Re: [CODE4LIB] LCSH, Bisac, facets, hierarchy?
content in one term. Searching is exploring through overlapping
terms, and compiling a bibliography from the pearls found in the process.
This interface makes clearer what the related terms may be, given a borad
term like practical theology. And it’s so nice that it combines the
classification structure with the subject headings.
Cindy Harper
@vts.edu<http://vts.edu>
-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kent Fitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:17 PM
To:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LCSH, Bisac, facets, hierarchy?
About ten years ago, I was wondering how to make the structure in LCSH,
or
at least how it was encoded in MARC subject tags more useful, so when
implementing a prototype for a new library catalogue at the National
Library of Australia, I tried using the subject tag contents to
represent a
hierarchy, then counted the number of hits against parts of that
hierarchy
for a given search and then represented the subject tags in a hierarchy
with hit counts. One of the motivations was to help expose to the
searcher how works relevant to their search may have been
LCSH-subject-catalogued.
I'm a programmer, not a UI person, so the formatting of theresults were
fairly primitive, but that prototype from ten years ago ("Library Labs")
is
still running.
For example, search results for /ancient egypt/
http://ll01.nla.gov.au/search.jsp?searchTerm=ancient+egypt=0.5=0.05=12.0=9.0=9.0=9.0=4.0=3.0=3.0=3.0=18.0=15.0
/computer art/
http://ll01.nla.gov.au/search.jsp?searchTerm=computer+art=0.5=0.05=12.0=9.0=9.0=9.0=4.0=3.0=3.0=3.0=18.0=15.0
/history of utah/
http://ll01.nla.gov.au/search.jsp?searchTerm=history+of+utah=0.5=0.05=12.0=9.0=9.0=9.0=4.0=3.0=3.0=3.0=18.0=15.0
This prototype also explored a subject hierarchy which had been of
interest to the NLA's Assistant Director-General, Dr Warwick Cathro, over
many years, the RLG "Conspectus" hierarchy, which I guess was not unlike
BISAC in its aims. It is shown further down the right-hand column.
Both the subject hierarchy and Conspectus were interesting, but neither
made it into the eventual production search system, Trove, implemented at
the NLA, in which subject faceting or hierarchy is absent from results
display:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/book/result?q=ancient+egypt
http://trove.nla.gov.au/book/result?q=computer+art
http://trove.nla.gov.au/book/result?q=history+of+utah
The "Library Labs" prototype is running on a small VM, so searching may
be
slow, and it hasnt been updated with any content since 2006.. But maybe
the way it attempted to provide subject grouping and encourage narrowing
of
search by LCSH or exploring using LCSH rather than the provided search
terms may trigger some more experiments.
Kent Fitch
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:11 AM, Mark Watkins <m...@thehawaiiproject.com
<mailto:m...@thehawaiiproject.com>>
wrote:
:)
sounds like there is a lot of useful metadata but somewhat scattered
amongst various fields, depending on when the item was cataloged or
tagged.
Which seems to correspond to anecdotal surfing of the Harvard data.
I guess my new task is to build something that aggregates and
reconciles portions of LCSH, LCFGT, and GSAFD :).
Thanks for the additional perspective!
--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: +1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] LCSH, Bisac, facets, hierarchy?
On 4/14/16 7:40 AM, Joseph Montibello wrote: Real use of LCSH would search the reference vocabulary as well as the preferred term headings which get into bib records. Working with LCSH bib headings alone misses the point of a sophisticated controlled vocabulary, where much of the terminological and semantic richness for searching is contained in "see" and "see also" references, complex references and scope and other kinds of notes. The controlled vocabulary itself needs to be integrated into search results so that searches call up not only bib records with a matching heading but vocabulary records which can expand the user's search vocabulary and point to related controlled terms outside those generated by the retrieved bib records' themselves. Are there discovery systems out there that attempt this? It would be great to use all the work that has gone into these vocabs to improve end-user experience, not by telling them to click a "see also" link but by doing that work for them in some way. We tried that in an early version of the U of Calif's MELVYL system (I'm talking early 80's here). The difficulty is in trying to coordinate a keyword search, that can bring up a wide variety of headings in very different "hierarchies", and some direct linking that would make sense to the user. The best we could do was to combine the keywords from the authoritative and non-authoritative headings for retrieval, thus increasing both the desired retrieval but also the false drops. If you could isolate the subject "graphs" and present them it would be cleaner, but in some cases the number of different graphs retrieved would make for a very difficult presentation for the user. The disconnect between keyword searching and headings is something that needs more analysis. kc Joe Montibello, MLIS Library Systems Manager Dartmouth College 603.646.9394 joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] LCSH, Bisac, facets, hierarchy?
