Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
Has anyone mentioned Noteworthy Composer? It's cheap and simple... Sometimes too simple. On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Don Parrish-Bell wrote: Here's what I would hope to have (and working properly without an argument!): 1. You can pre-set the key signature, time signature and tempo. 2. You can easily setup multiple staffs 3. You can click on a note value from a menu or toolbar and place it right where you want it. 4. You can double-click that note and change its pitch or duration by either keystrokes or by selecting a new duration (pitch changed by moving the note with the mouse. 5. You can enter notes next to, before on top of (i. e. chords) without any argument or user-friendly intervention. 6. You can save, cut paste, etc. ... all the usual editing features. 7. You can playback at any time without disturbing what you have. 8. The program is allowed to adjust note spacing for best appearance, but gives you the option of altering that to suit your own tastes. There is a program, less known than Finale or Sibelius, and cheaper, that I like very much. It is called Score Perfect Pro, it is made in Germany, and it pretty much does all the things you say you want, and it is very good. Take a look at http://www.scoretec.de I have used it for years (in fact I still do) on my old Atari, but nowadays it is a Windows program. On my linux box I use abcm2ps and also mup (www.arkkra.com). Very powerfull command line and text based apps with very good looking score output. -- Martin Tarenskeen To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christian Marcus Cepel | And the wrens have returned [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq:12384980 | are nesting; In the hollow of 371 Crown Point, Columbia, MO | that oak where his heart once 65203-2202 573.999.2370 | had been; And he lifts up his Computer Support Specialist, Sr. | arms in a blessing; For being University of Missouri - Columbia | born again. --Rich Mullins To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Don Parrish-Bell wrote: Here's what I would hope to have (and working properly without an argument!): 1. You can pre-set the key signature, time signature and tempo. 2. You can easily setup multiple staffs 3. You can click on a note value from a menu or toolbar and place it right where you want it. 4. You can double-click that note and change its pitch or duration by either keystrokes or by selecting a new duration (pitch changed by moving the note with the mouse. 5. You can enter notes next to, before on top of (i. e. chords) without any argument or user-friendly intervention. 6. You can save, cut paste, etc. ... all the usual editing features. 7. You can playback at any time without disturbing what you have. 8. The program is allowed to adjust note spacing for best appearance, but gives you the option of altering that to suit your own tastes. There is a program, less known than Finale or Sibelius, and cheaper, that I like very much. It is called Score Perfect Pro, it is made in Germany, and it pretty much does all the things you say you want, and it is very good. Take a look at http://www.scoretec.de I have used it for years (in fact I still do) on my old Atari, but nowadays it is a Windows program. On my linux box I use abcm2ps and also mup (www.arkkra.com). Very powerfull command line and text based apps with very good looking score output. -- Martin Tarenskeen To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don Parrish-Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes No offense, Bernard, but $170.00 is more than I paid for Sibelius G7. I do like that you said it never argues with you ... definitely something in its favor! Then I don't know where you got your Sibelius from. The current UK price is 599 pounds, around $1100: or with discounts of around 25% is the best you can find. Or is the G7 some sort of cut down version which I've not heard of? Any chance you or a representative will be at Winter NAMM in Anaheim this year? No, sorry. A 2-person family operation precludes overseas shows. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
Yes, G7 is geared towards guitar and costs around $100.00 here. The full-blown version of Sibelius is around $600.00 here, I think, but they offer 50% off for music educators. I am SO thankful I didn't go for the full-blown version! Seems ridiculous to charge that much more for something that you download off of the web! And even shipping a CD and manual can't be that much more can it? No wonder so many of you in the UK are developing your own software! Then I don't know where you got your Sibelius from. The current UK price is 599 pounds, around $1100: or with discounts of around 25% is the best you can find. Or is the G7 some sort of cut down version which I've not heard of? Any chance you or a representative will be at Winter NAMM in Anaheim this year? That's too bad. NAMM is an amazing event ... Toyland for musicians! No, sorry. A 2-person family operation precludes overseas shows. BTW I did try to download your eval. version but it seemed to crash half-way through. I'm not sure if that was a problem on your end or ours. I will try again later. thanks for all your help! Don To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
