night shifts
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/conditions/06/04/cancer.nightshifts.reut/ Nurses who work regular night shifts have a higher risk of colon cancer, a study found, suggesting a relationship between the amount of sunlight exposure and the cancer. The study by researchers at Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston supports earlier research that found women who work night shifts have a higher risk of breast cancer. Because night-shift work has become very common in developed countries, future studies should assess the relationship of light exposure to the risk of other cancers and consider the risks in men, they wrote in their report, ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Are you a model citizen?
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Re: Are you a model citizen?
At 10:13 PM 6/4/2003 -0400, you wrote: Find out just how much of a model citizen you are A word of caution... remember that this is a British website and them British tend to do things a bit different :-) http://www.thesite.org/magazine/dodgy.html I had potentially 17 years in prison :-) Gary 6 years, 2500 fines. Kevin T. - VRWC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Are you a model citizen?
In a message dated 6/4/2003 9:12:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, the upside-down postage stamp is legal in the US, and if I'm to believe a certain Peanuts cartoon, indicates love. How much was that one worth? Julia Not much... For me: Years in prison: 0.5 Potential fine: £0 Yawn. William Taylor - The Nixon stamp I put on at a 45 degree angle. I am not on croocked. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Are you a model citizen?
Gary posted: Find out just how much of a model citizen you are A word of caution... remember that this is a British website and them British tend to do things a bit different :-) http://www.thesite.org/magazine/dodgy.html I had potentially 17 years in prison :-) Years in prison: 97 Potential fine: £7000 You guys wouldn't last 10 seconds in my world! Adam C. Lipscomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read the blog. Love the blog. http://aclipscomb.blogspot.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Are you a model citizen?
Gheeezzz Compared to the rest of y'all, I feel like The List Criminal. Hey, on the positive side, that bad boy image always seems to attract women (for everyone else that is), just hopefully not a 6 ft, 300 lb bearded cellmate named Bubba that keeps referring to me as My Bitch Gary Hard Time Maru I had potentially 17 years in prison :-) Gary Years in prison: 0.5 Potential fine: £0 Yawn. William Taylor 0 years and up to 2000 pound fine for me, but I've led a sheltered life. :-) Steve Sloan Heh heh...I got 0 years in prison and no fines... Damon. 1 year in prison, 5000 pound fine. Julia I got 6 months only and no fine. Jan Coffey Years in prison: 8.5 Potential fine: £7500 George A 6 years, 2500 fines. Kevin T. - VRWC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Are you a model citizen?
Years in prison: 97 Potential fine: £7000 You guys wouldn't last 10 seconds in my world! Adam C. Lipscomb Woo - hoo ! A fellow List Criminal ! :-) Gary ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: night shifts
At 02:57 AM 6/5/03 -0500, The Fool wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/conditions/06/04/cancer.nightshifts.reut/ Nurses who work regular night shifts have a higher risk of colon cancer, a study found, suggesting a relationship between the amount of sunlight exposure and the cancer. So presumably the solution is to let the patients just fend for themselves until morning . . . -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: China RFID tracking people
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[I think the post-line isn't correct for my snippage,
so I'm putting little tags for who I think wrote...]
[F]
http://news.com.com/2009-1088-984352.html?tag=fd_rndm#38
China raises the red tag
RFID tags aren't just for tracking
consumer goods any more.
The Chinese Communist Party is
experimenting with tagging and tracking people.
[J] How is this any different than on StarTrek?
[me] I think because as a member of Starfleet, you
have chosen to go into dangerous space/situations, and
it is an added safety factor [considering all the
abductions and holodeck problems... ;} ]
snip
[R] Geordie is not pronounced the same as
Gordy, either.
[J] How so?
[me] Geordi has a j sound, as in jump; I
*think* this is a voiced G. Gordy has a
'less-voiced' g, as in go get. If anyone's really
curious, I could ask my speech pathologist friend for
the technical terms/descriptions.