content in one term. Searching is exploring through overlapping
terms, and compiling a bibliography from the pearls found in the process.
This interface makes clearer what the related terms may be, given a borad
term like practical theology. And it’s so nice that it combines the
classification structure with the subject headings.
Cindy Harper
@vts.edu<http://vts.edu>
-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kent Fitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:17 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LCSH, Bisac, facets, hierarchy?
About ten years ago, I was wondering how to make the structure in LCSH,
or
at least how it was encoded in MARC subject tags more useful, so when
implementing a prototype for a new library catalogue at the National
Library of Australia, I tried using the subject tag contents to
represent a
hierarchy, then counted the number of hits against parts of that
hierarchy
for a given search and then represented the subject tags in a hierarchy
with hit counts. One of the motivations was to help expose to the
searcher how works relevant to their search may have been
LCSH-subject-catalogued.
I'm a programmer, not a UI person, so the formatting of theresults were
fairly primitive, but that prototype from ten years ago ("Library Labs")
is
still running.
For example, search results for /ancient egypt/
http://ll01.nla.gov.au/search.jsp?searchTerm=ancient+egypt=0.5=0.05=12.0=9.0=9.0=9.0=4.0=3.0=3.0=3.0=18.0=15.0
/computer art/
http://ll01.nla.gov.au/search.jsp?searchTerm=computer+art=0.5=0.05=12.0=9.0=9.0=9.0=4.0=3.0=3.0=3.0=18.0=15.0
/history of utah/
http://ll01.nla.gov.au/search.jsp?searchTerm=history+of+utah=0.5=0.05=12.0=9.0=9.0=9.0=4.0=3.0=3.0=3.0=18.0=15.0
This prototype also explored a subject hierarchy which had been of
interest to the NLA's Assistant Director-General, Dr Warwick Cathro, over
many years, the RLG "Conspectus" hierarchy, which I guess was not unlike
BISAC in its aims. It is shown further down the right-hand column.
Both the subject hierarchy and Conspectus were interesting, but neither
made it into the eventual production search system, Trove, implemented at
the NLA, in which subject faceting or hierarchy is absent from results
display:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/book/result?q=ancient+egypt
http://trove.nla.gov.au/book/result?q=computer+art
http://trove.nla.gov.au/book/result?q=history+of+utah
The "Library Labs" prototype is running on a small VM, so searching may
be
slow, and it hasnt been updated with any content since 2006.. But maybe
the way it attempted to provide subject grouping and encourage narrowing
of
search by LCSH or exploring using LCSH rather than the provided search
terms may trigger some more experiments.
Kent Fitch
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:11 AM, Mark Watkins <m...@thehawaiiproject.com
<mailto:m...@thehawaiiproject.com>>
wrote:
:)
sounds like there is a lot of useful metadata but somewhat scattered
amongst various fields, depending on when the item was cataloged or
tagged.
Which seems to correspond to anecdotal surfing of the Harvard data.
I guess my new task is to build something that aggregates and
reconciles portions of LCSH, LCFGT, and GSAFD :).
Thanks for the additional perspective!