Have you tried my program HARMONY? If so, what does it not do, that you need? Neil Jennings www.greenhedges.com Don Parrish-Bell wrote: I have played a bit with Harmony Assistant and it does indeed look promising ... It's author wants $70.00 for it, which is probably not too bad, but I hate to jump into another program without even knowing how its printed output will look. The eval. version is very wounded can't save, can't print. I can understand they don't want to give it all away, but that is how I got stuck with G7. Sibelius' demo looks good, but only after buying and working with it a bit have I found out how much I hate it! Today's feature, for example I have a simple piece of music that's in 4/4. The first measure has a dotted quarter note, then an eight note, another dotted quarter and an eighth note. G7 lets me place the dotted quarter, fights, but ultimately allows entering the 1st eight note. It allows me to place the next dotted quarter, but then deletes the dot when I enter the last eighth note. Now, I'm assuming that my arithmetic (and that of the original author of the 16th century piece) is correct ... that a dotted quarter = 3 eighth notes, 2 of those make up 6 possible eighth note spots and 2 eighth notes finish it off for a complete measure without any rests. G7 also has this weird ghost-note thing that once it puts those in you can't delete them. (I'm really looking forward to a little discussion with those people at NAMM this year!). Don At 03:32 AM 11/17/2004, you wrote: From: Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] The OP wanted graphical input. Not many abc programs will do that - offhand I can only think of MUSE, which is very out of date and whose author is now sadly deceased. Harmony Assistant would be worth a try as a program to match his requirements. http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/harmony.htm Jon To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
Got it installed and gave it a quick go. Here's what I've found so far: 1. Can't seem to specify the key before you start. 2. Transpose seems to cause an error unless there are some notes placed. Once a few notes were placed, it seemed to ignore the transpose operation. 3. Note entry is clumsy ... score starts with all rests then you have to right-click on a rest and change it to a note. 4. Doesn't seem like you can move notes with the mouse ... had to change pitch with the right-click method. Granted this is only with a 10 minute session, so I'm probably not up to speed on some of the more salient features. Here's what I would hope to have (and working properly without an argument!): 1. You can pre-set the key signature, time signature and tempo. 2. You can easily setup multiple staffs 3. You can click on a note value from a menu or toolbar and place it right where you want it. 4. You can double-click that note and change its pitch or duration by either keystrokes or by selecting a new duration (pitch changed by moving the note with the mouse. 5. You can enter notes next to, before on top of (i. e. chords) without any argument or user-friendly intervention. 6. You can save, cut paste, etc. ... all the usual editing features. 7. You can playback at any time without disturbing what you have. 8. The program is allowed to adjust note spacing for best appearance, but gives you the option of altering that to suit your own tastes. Do I ask too much? The $20.00 MusicTime program that I got several years back seemed to do all of this ... not without a few quirks here and there though. My short chat with Laurie was about MusicTime. He told me that he started with that MusicTime program when developing his MUSE program. Don At 11:03 AM 11/30/2004, you wrote: Have you tried my program HARMONY? If so, what does it not do, that you need? Neil Jennings www.greenhedges.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
Hi, Yes, there are a few things you can do. a) Specify 0 bars on the New FIle form, then it doesn't fill with rests. You can then drag and drop new notes which are added at the end of the score by default b) Edit the key using the mouse menu. Maybe I can add this to the new file form c) Agreed, you can't move notes. That is REAL heavyweight programming. d) To set multiple staffs, you have to add voices, and then use Open Score mode. This is necessary because of the need to keep sounds in sync with score e) to place a note where you want it, drag from the toobar onto an existing note. It will be placed after it. f) You can play back at any time - try it g) Copy, cut and paste DO work if notes are selected first h) You can adjust spacing, by inserting special commands, but these have to be added in text edit mode. Hope this helps, and I can always make improvements if possible Neil Don Parrish-Bell wrote: Got it installed and gave it a quick go. Here's what I've found so far: 1. Can't seem to specify the key before you start. 