snipped rest
A Teacher Once Announced My Name As deBORE-ah Maru
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Re: Use of cameras
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Chapman wrote: My questions are: 1. Does your state/province have photo radar? 2. Has it ever? (I'm pretty sure Colorado stopped using them, and Ontario as well) 3. What stops them parking one on the side of an interstate and generating HUGE amounts of cash based on the FHWA's comments above... 4. Is the reason for not having them the presumed guilty until proven innocent method of infringement ticketing? snip A lawyer friend is pretty sure that it was stopped here in Denver at least b/c of 'illegality.' I know that when they quit using the ph/r vans, people who got ticketed but hadn't yet paid were allowed to just toss them out, but those who had paid couldn't get a refund... (I did a quick Dogpile search, and didn't find anything easily, so I quit looking.) They were eliminated for both the presumed guilty reason and the public outcry of accusations of the government just trying to create another revenue stream to make up for a growing deficit created by a very socialist government. ^ not saying a word... ;) My only experience was that I crossed a lane-and-a-half to avoid the oncoming car!!! I interpreted to be barreling at me when that da***d light flashed. :P Much Simpler To Follow Flow-of-Traffic And Avoid Speeding Tickets Altogether Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: China RFID tracking people
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: --- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I think the post-line isn't correct for my snippage, so I'm putting little tags for who I think wrote...] You are correct [F] http://news.com.com/2009-1088-984352.html?tag=fd_rndm#38 China raises the red tag RFID tags aren't just for tracking consumer goods any more. The Chinese Communist Party is experimenting with tagging and tracking people. [J] How is this any different than on StarTrek? [me] I think because as a member of Starfleet, you have chosen to go into dangerous space/situations, and it is an added safety factor [considering all the abductions and holodeck problems... ;} ] Nope. On several episodes people ask the computer where family members or business associates on the ground are. snip [R] Geordie is not pronounced the same as Gordy, either. [J] How so? [me] Geordi has a j sound, as in jump; I *think* this is a voiced G. Gordy has a 'less-voiced' g, as in go get. If anyone's really curious, I could ask my speech pathologist friend for the technical terms/descriptions. Ok, I buy that, but how would you know without a doubt that this is the case? Tell me the algorithm for determining the pronunciation without storing the information as data. After some searching I find that geo usually sounds like 'j'. But what about my sister-in-law's name Geogk? Besides, his name is Jodee not jeeardee and geo makes the jeea sound in every other case that I can find. Maybe it's Ge that makes the 'j' but if that were true then get and jet would sound alike. The gentle and gentile geriatric German general was a genuine genius at geography, geology, and geometry. As do many of his generation, he likes to make generously loud gestures with gerunds, ~and~, he has very small geraniums. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: night shifts
Deborah Harrell wrote: And what about those of us who keep bizarre hours anyway; will our cancer risk be higher? Hmm, better keep those multivitamins and fresh veggies coming... Veggies good. The more vitamins you can get from your food, rather than supplementally with vitamin pills, the better, right? Debbi whose own sleep cycle used to be 1 or 2AM to 10AM, but having had to adapt, it's now just non-regular :P Left to my own devices on a number of occasions, I fell into a 2AM-10AM sleep cycle, it never slipped any farther than that. I don't have that luxury any more. Thankfully, Sammy usually isn't awake before 7AM, so 11PM-7AM works OK. Which means that it's past my bedtime. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: China RFID tracking people
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[I think the post-line isn't correct for my snippage,
so I'm putting little tags for who I think wrote...]
[F]
http://news.com.com/2009-1088-984352.html?tag=fd_rndm#38
China raises the red tag
RFID tags aren't just for tracking
consumer goods any more.
The Chinese Communist Party is
experimenting with tagging and tracking people.
[J] How is this any different than on StarTrek?
[me] I think because as a member of Starfleet, you
have chosen to go into dangerous space/situations, and
it is an added safety factor [considering all the
abductions and holodeck problems... ;} ]
snip
[R] Geordie is not pronounced the same as
Gordy, either.
[J] How so?
[me] Geordi has a j sound, as in jump; I
*think* this is a voiced G. Gordy has a
'less-voiced' g, as in go get. If anyone's really
curious, I could ask my speech pathologist friend for
the technical terms/descriptions.
I think that *generally*, ge and gi are pronounced as a softer g
(like a j), and gr, gl, ga, go, and gu are pronounced with
the harder g. There are exceptions, one notable one being get as
above. Geordi begins ge, hence is the j-like sound. It's the
exceptions that are the killer. The rules for the pronunciation of C
are similar, but I think there are fewer exceptions in that case.
snipped rest
A Teacher Once Announced My Name As deBORE-ah Maru
shudder delicately at the hideous memory... :{
Do you have any idea how many teachers in New England called me
Jul-yer? :P
Julia
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Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased by 35% from1987to1995 says WHO, and they'll double again by 2020.
Han Tacoma wrote: WHO report: alarming increase in cancer rates http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/canc-a26.shtml By Joanne Laurier 26 April 2003 Global cancer rates are expected to increase 50 percent by the year 2020, according to the latest report from the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), a branch of the World Health Organization (WHO). The 351-page study, titled World Cancer Report, begins by explaining that 10 million people developed malignant tumors and 6.2 million died from the disease in the year 2000. [URL's added by Han] http://bookorders.who.int:8080/newaccess/anglais/detart1.jsp?codlan=1codcol=76codcch=0016 or http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21022CC4 Cancer was responsible for 12 percent of the nearly 56 million deaths worldwide from all causes in 2000. In industrialized countries more than one in four people will die from the disease, a rate more than twice as high as developing countries. Over 22 million people in the world were treated for cancer in 2000, representing an increase of approximately 19 percent in incidence (cases) and 18 percent in mortality since 1990. A number of people in industrialized countries are ending up with cancers that they would not otherwise get, because they'd have been DEAD before they could develop them. Now, if we figure out what things are more likely to be carcinogenic and do what we can to remove those from the environment in which people live, that would be nice; but the cancer rate overall is not going to go down in industrial nations very much from that, because the things that killed people off in earlier times, and are still killing people off in developing countries, have been drastically curtailed, at least as far as being fatal goes. For just one example: How many women die each year from pregnancy-related and childbirth-related problems in industrialized countries as opposed to in developing countries? How many women in industrialized countries are spared the complications that might very well kill them were they not in industrialized countries, and then go on to develop cancer later? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: China RFID tracking people
At 12:51 AM 6/6/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/5/2003 8:45:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The gentle and gentile geriatric German general was a genuine genius at geography, geology, and geometry. As do many of his generation, he likes to make generously loud gestures with gerunds, ~and~, he has very small geraniums. Gorsh, says Goofy. Meanwhile The tough still coughs as he ploughs the dough. Are you thoroughly through, though? -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Use of cameras
Chad Cooper wrote: What about this idea for a start. Each speed zone has three speed limit values, based upon vehicle class. Each class is represented by a symbol, like a diamond, triangle and circle. Each class of vehicle is defined through criteria such as weight, brakeing distance, use, and safety rating. Having different limits on dual carriageways is OK, but on a two-lane road it is a recipe for frustration. We used to have an 80k limit for probationary drivers when the general limit is 100k and this was certainly not a good idea in areas where safe overtaking was not possible. Regards, Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Use of cameras
Julia Thompson wrote: One feature that the ones I saw more recently had was, if you were going at or under 5 miles above the speed limit, the numbers were displayed in green, but if you were going over 5 miles above the speed limit, they were displayed in red. For the non-color-blind, this is a good added bit of feedback. Here they tend not to display the really high speeds (say more than 15k over). Removes the incentive to go for the speed record. Spoil sports! :-) Regards, Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Borg are coming!