--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: +1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Google can give you answers, but librarians give you the right answers
On 4/6/16 9:51 AM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Karen Coyle <li...@kcoyle.net> wrote: ... Libraries "do" it, but our user interfaces ignore it (honestly, does anyone NOT think that the whole BT/NT relationship in LCSH is completely wasted in today's systems?). Google searches "work" best on proper nouns that are nearly unique. You cannot do concept searches, and you cannot see relationships between concepts. It's great for named people, organizations and products, but not great for anything else.[1]... Conceptually, I like the idea of using the relationships in LCSH. However, I don't hold out much hope that anyone will make hay out of that. The percentage of things that have decent LCSH assigned to them is small and shrinking for the simple reason that a fewer and fewer humans have to manage more resources. I'm not sure what you are saying here -- that there are fewer headings being assigned, or that they are not as "good" as ones assigned in the past? Or is it that many of our resources aren't covered by library cataloging rules? Automation could help (getting the needed data from publishers might be tricky), but the only benefit I can think of for using LCSH for automated applications is to maximize relationships with older materials -- possibly at the expense of the "findability" of the newer stuff. LCSH is relatively flat, the rules for constructing headings are so Byzantine that they stymie even experienced catalogers (which contributes to inconsistent application in terms of quality, level of analysis, and completeness), and its ability to express concepts at all is highly variable as it is designed by a committee on an enumerative basis. ?? Sorry, what's this "enumerative basis"? Add to this that concepts in records frequently must be expressed across multiple headings and subheadings, any type of automated assignment is going to result in really "dirty" relationships so I can't blame ILS designers for limiting their use of LCSH primarily to controlled keyword access. Well, actually, there's nothing at all "controlled" about keyword access. It's pretty much a pot shot, or, as I've called it before, a form of dumpster diving for information. There is a huge disconnect between the results of keyword searching and the expected functionality (read: user service) of controlled left-anchored headings, and I continue to be amazed that we've been living with this disconnect for decades without ever coming to an agreement that we need a solution.[1] Instead, great effort goes into modifying the descriptive cataloging rules, while no major changes have been made in subject access. I find this to be... well, stunning, in the sense that I'm pretty much stunned that this is the case. kc [1] See Lorcan Dempsey's approach in this slide deck: http://www.slideshare.net/lisld/irish-studies-making-library-data-work-harder . It has to do with "things", which is in good part what I first found interesting about LoD. kyle -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Google can give you answers, but librarians give you the right answers
On 4/6/16 4:04 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: Instead, I think the problem to solve surrounds assisting the reader in using & understanding the stuff they find. I'd like to see innovation a step before find, but I think in a sense we're on the same wavelength. My take is that bibliographic information should be the end of a process, not the beginning. Before arriving at bib data, there's a lot of understanding and context that needs to be clarified. Some of this involves authors and subjects, but not as they are currently represented (mainly as text strings, and without relationships). I think that one of the main questions a user has at the catalog is "Where am I?" - where am I in the knowledge universe, where am I in the collection of this library? Note that Google does not give users an answer to this question because there is no larger context, no inherent organization. Google does not do knowledge organization. Libraries "do" it, but our user interfaces ignore it (honestly, does anyone NOT think that the whole BT/NT relationship in LCSH is completely wasted in today's systems?). Google searches "work" best on proper nouns that are nearly unique. You cannot do concept searches, and you cannot see relationships between concepts. It's great for named people, organizations and products, but not great for anything else.[1] Also, without the links that fuel pagerank, the ranking is very unsatisfactory - cf. Google Book searches, which are often very unsatisfying -- and face it, if Google can't make it work, what are the odds that we can? We do have knowledge organization potential; it's a bit out of date, it hasn't been made truly actionable, but it's there. kc [1] Except where there's a Wikipedia article using the concept term. Basically Wikipedia provides the only knowledge organization that Google has -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Google can give you answers, but librarians give you the right answers