2. Transpose seems to cause an error unless there are some notes placed. Once a few notes were placed, it seemed to ignore the transpose operation. 3. Note entry is clumsy ... score starts with all rests then you have to right-click on a rest and change it to a note. 4. Doesn't seem like you can move notes with the mouse ... had to change pitch with the right-click method. Granted this is only with a 10 minute session, so I'm probably not up to speed on some of the more salient features. Here's what I would hope to have (and working properly without an argument!): 1. You can pre-set the key signature, time signature and tempo. 2. You can easily setup multiple staffs 3. You can click on a note value from a menu or toolbar and place it right where you want it. 4. You can double-click that note and change its pitch or duration by either keystrokes or by selecting a new duration (pitch changed by moving the note with the mouse. 5. You can enter notes next to, before on top of (i. e. chords) without any argument or user-friendly intervention. 6. You can save, cut paste, etc. ... all the usual editing features. 7. You can playback at any time without disturbing what you have. 8. The program is allowed to adjust note spacing for best appearance, but gives you the option of altering that to suit your own tastes. Do I ask too much? The $20.00 MusicTime program that I got several years back seemed to do all of this ... not without a few quirks here and there though. My short chat with Laurie was about MusicTime. He told me that he started with that MusicTime program when developing his MUSE program. Don At 11:03 AM 11/30/2004, you wrote: Have you tried my program HARMONY? If so, what does it not do, that you need? Neil Jennings www.greenhedges.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
You may have a try with MusiCAD 3.0 beta. It uses abc as its 'second language' for import/export and adheres (more or less) to the 2.0 draft spec. see http://www.musicad.com for more info and download. Arent To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
I have played a bit with Harmony Assistant and it does indeed look promising ... It's author wants $70.00 for it, which is probably not too bad, but I hate to jump into another program without even knowing how its printed output will look. The eval. version is very wounded can't save, can't print. I can understand they don't want to give it all away, but that is how I got stuck with G7. Sibelius' demo looks good, but only after buying and working with it a bit have I found out how much I hate it! Today's feature, for example I have a simple piece of music that's in 4/4. The first measure has a dotted quarter note, then an eight note, another dotted quarter and an eighth note. G7 lets me place the dotted quarter, fights, but ultimately allows entering the 1st eight note. It allows me to place the next dotted quarter, but then deletes the dot when I enter the last eighth note. Now, I'm assuming that my arithmetic (and that of the original author of the 16th century piece) is correct ... that a dotted quarter = 3 eighth notes, 2 of those make up 6 possible eighth note spots and 2 eighth notes finish it off for a complete measure without any rests. G7 also has this weird ghost-note thing that once it puts those in you can't delete them. (I'm really looking forward to a little discussion with those people at NAMM this year!). Don At 03:32 AM 11/17/2004, you wrote: From: Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] The OP wanted graphical input. Not many abc programs will do that - offhand I can only think of MUSE, which is very out of date and whose author is now sadly deceased. Harmony Assistant would be worth a try as a program to match his requirements. http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/harmony.htm Jon To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
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Isn't xemacs a unix only kind of thing? Not familiar with it, but I remember the emacs editor from years ago. Don At 02:51 AM 11/17/2004, you wrote: xemacs with abc-mode.el and then e.g. abcm2ps to produce printed output To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