Jan Coffey wrote: Look in at the members page, I'm the guy hovering over Greg Benford ;-) Seems I was so thrilled to meet him I followed him around like a puppy asking silly questions just to be communicating with the man. GB was a most impressive guest of honour at Aussiecon a few years ago. (Thanks again for the ticket, Julia). He spent many hours on many panels, and was very approachable in the corridors. He put up with talking to a small group of us over a cuppa for over an hour. Talked about some of the stuff he was working on (physics-wise). Apparently he used to put in a couple of hours on physics when he got back to his hotel room at night. Certainly had stamina. Just finished Furious Gulf. Can't say it really grabbed me. Regards, Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Sealaunch
On 4 Jun 2003 at 8:23, John D. Giorgis wrote: Interesting article here about a successful private space-launch company: http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/05/easterbrook.htm And it sums up my issues with NASA very nicely. Ditto some of the restrictions they have to work arround. For any of you who haven't read it, I recommend the Niven, Pournelle and Flynn book _Fallen Angels_, which is in the Baen Free Library here: http://www.baen.com/library/067172052X/067172052X.htm Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: L3: Meet Canada The Global Arms Dealer
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:35:00 -0400, Han Tacoma wrote: I'm appalled; should make the list's hawks less anti-canadian, I guess. Meet Canada The Global Arms Dealer by Stephen James-Kerr; May 25, 2003 This guy sounds like he thinks he's blown the lid off something. Canada's participation in the war on terror has never been a secret. Canada's relationship with the US has never been a secret The fact that Canada has defence and aerospace industries has never been a secret. Are you surprised that the Canadian government provides support for exporters (at a cost which the article doesn't mention)? He fails to mention how job creation through export development offsets welfare costs. Dean ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: republicans fight against tax credits for the poor
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Republicans again show their true colors by denying tax credits to the poorest tax payers. Nope. Tax cuts are only for the rich. --- http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-ustax043315975jun04,0,78 02340.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines Fool, have you been reading list posts? The last two articles you have posted have already been posted by others on the list. Are you playing catch-up or are you just making sure everybody reads it? Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much... the wheel, New York, wars, and so on, whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely the dolphins believed themselves to be more intelligent than man for precisely the same reasons. - Douglas Adams ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: republicans fight against tax credits for the poor
From: Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Republicans again show their true colors by denying tax credits to the poorest tax payers. Nope. Tax cuts are only for the rich. --- http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-ustax043315975jun04,0,78 02340.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines Fool, have you been reading list posts? The last two articles you have posted have already been posted by others on the list. Are you playing catch-up or are you just making sure everybody reads it? According to google, this specific article was ~5 minutes old when I read it. The last two article may seem similar to older article, but have newer or updated information. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Use of cameras
-Original Message- From: Andrew Crystall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:55 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Use of cameras On 3 Jun 2003 at 12:24, Chad Cooper wrote: It could provide incentive for people to buy safer and smaller cars. They don't usually go hand-in-hand (small and safe, as applied to cars). Not to get into the Why SUV's suck argument, smaller vehicles are safer for _other_ drivers. America has started an arms race for defense on the road, buying bigger and bigger vehicles to protect against the other big vehicles. I am all in favor of speed restrictions on larger vehicles, since it is clear that they require more stopping distance. There are already speed restrictions on tractor trucks on national freeways. I get really pissed when I see large trucks and SUV drivers driving their vehicle like it they were Mario Andretti. Nerd From Hell Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: L3: World cancer death rates have increased by 35% from1987 to 1995 says WHO, and they'll double again by 2020.
