Re: Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Hello These look great. If you publish the postscript code I will include the fonts (the noteheads and clefs, anyway) in iabc. as said on the website, the postscript fonts are published : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/renaiss_music_font.zip ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
These look great. If you publish the postscript code I will include the fonts (the noteheads and clefs, anyway) in iabc. Regards, Aaron To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
I've already converted them to postscript, thanks PfaEdit. I tried to replace the fonts used in the source code of Abcm2ps, for getting 2 different binaries. As explained on my site, the exported fonts (by PfaEdit) where different in the definition from the postscript code used in Abcm2ps JF Moine told be it would be better to use the %%postscript and %%deco command directly in the abc source, and provided me some help for this. I managed to do this for the quarter notes symbols I've created later (see http://anamnese.online.fr/iran/persian_music.html), I've also made the more western symbol used in some bretonian music for ex. for quarter notes used in voices, it's in the font definition but I haven't made a special page for this yet. So far I haven't worked again on the renaissance fonts, all is almost done, but the huge work will be for the font definition (maybe it's not that difficult). Since I've created those notes PfaEdit seems to have got several improvement, maybe also in export fct. So I'll probably work more on all this soon (why not today... ?) Hello, it's still a work in progress, but you can look at : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/renaissance_fonts.html that's _very_ nice - if you need assistance converting your existing font into PostScript, feel free to contact me. ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Forgeot Eric wrote: Hello, it's still a work in progress, but you can look at : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/renaissance_fonts.html that's _very_ nice - if you need assistance converting your existing font into PostScript, feel free to contact me. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, John Walsh wrote: Is there documentation that explains abc2ps fonts and how to write them, or is this something one should learn by reading the code? I I'm going to release the English version of my manual today. It contains a section about using non-standard fonts with abcm2ps (many thanks to Eric Forgeot for the information he sent me). Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Hello, with very little effort, abcm2ps could typeset scores using Renaissance-style notes; that is, those fancy square or diamond-shaped notes. To this end, we'd need two things: 1) disable the proportional spacing of notes. This probably calls for a new abcm2ps %%command and/or command-line option, which I cannot implement. I'm sure that Jean-François would be kind as usual :-) 2) new note shapes, which I could easily write as new PostScript routines. As a matter of fact, I don't have much time and I would't start this new task unless someone's interested. So, my question is: does anybody want this feature? Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Are shapenotes Renaissance? I thought they went back to plainchant notation. (this is probably why I only barely passed Music history last sem and prolly won't this sem) Guido Gonzato wrote: Hello, with very little effort, abcm2ps could typeset scores using Renaissance-style notes; that is, those fancy square or diamond-shaped notes. To this end, we'd need two things: 1) disable the proportional spacing of notes. This probably calls for a new abcm2ps %%command and/or command-line option, which I cannot implement. I'm sure that Jean-François would be kind as usual :-) 2) new note shapes, which I could easily write as new PostScript routines. As a matter of fact, I don't have much time and I would't start this new task unless someone's interested. So, my question is: does anybody want this feature? Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Christian Marcus Cepel (`-''-/).___..--''`-._ [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq:12384980 `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) 371 CrownPoint Columbia 65203-2202 (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' w573.882.8309 h443.8676 m268.7533 _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' Computer Support Specialist, Sr. (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' School of Information Science Learning Technologies, College of Ed, University of Missouri - Columbia * And the wrens have returned are nesting *In the hollow of that oak where his heart once had been *And he lifts his arms in a blessing *For being born again. --Rich Mullins To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Christian M. Cepel wrote: Are shapenotes Renaissance? I thought they went back to plainchant notation. (this is probably why I only barely passed Music history last sem and prolly won't this sem) AFAIK, plain chant used several types of neumes, i.e. the square neumes on a four-line staff still used for Gregorian chant. I came across many examples of Renaissance sheet music written with shapenotes. I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that music was written that way. Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Christian M. Cepel wrote: Are shapenotes Renaissance? I thought they went back to plainchant notation. (this is probably why I only barely passed Music history last sem and prolly won't this sem) Well, square- and diamond-shaped notes are certainly used in Gregorian notation, but this notation also groups notes together into neumes, so it's a little more complicated than just setting the note shapes. (It can be done automatically though, as BarFly does.) Shape notes have probably been used in many systems throughout history, the best-known being that used in the Sacred Harp, where the shape used for the note head indicates its scale position, making it easier for semi-literate singers to sight-read. Again, this could be done automatically as a program option, which would not require any change to the abc. MusicXML lets you specify note shapes on an individual basis, which would not be a good idea in abc as it would make the abc unreadable. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Neumes!!! That was the word I was looking for. Thank you! I couldn't for the life of me remember. Mine was a stupid question. Since you're both well versed on music history (in the western tradition anyways), you'll know why I'm having trouble trying to persuade our first daughter (assuming we have one) 'Talea'. Of course if we had quintuplets and two of them were siamese, I spoze we could name the second one 'calor' and the pair 'isorhythmic motet'. Ironically, she's not having any of it. She likes the name Talea, but that's as far as she'll go :) //Christian Phil Taylor wrote: Christian M. Cepel wrote: Are shapenotes Renaissance? I thought they went back to plainchant notation. (this is probably why I only barely passed Music history last sem and prolly won't this sem) Well, square- and diamond-shaped notes are certainly used in Gregorian notation, but this notation also groups notes together into neumes, so it's a little more complicated than just setting the note shapes. (It can be done automatically though, as BarFly does.) Shape notes have probably been used in many systems throughout history, the best-known being that used in the Sacred Harp, where the shape used for the note head indicates its scale position, making it easier for semi-literate singers to sight-read. Again, this could be done automatically as a program option, which would not require any change to the abc. MusicXML lets you specify note shapes on an individual basis, which would not be a good idea in abc as it would make the abc unreadable. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christian Marcus Cepel (`-''-/).___..--''`-._ [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq:12384980 `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) 371 CrownPoint Columbia 65203-2202 (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' w573.882.8309 h443.8676 m268.7533 _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' Computer Support Specialist, Sr. (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' School of Information Science Learning Technologies, College of Ed, University of Missouri - Columbia * And the wrens have returned are nesting *In the hollow of that oak where his heart once had been *And he lifts his arms in a blessing *For being born again. --Rich Mullins To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Sorry to double post, but I realized that my post made no sense. That was supposed to read Since you're both well versed on music history (in the western tradition anyways), you'll know why I'm having trouble trying to persuade MY WIFE TO NAME our first daughter (assuming we have one) 'Talea'. Of course if we had quintuplets and two of them were siamese, I spoze we could name the second one 'calor' and the pair 'isorhythmic motet'. Ironically, she's not having any of it. She likes the name Talea, but that's as far as she'll go :) Now the pronouns have antecedents. Don't things make much more sense? //Christian To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Hello, it's still a work in progress, but you can look at : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/renaissance_fonts.html ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Renaissance notes, anyone?
Guido Gonzato writes, with very little effort, abcm2ps could typeset scores using Renaissance-style notes; that is, those fancy square or diamond-shaped notes. To this end, we'd need two things: [...] 2) new note shapes, which I could easily write as new PostScript routines. Is there documentation that explains abc2ps fonts and how to write them, or is this something one should learn by reading the code? I have use for a couple of obscure symbols (they wouldn't be of much interest to anybody whose instruments don't cran or play ghost D's) and I'd thought of adding them to my own copy. If, of course, there is a good way to get abc2ps to put them where they should go. Cheers, John Walsh To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