I did have a brief chat with Laurie before his demise. That was quite a loss to the world. He was very gracious and helpful. It's a shame MUSE has not been picked up by someone else to support. It's still listed on Hitsquad and Harmony-Central. The OP wanted graphical input. Not many abc programs will do that - offhand I can only think of MUSE, which is very out of date and whose author is now sadly deceased. abc is simple enough, I just don't want to have yet another level of abstraction to go through in improving my music reading skills. If you can get to grips with learning abc, then using a text editor plus various free abc tools will do everything you want. Upon further inspection, I see that Guitar Studio is only a tabulature entry tool, so it doesn't do if for me either. Or maybe someone can tell me how I go about buying Guitar Studio (whose author wants to be paid in Euros) from California? You can pay for it in dollars ($40) using the online registration page: Thanks for your suggestions, Phil. Don To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
No offense, Bernard, but $170.00 is more than I paid for Sibelius G7. I do like that you said it never argues with you ... definitely something in its favor! Any chance you or a representative will be at Winter NAMM in Anaheim this year? Don You might want to look at my Music Publisher 5 (for Windows). http://www.muspub.com It does most of what you list and never argues with you. It is basically a DTP system for music in the sense that it puts notation on the page and if it's wrong or bad notation then it's your problem. It will not reformat without you explicitly telling it to. Basically it's a replacement for paper and pencil but of course a lot more :-) Lacking from the above list of requirements: a) no midi input (yet) - but it has midi output. b) postscript output: no, but it can produce bmp or pcx graphics files or (of course) print to any windows printer. c) abc import/export is limited basically to the old version 1 standard, with some extensions in v2. Notably missing are lyrics and separate voices. (Of course the *program* handles those but the export does not) d) No file conversions, but conversion is simplest performed by scanning-in a printout of the other music using an extra scanning module (MP Scan 2). Price is 115 pounds or $170US. MP Scan 2 is 75 pounds or $112.50 The evaluation copy does not expire, but it simply prints across the output this is an evaluation copy printout. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
Do you use MS Windows, isn't it? Look at: http://www.xemacs.org/ http://www.xemacs.org/Download/index.html (for XEmacs) and http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/ntemacs.html (GNU Emacs). Also get and read the emacs tutorials. The keystrokes are very different from MS-Windows ones. Another option for editor is WJed with abc mode. See http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/ to get it. Or yet GVim. The Windows port is very fine, and a simple abc mode accompanies the standard package. I use GNU Emacs with abcmode.el (see also the abctabmode.el) and abcm2ps on a GNU/Linux OS. Additionally, abcMIDI package and runabc (a graphical front-end to abc software) will be useful. Hudson Lacerda Em 29 Nov 2004, [Don Parrish-Bell] escreveu: Isn't xemacs a unix only kind of thing? Not familiar with it, but I remember the emacs editor from years ago. Don At 02:51 AM 11/17/2004, you wrote: xemacs with abc-mode.el and then e.g. abcm2ps to produce printed output To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- _ Quer mais velocidade? Só com o acesso Aditivado iG, a velocidade que você quer na hora que você precisa. Clique aqui: http://www.acessoaditivado.ig.com.br
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
xemacs with abc-mode.el and then e.g. abcm2ps to produce printed output --On Friday, November 12, 2004 13:07:06 -0800 Don Parrish-Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is probably off-topic, but I think the people on this list would be most qualified to help me! I have given up on Sibelius G7 as being tolerable as a notation entry tool! It fights everything you try to do! I was wondering if anyone on the list has a recommendation for a program that allows entering notation graphically for classical guitar compositions? Here's a list of basic features I'm looking for: 1. Allows entering multiple voices without messing with what you enter (unless you ask it to!) 2. Allows playing back your composition at any point without altering what you have entered. 3. Allows easy Microsoft Windows type editing features (cut, paste, copy, etc.) without messing up what you have already entered or without automatically inserting or deleting measures. 4. It would be nice to be able to convert to and from tabulature. 5. Allows entering key and time signatures wherever you need them without messing up what you have already entered. 6. Allows entering lyrics, fingering, chord symbols, etc. without messing up what you have already entered. 7. Allows printing out postscript (or other form that an HP laser printer will accept). 8. Allows MIDI input and output. 9. Some file conversion utilities (other formats to its native one, and vice versa). You'd think any of the programs out there would allow you to do these things. Am I just asking too much? I just want a tool that is just that ... a tool, not a monster with a mind of its own that you spend 99% of your time fighting with to do a simple task! I do skim through the groups e-mails from time to time, and I do appreciate all everyone is doing on ABC format. But ABC format doesn't help with my music reading skills (sorry if I am missing someone's graphical notation efforts). Does anyone have some recommendations for me? Or maybe someone can tell me how I go about buying Guitar Studio (whose author wants to be paid in Euros) from California? I appreciate any help I can get! Thank you, Don Parrish-Bell To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Iain (Jethro) Anderson - DBA (ISYS) University of Bristol Never give a sword to a man who can't dance To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