-Original Message- From: Steve Sloan II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:12 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: L3: World cancer death rates have increased by 35% from 1987 to 1995 says WHO, and they'll double again by 2020. Han Tacoma forwarded: Cancer was responsible for 12 percent of the nearly 56 million deaths worldwide from all causes in 2000. In industrialized countries more than one in four people will die from the disease, a rate more than twice as high as developing countries. Could it be because people in industrialized countries are more likely to live long enough to *get* cancer? I think so, but the numbers only suggested a modest increase due to age - about 25% more likely. Industrial countries have a 50% greater incidence of cancer. Lifestyle still seems to be the most common indicator for cancer (obesity, smoking, viral infection). We eat a lot. Nerd from Hell __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Big Fan of GB: was Re: The Borg are coming!
--- Ray Ludenia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Look in at the members page, I'm the guy hovering over Greg Benford ;-) Seems I was so thrilled to meet him I followed him around like a puppy asking silly questions just to be communicating with the man. GB was a most impressive guest of honour at Aussiecon a few years ago. (Thanks again for the ticket, Julia). He spent many hours on many panels, and was very approachable in the corridors. He put up with talking to a small group of us over a cuppa for over an hour. Talked about some of the stuff he was working on (physics-wise). Apparently he used to put in a couple of hours on physics when he got back to his hotel room at night. Certainly had stamina. Just finished Furious Gulf. Can't say it really grabbed me. Wow! really? I have read and re-read all of the center Novels and still can't get enough. Every other sci-fi is compared to these books. I privatly have the center scale. It it's good enough to be files in the center of the bookshelf next to GB then it's a better book than those which are out on the edges. Other books you would find spiraling outwards from the center include _chiller_ by Sterling Blake, _Manifold_ series from Stephen Baxter, Brin, Bear, Asimov, Dick, Clark, Stephenson, Sterling, Rucker, Brunner ...remember their are 4 directions in which to go ^v out so the linear order isn't that important. If you havent read Sailing Bright Eternity it really ties the whole thing together. I remember when I was reading it I kept singing an Ozzy song (I know but, well it was on the radio all the time...and I like the music ...anyway) who can we get on the case? we need Nigel Walmsley again - Someowne to put you in place, we need Nigel Walmsley again Jan = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fasten, then zip or . . .
Kevin wrote about jms: What season was it, the third, he wrote every episode by himself? He wrote every episode from season 2, episode 18 (out of 22), Confessions and Lamentations through season 5, episode 10, A Tragedy of Telepaths. That would be 59 episodes in a row. Season 5, episode 11 was written by Neil Gaiman, and then jms wrote the last 11 episodes of the series. Of 110 episodes he wrote a total of 92 (if my math is correct). That's 12 in season 1, 15 in season 2, all 22 in season 3, all 22 in season 4, and 21 in season 5. Plus the 2 hour pilot and the made-for-Sci-Fi movies. For all the praise that's heaped on David R. Kelley, or Sorkin, JMS should be recognized as the best of the best. Agreed, with the possible exception of Joss Whedon. And jms is much more prolific that Joss. Reggie Bautista _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Format and Media consolidation of America [L3]
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(Scouted) Jared Diamond on diabetes
The June 5th issue of _Nature_ has an interesting article by Jared Diamond (_Guns, Germs and Steel_) on diabetes. Here's their blurb: Feature of the week The double puzzle of diabetes Why is the prevalence of type 2 diabetes now exploding in most populations, but not in Europeans? The genetic and evolutionary consequences of geographical differences in food history may provide the answer. The article is free, but may require registration. I registered a few months ago, and signed up for a lot of emails with article titles. (It's a little tricky because you can't look at the full text of most articles without subscribing. But if I like the abstract, I can always go to the library and read the articles there.) Anyway, here's an URL which should work: http://www.nature.com/nature/featureoftheweek/ I also have it as a .pdf file. Email me offlist if you want it. ---David ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Brïn: Brïn 9/11 statement shown accurate again
At 10:11 PM 6/2/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: I'm not trying to toot my own horn, here, but I don't like being shortchanged in the 'sense' category. What is the actual percentage of 'adults who often wake confused too?' My cats have the sense to know that nap-disturbing footsteps outside our door in the afternoon are only worthy of an earflick and perhaps one eye slitting open, whereas footsteps on the sidewalk at 3am will send both into alert mode (waking me). I think I have at least as much sense as my cats. Depending on the stimulus, I can come awake and be ready to act appropriately within a couple of seconds. (Sound of a dog about to throw up is a great example.) I learned the hard way when I was 12 that you can't just sit up when you wake up, without being somewhat aware of your surroundings. (Nothing like falling asleep *under* a seat on a bus) I don't ever just sit up as I'm groping for consciousness. All bets are off, though, with a baby under 3 months next to me. (I have absolutely no memory of picking up Sammy during the night one night and starting him nursing. I woke up when he needed to be burped and then put on the other breast.) And speaking of waking up disoriented, from CNN Quick News this morning: quote Veteran singer-songwriter Barry Manilow, recently waking up disoriented in the middle of the night, walked into a wall and broke his nose, knocking himself unconscious, the entertainer disclosed on Tuesday. http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/04/manilow.ailing.reut/index.html /quote Ouch Maru -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Use of cameras
At 12:24 PM 6/3/03 -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: What about this idea for a start. Each speed zone has three speed limit values, based upon vehicle class. Each class is represented by a symbol, like a diamond, triangle and circle. Each class of vehicle is defined through criteria such as weight, brakeing distance, use, and safety rating. Diamond - Small vehicles with safety rating of 5 (federal crash test rating), under 2800 lbs, and reasonable braking distance. Triangle - between 2800 lb - 3500 lb or vehicles with safety rating below 4. Circle - Large vehicles 3500 above I was thinking about this while lying in bed last night before I fell asleep. How about: Pentadecagon - Small vehicles with safety rating of 5 (federal crash test rating), under 2800 lbs, and reasonable braking distance. Heptadecagon - between 2800 lb - 3500 lb or vehicles with safety rating below 4. Nondecagon - Large vehicles 3500 above The advantage would be that everyone would have to slow down so much to count the precise number of sides on the sign to see if it applied to them that even when accidents did occur, they wouldn't be very serious . . . Neither Am I Maru -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Br!n: Br!n 9/11 statement shown accurate again
From: Andrew Crystall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was working on pure reflex. ACT. When shit happens enough times you pick that one up. Not something I'm especially proud of... Isn't that the (potential) problem? You might be coherent enough to grab your gun and move. But would you be coherent enough to recognize that this wasn't a fight or flight situation? By your own admmission you are acting purely on instinct. Will that instince recognize a situation that, on the surface, looks like a break-in, but perhaps isn't? What if it was your kid or your spouse who made all that noise for some reason? Perhaps they forgot their key or something? - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.sloan3d.com/brinl/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: My night . . .