Eric, there were studies done a few decades ago using factual questions. Here's a critical round-up of some of the studies: http://www.jstor.org/stable/25828215 Basically, 40-60% correct, but possibly the questions were not representative -- so possibly the results are really worse :( kc On 4/5/16 1:11 PM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: I sincerely wonder to what extent librarians give the reader (patrons) the right -- correct -- answer to a (reference) question. Such is a hypothesis that can be tested and measured. Please show me non-antidotal evidence one way or the other. --ELM -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites
I'm using OpenLink structured data sniffer[1]. No idea how it intuits schema that isn't there... kc [1] http://osds.openlinksw.com/ On 3/29/16 9:46 AM, Kevin Ford wrote: Huh. I didn't look at "How to read..." but I did look at the other two. Just so we're on the same page, here are the two I found in which I could not detect any schema.org markup: http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2014/2014-02-18.html http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2014/2014-01-48.html Interestingly, the "how to read" doesn't appear to have schema.org either: http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2014/2014-01-07.html FWIW, I'm looking at the HTML itself. You may be using a tool that is generating a little but of schema. Is that accurate? If you look at the HTML of the 2016 item you sent along, you can see the schema.org vocab embedded in the code: view-source:http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html That's probably why it generated more output. The 2014 reviews do not actually include schema.org markup. Best, Kevin On 03/29/2016 11:36 AM, Karen Coyle wrote: That's odd. I haven't done a large survey, but every recent item that I've looked at has had the code. http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html Statement Collection #1 Entity http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html Attributes rdfa:usesVocabulary <http://www.w3.org/ns/rdfa#usesVocabulary> schema: <http://schema.org/> Statement Collection #2 Entity http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html#review_text Attributes rdf:type <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> schema:Review <http://schema.org/Review> schema:name <http://schema.org/name> Bryn Mawr Classical Review 2016.03.30 schema:itemReviewed <http://schema.org/itemReviewed> http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html#review_item schema:author <http://schema.org/author> Robert W. Wallace schema:reviewBody <http://schema.org/reviewBody> This book is cause for celebration. Notwithstanding the complexity of his many source traditions, Solon is our best attested historical figure from archaic Greece, as sophos, poet, statesman, lawgiver, and the subject of a biography by Plutarch. It's possible that earlier data wasn't coded sufficiently to pick up the details. Here's the "latin poem" one: Entity http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2014/2014-01-07.html#this Attributes schema:description <http://schema.org/description> William Fitzgerald, How to Read a Latin Poem: If You Can’t Read Latin Yet. Oxford; New York: Oxford University Press, 2013. Pp. ix, 278. ISBN 9780199657865. $35.00. This is indeed why I wanted a "before and after" test - to see if schema did add SEO. Now we don't know. kc On 3/29/16 7:48 AM, Kevin Ford wrote: Hi Karen, I took a look at those bryn mawr hits and I don't see the schema.org used in the page. Am I missing it? Perhaps I found the wrong thing. If indeed it's not there, it just goes to show how using schema is not a panacea. Loads of factors go into search ranking, relevancy, and display. Yours, Kevin On 03/24/2016 09:28 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: I worked on the addition of schema.org data to the Bryn Mawr Classical Reviews. Although I advised doing a "before and after" test to see how it affected retrieval, I lost touch with the folks before that could happen. However, their reviews do show up fairly high in Google, around the 3-5th place on page one. Try these searches: how to read a latin poem /From Listeners to Viewers:/ /Butrint 4: The Archaeology and Histories of an Ionian Town kc / On 3/22/16 5:44 PM, Jennifer DeJonghe wrote: Hello, I'm looking for examples of library web sites or university web sites that are using Structured Data / schema.org to mark up books, locations, events, etc, on their public web sites or blogs. I'm NOT really looking for huge linked data projects where large record sets are marked up, but more simple SEO practices for displaying rich snippets in search engine results. If you have examples of library or university websites doing this, please send me a link! Thank you, Jennifer Jennifer DeJonghe Librarian and Professor Library and Information Services Metropolitan State University St. Paul, MN -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites