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On 17 Nov 2004, at 10:51, Iain (Jethro) Anderson wrote: xemacs with abc-mode.el and then e.g. abcm2ps to produce printed output The OP wanted graphical input. Not many abc programs will do that - offhand I can only think of MUSE, which is very out of date and whose author is now sadly deceased. If you can get to grips with learning abc, then using a text editor plus various free abc tools will do everything you want. Or maybe someone can tell me how I go about buying Guitar Studio (whose author wants to be paid in Euros) from California? You can pay for it in dollars ($40) using the online registration page: http://nmanel.free.fr/en_gs_commande.html Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
From: Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] The OP wanted graphical input. Not many abc programs will do that - offhand I can only think of MUSE, which is very out of date and whose author is now sadly deceased. Harmony Assistant would be worth a try as a program to match his requirements. http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/harmony.htm Jon To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
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--On Friday, November 12, 2004 13:07:06 -0800 Don Parrish-Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is probably off-topic, but I think the people on this list would be most qualified to help me! I have given up on Sibelius G7 as being tolerable as a notation entry tool! It fights everything you try to do! I was wondering if anyone on the list has a recommendation for a program that allows entering notation graphically for classical guitar compositions? Here's a list of basic features I'm looking for: 1. Allows entering multiple voices without messing with what you enter (unless you ask it to!) 2. Allows playing back your composition at any point without altering what you have entered. 3. Allows easy Microsoft Windows type editing features (cut, paste, copy, etc.) without messing up what you have already entered or without automatically inserting or deleting measures. 4. It would be nice to be able to convert to and from tabulature. 5. Allows entering key and time signatures wherever you need them without messing up what you have already entered. 6. Allows entering lyrics, fingering, chord symbols, etc. without messing up what you have already entered. 7. Allows printing out postscript (or other form that an HP laser printer will accept). 8. Allows MIDI input and output. 9. Some file conversion utilities (other formats to its native one, and vice versa). You'd think any of the programs out there would allow you to do these things. Am I just asking too much? I just want a tool that is just that ... a tool, not a monster with a mind of its own that you spend 99% of your time fighting with to do a simple task! I do skim through the groups e-mails from time to time, and I do appreciate all everyone is doing on ABC format. But ABC format doesn't help with my music reading skills (sorry if I am missing someone's graphical notation efforts). Does anyone have some recommendations for me? You might want to look at my Music Publisher 5 (for Windows). http://www.muspub.com It does most of what you list and never argues with you. It is basically a DTP system for music in the sense that it puts notation on the page and if it's wrong or bad notation then it's your problem. It will not reformat without you explicitly telling it to. Basically it's a replacement for paper and pencil but of course a lot more :-) Lacking from the above list of requirements: a) no midi input (yet) - but it has midi output. b) postscript output: no, but it can produce bmp or pcx graphics files or (of course) print to any windows printer. c) abc import/export is limited basically to the old version 1 standard, with some extensions in v2. Notably missing are lyrics and separate voices. (Of course the *program* handles those but the export does not) d) No file conversions, but conversion is simplest performed by scanning-in a printout of the other music using an extra scanning module (MP Scan 2). Price is 115 pounds or $170US. MP Scan 2 is 75 pounds or $112.50 The evaluation copy does not expire, but it simply prints across the output this is an evaluation copy printout. -- Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