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:13 PM 6/3/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: The problem with binoculars, or anything else that's not mounted on a stand, is keeping things steady. What I found worked best for me, anyway, was leaning my elbows on a car one way or another. Sitting on the trunk, leaning back on the back window and having the elbows on the car that way is a little awkward, but did a decent job of steadying me the last time I tried it (which was sometime in the past 9 years). Just leaning on the hood or the trunk and parking my elbows there worked reasonably well for stuff near the horizon. If you've got some other way that works to keep things steady, use that (and let me know what it is!). Yes. It's called a tripod . . . -- Ronn! :) OK, I'm not sure how you'd attach one to the binoculars we have. We have at least 1, if not 2, tripods intended to be used for cameras. (We also have a monopod, which doesn't hold the camera quite as steady, but which is a lot more portable and works well enough for outdoor photography that it's seen a fair bit of use. And what am I saying we for? They're Dan's) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: (Scouted) Jared Diamond on diabetes
--- David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The June 5th issue of _Nature_ has an interesting article by Jared Diamond (_Guns, Germs and Steel_) on diabetes. Here's their blurb: coca-colonization You got to laugh at that! If Diamond et.al. are correct then we are doing ourselves a great disservice. We are specializing in a way that generally becomes dangerous for a species. It is possible to become ~too~ adapted. Shouldn't't the word be spread in these cultures that the lifestyle they are shifting to causes type 2? We can avoid the adaption, and retain the very useful thrifty gene. Jan = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: My night . . .
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:13 PM 6/3/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Yes. It's called a tripod . . . -- Ronn! :) OK, I'm not sure how you'd attach one to the binoculars we have. On most ther is a little screw hole on the bottom in which you can screw in a camera tripod adapter. Fasiling that, I once taped out a wood block to fit the tripod, wrapped a peice of cloth around the binoculars and duct taped them to the block. Happy gazing. Jan = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: My night . . .
At 03:54 PM 6/4/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:13 PM 6/3/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: The problem with binoculars, or anything else that's not mounted on a stand, is keeping things steady. What I found worked best for me, anyway, was leaning my elbows on a car one way or another. Sitting on the trunk, leaning back on the back window and having the elbows on the car that way is a little awkward, but did a decent job of steadying me the last time I tried it (which was sometime in the past 9 years). Just leaning on the hood or the trunk and parking my elbows there worked reasonably well for stuff near the horizon. If you've got some other way that works to keep things steady, use that (and let me know what it is!). Yes. It's called a tripod . . . -- Ronn! :) OK, I'm not sure how you'd attach one to the binoculars we have. See if something at the front end of the center pin of the binoculars unscrews. Many binoculars have a threaded socket there, where you can attach an L-shaped tripod adapter which allows you to attach them to a standard camera tripod with a 1/4-20 thread. If not, I have somewhere seen adapters which are supposed to work for the binoculars without that socket, though I'd have to look for them later. We have at least 1, if not 2, tripods intended to be used for cameras. (We also have a monopod, which doesn't hold the camera quite as steady, but which is a lot more portable and works well enough for outdoor photography that it's seen a fair bit of use. And what am I saying we for? They're Dan's) Usng a monopod with binoculars is still better than nothing. Especially if the binoculars in question magnify 20 times or so. -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: (Scouted) Jared Diamond on diabetes
If Diamond et.al. are correct then we are doing ourselves a great disservice. We are specializing in a way that generally becomes dangerous for a species. It is possible to become ~too~ adapted. Shouldn't't the word be spread in these cultures that the lifestyle they are shifting to causes type 2? We can avoid the adaption, and retain the very useful thrifty gene Well, I was diagnosed a year and a half ago with Type 2 Diabetes, and I can well and truly attribute it to stupidity. My doctor had been warning me for years to lose weight, and if I had begun to do so when he started warning me, I probably would not be a diabetic today. However, even someone as stupid as me can learn, and I have since joined Weight Watchers and exercise frequently, and have dropped 30 pounds and my blood sugar is in the normal range (high end of the normal range, but still within the desired limits; thanks also to the medication I take every day). I have my eyes and heart checked regularly and so far, no signs of diabetes-related complications. Diabetes is a progressive disease, however, so there is no guarantee that I will not someday suffer complications and/or have to start taking insulin. Still, the longer I can put that off, the better. Also, they may someday discover a cure or at least a better treatment. Type 2 diabetes is, to some extent, avoidable. Excess abdominal fat seems to interfere with insulin usage by the cells. Most Type 2 diabetics, especially if and when diagnosed early on, are still producing plenty of insulin (in fact, some may be producing too much, leading to a later burning out of the pancreas), it just isn't working effectively. Losing weight - especially shedding abdominal fat - decreases this so-called insulin resistance. Regular exercise, in addition to contributing to weight loss, also increases the effectiveness of whatever insulin one is still producing. The key, of course, is catching it early - and then doing what needs to be done. To that extent, some people in the USA are literally eating themselves to death. But it doesn't have to be that way. Not that I'm any paragon, but I've lost weight and increased my activity, and I'm keeping the weight off. If I can do it, believe me, almost anyone can do it. Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: (Scouted) Jared Diamond on diabetes
