option, which I cannot implement. I'm sure that Jean-François would be kind as usual :-) 2) new note shapes, which I could easily write as new PostScript routines. As a matter of fact, I don't have much time and I would't start this new task unless someone's interested. So, my question is: does anybody want this feature? Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Are shapenotes Renaissance? I thought they went back to plainchant notation. (this is probably why I only barely passed Music history last sem and prolly won't this sem) Guido Gonzato wrote: Hello, with very little effort, abcm2ps could typeset scores using Renaissance-style notes; that is, those fancy square or diamond-shaped notes. To this end, we'd need two things: 1) disable the proportional spacing of notes. This probably calls for a new abcm2ps %%command and/or command-line option, which I cannot implement. I'm sure that Jean-François would be kind as usual :-) 2) new note shapes, which I could easily write as new PostScript routines. As a matter of fact, I don't have much time and I would't start this new task unless someone's interested. So, my question is: does anybody want this feature? Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Christian Marcus Cepel (`-''-/).___..--''`-._ [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq:12384980 `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) 371 CrownPoint Columbia 65203-2202 (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' w573.882.8309 h443.8676 m268.7533 _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' Computer Support Specialist, Sr. (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' School of Information Science Learning Technologies, College of Ed, University of Missouri - Columbia * And the wrens have returned are nesting *In the hollow of that oak where his heart once had been *And he lifts his arms in a blessing *For being born again. --Rich Mullins To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Christian M. Cepel wrote: Are shapenotes Renaissance? I thought they went back to plainchant notation. (this is probably why I only barely passed Music history last sem and prolly won't this sem) AFAIK, plain chant used several types of neumes, i.e. the square neumes on a four-line staff still used for Gregorian chant. I came across many examples of Renaissance sheet music written with shapenotes. I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that music was written that way. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Christian M. Cepel wrote: Are shapenotes Renaissance? I thought they went back to plainchant notation. (this is probably why I only barely passed Music history last sem and prolly won't this sem) Well, square- and diamond-shaped notes are certainly used in Gregorian notation, but this notation also groups notes together into neumes, so it's a little more complicated than just setting the note shapes. (It can be done automatically though, as BarFly does.) Shape notes have probably been used in many systems throughout history, the best-known being that used in the Sacred Harp, where the shape used for the note head indicates its scale position, making it easier for semi-literate singers to sight-read. Again, this could be done automatically as a program option, which would not require any change to the abc. MusicXML lets you specify note shapes on an individual basis, which would not be a good idea in abc as it would make the abc unreadable. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Neumes!!! That was the word I was looking for. Thank you! I couldn't for the life of me remember. Mine was a stupid question. Since you're both well versed on music history (in the western tradition anyways), you'll know why I'm having trouble trying to persuade our first daughter (assuming we have one) 'Talea'. Of course if we had quintuplets and two of them were siamese, I spoze we could name the second one 'calor' and the pair 'isorhythmic motet'. Ironically, she's not having any of it. She likes the name Talea, but that's as far as she'll go :) //Christian Phil Taylor wrote: Christian M. Cepel wrote: Are shapenotes Renaissance? I thought they went back to plainchant notation. (this is probably why I only barely passed Music history last sem and prolly won't this sem) Well, square- and diamond-shaped notes are certainly used in Gregorian notation, but this notation also groups notes together into neumes, so it's a little more complicated than just setting the note shapes. (It can be done automatically though, as BarFly does.) Shape notes have probably been used in many systems throughout history, the best-known being that used in the Sacred Harp, where the shape used for the note head indicates its scale position, making it easier for semi-literate singers to sight-read. Again, this could be done automatically as a program option, which would not require any change to the abc. MusicXML lets you specify note shapes on an individual basis, which would not be a good idea in abc as it would make the abc unreadable. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christian Marcus Cepel (`-''-/).___..--''`-._ [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq:12384980 `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) 371 CrownPoint Columbia 65203-2202 (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' w573.882.8309 h443.8676 m268.7533 _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' Computer Support Specialist, Sr. (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' School of Information Science Learning Technologies, College of Ed, University of Missouri - Columbia * And the wrens have returned are nesting *In the hollow of that oak where his heart once had been *And he lifts his arms in a blessing *For being born again. --Rich Mullins To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Sorry to double post, but I realized that my post made no sense. That was supposed to read Since you're both well versed on music history (in the western tradition anyways), you'll know why I'm having trouble trying to persuade MY WIFE TO NAME our first daughter (assuming we have one) 'Talea'. Of course if we had quintuplets and two of them were siamese, I spoze we could name the second one 'calor' and the pair 'isorhythmic motet'. Ironically, she's not having any of it. She likes the name Talea, but that's as far as she'll go :) Now the pronouns have antecedents. Don't things make much more sense? //Christian To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
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Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Guido Gonzato writes, with very little effort, abcm2ps could typeset scores using Renaissance-style notes; that is, those fancy square or diamond-shaped notes. To this end, we'd need two things: [...] 2) new note shapes, which I could easily write as new PostScript routines. Is there documentation that explains abc2ps fonts and how to write them, or is this something one should learn by reading the code? I have use for a couple of obscure symbols (they wouldn't be of much interest to anybody whose instruments don't cran or play ghost D's) and I'd thought of adding them to my own copy. If, of course, there is a good way to get abc2ps to put them where they should go. Cheers, John Walsh To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