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Have you looked at my program HARMONY? It can do a lot of what you want, including points 1,2,3,5,6,8,and 9, and can write the result in abc format I am currently updating the notation entry by adding drag and drop from toolbars - some of this is already in place. Don Parrish-Bell wrote: This is probably off-topic, but I think the people on this list would be most qualified to help me! I have given up on Sibelius G7 as being tolerable as a notation entry tool! It fights everything you try to do! I was wondering if anyone on the list has a recommendation for a program that allows entering notation graphically for classical guitar compositions? Here's a list of basic features I'm looking for: 1. Allows entering multiple voices without messing with what you enter (unless you ask it to!) 2. Allows playing back your composition at any point without altering what you have entered. 3. Allows easy Microsoft Windows type editing features (cut, paste, copy, etc.) without messing up what you have already entered or without automatically inserting or deleting measures. 4. It would be nice to be able to convert to and from tabulature. 5. Allows entering key and time signatures wherever you need them without messing up what you have already entered. 6. Allows entering lyrics, fingering, chord symbols, etc. without messing up what you have already entered. 7. Allows printing out postscript (or other form that an HP laser printer will accept). 8. Allows MIDI input and output. 9. Some file conversion utilities (other formats to its native one, and vice versa). You'd think any of the programs out there would allow you to do these things. Am I just asking too much? I just want a tool that is just that ... a tool, not a monster with a mind of its own that you spend 99% of your time fighting with to do a simple task! I do skim through the groups e-mails from time to time, and I do appreciate all everyone is doing on ABC format. But ABC format doesn't help with my music reading skills (sorry if I am missing someone's graphical notation efforts). Does anyone have some recommendations for me? Or maybe someone can tell me how I go about buying Guitar Studio (whose author wants to be paid in Euros) from California? I appreciate any help I can get! Thank you, Don Parrish-Bell To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
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I'd be glad to check it out, Neil. Where do I download it from? Don At 12:26 PM 11/17/2004, you wrote: Have you looked at my program HARMONY? It can do a lot of what you want, including points 1,2,3,5,6,8,and 9, and can write the result in abc format I am currently updating the notation entry by adding drag and drop from toolbars - some of this is already in place. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software
This is probably off-topic, but I think the people on this list would be most qualified to help me! I have given up on Sibelius G7 as being tolerable as a notation entry tool! It fights everything you try to do! I was wondering if anyone on the list has a recommendation for a program that allows entering notation graphically for classical guitar compositions? Here's a list of basic features I'm looking for: 1. Allows entering multiple voices without messing with what you enter (unless you ask it to!) 2. Allows playing back your composition at any point without altering what you have entered. 3. Allows easy Microsoft Windows type editing features (cut, paste, copy, etc.) without messing up what you have already entered or without automatically inserting or deleting measures. 4. It would be nice to be able to convert to and from tabulature. 5. Allows entering key and time signatures wherever you need them without messing up what you have already entered. 6. Allows entering lyrics, fingering, chord symbols, etc. without messing up what you have already entered. 7. Allows printing out postscript (or other form that an HP laser printer will accept). 8. Allows MIDI input and output. 9. Some file conversion utilities (other formats to its native one, and vice versa). You'd think any of the programs out there would allow you to do these things. Am I just asking too much? I just want a tool that is just that ... a tool, not a monster with a mind of its own that you spend 99% of your time fighting with to do a simple task! I do skim through the groups e-mails from time to time, and I do appreciate all everyone is doing on ABC format. But ABC format doesn't help with my music reading skills (sorry if I am missing someone's graphical notation efforts). Does anyone have some recommendations for me? Or maybe someone can tell me how I go about buying Guitar Studio (whose author wants to be paid in Euros) from California? I appreciate any help I can get! Thank you, Don Parrish-Bell To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