On 4 Jun 2003 at 17:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diabetes is a progressive disease, however, so there is no guarantee that I will not someday suffer complications and/or have to start taking insulin. Still, the longer I can put that off, the better. Also, they may someday discover a cure or at least a better treatment. Well, for starters there are the new testing kits coming out which can monitor sugar levels in the blood better. And type 2 diabetes is, perhaps, one of the best candidates TO be cured - the mechanisms behind it are relatively well understood, and much of the problem lies in the detection and not production... Type 2 diabetes is, to some extent, avoidable. Excess abdominal fat seems to interfere with insulin usage by the cells. Most Type 2 diabetics, especially if and when diagnosed early on, are still producing plenty of insulin (in fact, some may be producing too much, leading to a later burning out of the pancreas), it just isn't working effectively. Losing weight - especially shedding abdominal fat - decreases this so-called insulin resistance. Regular exercise, in addition to contributing to weight loss, also increases the effectiveness of whatever insulin one is still producing. The key, of course, is catching it early - and then doing what needs to be done. People like me who retain an extremely active metabolism into their 20's need to be careful as well, because you can suddenly surge in weight when you do finally lose it if you're not careful, and in some cases that can lead almost directly to type 2 diabetes. Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Br!n: Br!n 9/11 statement shown accurate again
On 4 Jun 2003 at 14:52, Horn, John wrote: From: Andrew Crystall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was working on pure reflex. ACT. When shit happens enough times you pick that one up. Not something I'm especially proud of... Isn't that the (potential) problem? You might be coherent enough to grab your gun and move. But would you be coherent enough to recognize that this wasn't a fight or flight situation? By your own admmission you are acting purely on instinct. Will that instince recognize a situation that, on the surface, looks like a break-in, but perhaps isn't? What if it was your kid or your spouse who made all that noise for some reason? Perhaps they forgot their key or something? I'm using a blade, remember. And I keep it OUT of reach when there are prople I don't know in the house. I can still reach it inside a second, but I have to THINK about it, and hence wake up a lot more. byt to be honest, it's not really applied to that. I was refering there to threatening with weapon versus USING weapon. Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: (Scouted) Jared Diamond on diabetes
--- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People like me who retain an extremely active metabolism into their 20's need to be careful as well, because you can suddenly surge in weight when you do finally lose it if you're not careful, and in some cases that can lead almost directly to type 2 diabetes. Andy Dawn Falcon I am recovering frm a broken leg. Before the break I was very active nearly every day, snowboarding, skating, rock climbing, or most usualy, kiteboarding, if all else fails, weightlifting. All highly arobic but also anarobic activites. Being down for 5 months now (non union issues) I had to drasticaly alter my diet. I can't wait to get back to my LIFE. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Public Domain Enhancement Act Petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/eldred/petition.html http://www.petitiononline.com/progress/petition.html We have gathered over 6,000 signatures on our petition in a single day. That is extraordinary progress. Yet there are many who are frustrated that this doesnt go far enough. Many on Slashdot, for example, demand that we hold out for something much more radical. That this would be a compromise and that we should never compromise. We should never compromise. But we must take first steps. We are where we are because most people dont believe in the public domain. Most people dont even understand it. We live in a time when the public domain is more than 75 years old. Yet for most of our history, the public domain was no more than 30 years old. If ordinary people could see the creativity that would be inspired if the 1960s were in the public domain, they would understand again the importance of limiting the regulation that copyright law has become. They will only understand it if we build it. They will only get it when they see the creativity it would inspire, and the knowledge it will spread. We need to show them why the public domain is important, by building it again. The Public Domain Enhancement Act would do this. And when not 5,000, but 50,000 people join together to say that it should be our first step, Congress will take it up. Then the burden will be on the otherside to explain why this obvious change should not occur. But if you think our petition is too tame if you think it accepts too much of current law, and would be read to endorse the status quo then sign this alternative. It makes clear that the current system is broken; it demands radical reforms. But as any reform we achieve can apply to future copyrights only, we still have to deal with the current law, and the control it imposes. It therefore also endorses this first step. Lets see which view of copyright law better reflects this democracy. Lets see just how radical the democracy has become. But on either view, we should take first steps now. We should build support around obvious reforms. And we should force them to resist what seems sensible to everyone else. The only thing that we should not do is sit back and do nothing, holding out for radical reform that will never come on its own. If you want radical reform, than produce 500,000 signatures on this Reclaim Copyright Law petition. If you want a first step of reform, then help us get 50,000 signatures to Reclaim the Public Domain. But either way, do something. Now. http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/lessig/blog/archives/2003_06.shtml#001259 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Use of cameras