That's odd. I haven't done a large survey, but every recent item that I've looked at has had the code. http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html Statement Collection #1 Entity http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html Attributes rdfa:usesVocabulary <http://www.w3.org/ns/rdfa#usesVocabulary> schema: <http://schema.org/> Statement Collection #2 Entity http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html#review_text Attributes rdf:type <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> schema:Review <http://schema.org/Review> schema:name <http://schema.org/name> Bryn Mawr Classical Review 2016.03.30 schema:itemReviewed <http://schema.org/itemReviewed> http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2016/2016-03-30.html#review_item schema:author <http://schema.org/author> Robert W. Wallace schema:reviewBody <http://schema.org/reviewBody> This book is cause for celebration. Notwithstanding the complexity of his many source traditions, Solon is our best attested historical figure from archaic Greece, as sophos, poet, statesman, lawgiver, and the subject of a biography by Plutarch. It's possible that earlier data wasn't coded sufficiently to pick up the details. Here's the "latin poem" one: Entity http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2014/2014-01-07.html#this Attributes schema:description <http://schema.org/description> William Fitzgerald, How to Read a Latin Poem: If You Can’t Read Latin Yet. Oxford; New York: Oxford University Press, 2013. Pp. ix, 278. ISBN 9780199657865. $35.00. This is indeed why I wanted a "before and after" test - to see if schema did add SEO. Now we don't know. kc On 3/29/16 7:48 AM, Kevin Ford wrote: Hi Karen, I took a look at those bryn mawr hits and I don't see the schema.org used in the page. Am I missing it? Perhaps I found the wrong thing. If indeed it's not there, it just goes to show how using schema is not a panacea. Loads of factors go into search ranking, relevancy, and display. Yours, Kevin On 03/24/2016 09:28 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: I worked on the addition of schema.org data to the Bryn Mawr Classical Reviews. Although I advised doing a "before and after" test to see how it affected retrieval, I lost touch with the folks before that could happen. However, their reviews do show up fairly high in Google, around the 3-5th place on page one. Try these searches: how to read a latin poem /From Listeners to Viewers:/ /Butrint 4: The Archaeology and Histories of an Ionian Town kc / On 3/22/16 5:44 PM, Jennifer DeJonghe wrote: Hello, I'm looking for examples of library web sites or university web sites that are using Structured Data / schema.org to mark up books, locations, events, etc, on their public web sites or blogs. I'm NOT really looking for huge linked data projects where large record sets are marked up, but more simple SEO practices for displaying rich snippets in search engine results. If you have examples of library or university websites doing this, please send me a link! Thank you, Jennifer Jennifer DeJonghe Librarian and Professor Library and Information Services Metropolitan State University St. Paul, MN -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Structured Data Markup on library web sites
I worked on the addition of schema.org data to the Bryn Mawr Classical Reviews. Although I advised doing a "before and after" test to see how it affected retrieval, I lost touch with the folks before that could happen. However, their reviews do show up fairly high in Google, around the 3-5th place on page one. Try these searches: how to read a latin poem /From Listeners to Viewers:/ /Butrint 4: The Archaeology and Histories of an Ionian Town kc / On 3/22/16 5:44 PM, Jennifer DeJonghe wrote: Hello, I'm looking for examples of library web sites or university web sites that are using Structured Data / schema.org to mark up books, locations, events, etc, on their public web sites or blogs. I'm NOT really looking for huge linked data projects where large record sets are marked up, but more simple SEO practices for displaying rich snippets in search engine results. If you have examples of library or university websites doing this, please send me a link! Thank you, Jennifer Jennifer DeJonghe Librarian and Professor Library and Information Services Metropolitan State University St. Paul, MN -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] DPLA and Pop Up Archive partner to make audiovisual collections across the U.S. searchable
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Re: [CODE4LIB] SWIB15 – Registration Open (Semantic Web in Libraries, Hamburg, 23-25 November)
I just got there through the link. I did have some problems with another email that used https and the SWIB site was rejected by Chrome (but not Firefox). Try again? kc (on the SWIB org committee) On 8/11/15 7:27 AM, Justin Coyne wrote: The links you provided aren't resolving. Not Found The requested URL /swib15/programme.php was not found on this server. -Justin On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Neubert, Joachim j.neub...@zbw.eu wrote: We are happy to invite you to this year's SWIB (Semantic Web in Libraries) conference in Hamburg, 23 - 25 November 2015. Take a look at the programme for SWIB15 here: http://swib.org/swib15/programme.php. You can register for the conference at http://swib.org/swib15/registration.php. Further information and contact: Joachim Neubert German National Library of Economics Leibniz Information Centre for Economics (ZBW) Phone +49 40 428 34-462 E-Mail: j.neubert(at) zbw.eu Adrian Pohl North Rhine-Westphalian Library Service Center (hbz) Phone +49 221 400 75-235 E-Mail: swib(at)hbz-nrw.de Website: http://swib.org/swib15 Twitter: http://twitter.com/swibcon Twitter Hashtag: #swib15 Looking forward to meeting you in Hamburg, Joachim -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
[CODE4LIB] Fwd: new W3C CSV on the Web specs, now at Candidate Recommendation stage - please implement!