At 08:36 AM 6/4/2003 -0700, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Andrew Crystall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:55 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Use of cameras On 3 Jun 2003 at 12:24, Chad Cooper wrote: It could provide incentive for people to buy safer and smaller cars. They don't usually go hand-in-hand (small and safe, as applied to cars). Not to get into the Why SUV's suck argument, smaller vehicles are safer for _other_ drivers. America has started an arms race for defense on the road, buying bigger and bigger vehicles to protect against the other big vehicles. I am all in favor of speed restrictions on larger vehicles, since it is clear that they require more stopping distance. There are already speed restrictions on tractor trucks on national freeways. I get really pissed when I see large trucks and SUV drivers driving their vehicle like it they were Mario Andretti. Nerd From Hell I'm on your side in this, but you may be referring to only certain states when you say there are speed restrictions on tractor trucks. Here in PA it's one speed fits all. There have been calls for years to lower the truck rate to 55 but it has not happened yet. Plus PA is a hub state between the northeast and the rest of the country. Even if it's only 20 miles you have to go through PA to go north. And this is at least three times I've seen a reference to cars being safe, except against SUVs. (And this is stating the obvious) There are trees, rocks, cliffs, animals, buildings...any number of things that can go wrong. A person is mostly safer in a bigger vehicle against those things, whether it's an SUV or a Lincoln. Now to agree with you, SUVs are shit because of the exemptions on the way they are built, classified, and taxed. Kevin T. - VRWC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Are you a model citizen?
Find out just how much of a model citizen you are A word of caution... remember that this is a British website and them British tend to do things a bit different :-) http://www.thesite.org/magazine/dodgy.html I had potentially 17 years in prison :-) Gary ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Are you a model citizen?
Gary Nunn wrote: I had potentially 17 years in prison :-) 0 years and up to 2000 pound fine for me, but I've led a sheltered life. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: My night . . .
At 11:25 PM 6/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: At 11:28 PM 6/3/03 -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: At 12:16 AM 6/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: Of probably no particular interest to anyone: Tonight was the first astronomy class of the summer term, and we had gotten just about to the halfway point, and I was winding the string around my gyroscope in order to use it to demonstrate precession, when the county sheriff who does security for the campus stuck his head in the door to tell us that we had to evacuate the room because a tornado warning had been issued for the area. Of course, it wasn't even raining at the time, and the rain didn't even start falling until over an hour later, about the time they cancelled the tornado warning, after everyone had stood around in the hall for that time. It has just started raining again, with lightning and thunder, but if there was a tornado warning involved I already missed it: where I am located, at the very eastern edge of town, the warnings usually expire by the time the storm arrives at this end of town. Ronn Can I ask, what do you teach, is thishome or (industrial?) astronomy? Um, industrial astronomy? I meant, amateur or professional astronomy. There are people taking the course who really only know a little and want to know more, there are people who know a lot and want to solidify their knowledge and/or earn the credits. Maybe I'm saying this wrong. Amateur astronomers can make real discoveries, while an amateur meteorologist can take measurements, keep great logs but it's doubtful that he will add to the store of knowledge. There aren't meteorologist clubs. But people can take a weather class even if they aren't doing it to become professional. I'll stop now. Kevin T. - VRWC Surprise, it's raining again. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: army tortures iraqi prisoners, photos show
From: The Fool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's been a few days and I haven't heard anything of this in any other media source. many. many links snipped Hmmm... Are you trying to tell me something, Fool? - jmh I Guess I Didn't Look Hard Enough Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Are you a model citizen?
Gary Nunn wrote: Find out just how much of a model citizen you are A word of caution... remember that this is a British website and them British tend to do things a bit different :-) http://www.thesite.org/magazine/dodgy.html I had potentially 17 years in prison :-) Well, we all know how I answered the throwing the ball at someone else's head question, don't we? :) 1 year in prison, 5000 pound fine. Now, the upside-down postage stamp is legal in the US, and if I'm to believe a certain Peanuts cartoon, indicates love. How much was that one worth? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Are you a model citizen?
I got 6 months only and no fine. But of course, I answered each as if it read as an adult and...they didn't ask the right questions. 87) --- Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Find out just how much of a model citizen you are A word of caution... remember that this is a British website and them British tend to do things a bit different :-) http://www.thesite.org/magazine/dodgy.html I had potentially 17 years in prison :-) Gary ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
China RFID tracking people
http://news.com.com/2009-1088-984352.html?tag=fd_rndm#38 China raises the red tag RFID tags aren't just for tracking consumer goods any more. The Chinese Communist Party is experimenting with tagging and tracking people. Delegates to the recent Communist Party Congress were required to wear an RFID badge equipped with the tiny tag, which permitted their movements around the conference to be constantly tracked and recorded. RFID stands for radio frequency identification, and each tag has a unique number associated with it. Some large retailers are experimenting with the system to track inventory and cut down on shoplifting. In a new application of the technology, Texas Instruments provided its client with about 20,000 of the tags. As attendees moved throughout the various areas of the conference, their badges were electronically read by one of 20 TI S6550 Long Range Readers with customized gate antennas, strategically placed throughout the conference area, a company newsletter says. In addition to real-time monitoring of the delegates, the setup let security guards perform identity checks by comparing a database photo with the badge holder's face. We expect our access-control business to accelerate over the next couple of years as corporations and governmental agencies raise the level of security for their people and their assets, said TI spokesman Bill Allen. For some reason, China's leaders seem to be shying away from additional publicity. We'd love to do a full-blown press release, case study, etc., but the (Chinese) Communist Party will not allow it at this time, Allen said. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: Top5 Science Fiction - 6/6/03 - The Top 5 Klingon Resumeand Job Search Tips
== Visits? That would indicate visitors! TOPFIVE.COM'S LITTLE FIVERS -- SCIENCE FICTION http://www.topfive.com/fivers.shtml == June 6, 2003 NOTE FROM GREG: Mental health workers recently put out a call for interpreters who speak Klingon, saying that many of their patients refuse to speak anything but the fictional language. The story was later recanted, but still... The Top 5 Klingon Resume and Job Search Tips 5 Always sign your cover letter with the blood of your enemies. 4 If your new co-worker has a Swingline stapler, claim it in the name of the Empire. 3 During the interview, it is not necessary to kill the interviewer when he asks if you have any weaknesses. 2 Listing the names of slain enemies in battle should only be provided on request, rather than part of the initial resume. and the Number 1 Klingon Resume and Job Search Tip... 1 DON'T say Fired for surfing porn. DO say Completed successful research of individuals who had dishonored themselves. [ Copyright 2003 by Chris White] [ http://www.topfive.com ] == Selected from 27 submissions from 8 contributors. Today's Top 5 List authors are: -- RW Lipp, Lenexa, KS -- 1, 4, List Topic Dave Oberhart, Durham, NC-- 2, 3 Lisa Comeau, Toronto, Canada -- 5, Runner Up list name Greg Preece, Toronto, Canada -- Dark Lord Of The Sith -- Klingon Resume and Job Search Tips RUNNERS UP list -- You want ritual disembowelment with that? -- Target your resume -- when applying for a position in the humanities, your success on the killing fields is not relevant. (Lisa Comeau, Toronto, Canada) It is always good etiquette when, after saying, That wasn't a prostitute you saw me with, that was your dishonorable MOTHER!!! you let your interviewer draw his weapon first. (Guy Payne, Birmingham, AL) Refrain from decapitating your interviewer with your bat'leth until *after* you've filled out the employment forms. (Lisa Comeau, Toronto, Canada) Reason for leaving last job: Killed Boss. (Rabbi Crut, Bowling Green, OH) Get a job as a New York cabdriver -- no one will notice the difference. (Arthur Levesque, Laurel, MD) When offered a cup of coffee by the interviewer, do not consider him your enemy, and take the offered cup. (Dave Oberhart, Durham, NC) Don't sign a contract which specifies that you get severance when they're done with you. (Arthur Levesque, Laurel, MD) -- Klingon Resume and Job Search Tips HONORABLE MENTION list -- Kling-it Notes -- Job references, like gagh, are best served alive. (Slick Sharkey, Miami, FL) Just because the ad describes the ideal candidate as aggressive, actually bringing your bat'leth to the interview really isn't necessary. (Fran Fruit, Winnetka, IL) If the interviewer mispronounces your family name, do not growl. A second offense would warrant killing, but only after you have attempted to correct the mistake. (Dave Oberhart, Durham, NC) On a Klingon resume, it is always a good day to lie. (Slick Sharkey, Miami, FL) It is not necessary to mark your resume, your name will be enough to identify you and human noses cannot distinguish nor appreciate the fine differences in Klingon piddle. (Guy Payne, Birmingham, AL) Unless specifically asked, *do not* sing selections from Klingon opera at a first interview. (Fran Fruit, Winnetka, IL) Cite Kahless as a reference. It's impressive, and nobody really checks, anyway. (Slick Sharkey, Miami, FL) == [ TOPFIVE.COM'S LITTLE FIVERS ] [Top 10 lists on a variety of subjects ] [ http://www.topfive.com ] == [ Copyright 2003 by Chris White All rights reserved. ] [ Do not forward, publish, broadcast, or use ] [ in any manner without crediting TopFive.com ] == [ To complain to the moderator: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ Have