For those who have to work with output from spreadsheets. And I wonder if this doesn't interact with OpenRefine output as well. kc Forwarded Message Subject: new W3C CSV on the Web specs, now at Candidate Recommendation stage - please implement! Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:33:21 + Resent-From: public-voc...@w3.org Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:32:52 +0100 From: Dan Brickley dan...@google.com To: public-...@w3.org, semantic-...@w3.org Web semantic-...@w3.org, W3C Web Schemas Task Force public-voc...@w3.org Hi! Short version: Please see http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/4830 for the Candidate Recommendation specs from W3C's CSV on the Web group - https://www.w3.org/2013/csvw/wiki/Main_Page Long version: These are the 4 docs, Model for Tabular Data and Metadata on the Web—an abstract model for tabular data, and how to locate metadata that enables users to better understand what the data holds; this specification also contains non-normative guidance on how to parse CSV files http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/CR-tabular-data-model-20150716/ Metadata Vocabulary for Tabular Data—a JSON-based format for expressing metadata about tabular data to inform validation, conversion, display and data entry for tabular data http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/CR-tabular-metadata-20150716/ Generating JSON from Tabular Data on the Web—how to convert tabular data into JSON http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/CR-csv2json-20150716/ Generating RDF from Tabular Data on the Web—how to convert tabular data into RDF http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/CR-csv2rdf-20150716/ See the blog post for more links including an extensive set of test cases, our GitHub repo and the mailing list for feedback. Also note that the approach takes CSV as its central stereotypical use case but should apply to many other tabular data-sharing approaches too (e.g. most obviously tab separated). So if you prefer tab-separated files to comma-separated, do please take a look! The Model spec defines that common model, the metadata document defines terminology for talking about instances of that model, and the last two specs apply this approach to the problem of mapping tables into JSON and/or RDF. The group expects to satisfy the implementation goals (i.e., at least two, independent implementations for each of the test cases) by October 30, 2015. Please take a look, and pass this along to other groups who may be interested. cheers, Dan for the CSVW WG p.s. since I'm writing I'll indulge myself and share my personal favourite part, which is the ability (in the csv2rdf doc) to map from rows in a table via templates into RDF triples. This is a particularly interesting/important facility and worth some attention. Normally I wouldn't enthuse over (yet another) new RDF syntax but the ability to map tabular data into triples via out-of-band mappings is very powerful. BTW the group gave some serious consideration to applying R2RML here (see docs and github/wiki for details), however given the subtle differences between SQL and CSV environments we have taken a different approach. Anyway please take a look!
Re: [CODE4LIB] Indie Preserves
I recommend a look at Pop Up Archive [1] - digital archiving for the non-archivist. It's heavily based on the archiving of sound files. kc [1] https://www.popuparchive.com/ On 7/29/15 9:13 PM, Scott Carlson wrote: Apologies for any cross-posting, and please excuse the shameless self-promotion... Norie Guthrie (an archivist/special collections librarian) and myself have started a website/blog to help DIY born-digital music labels with the digital/physical preservation of their materials. We hope to provide practical archiving tips and solutions to those putting out music on a shoestring budget. This past spring, we conducted a survey to understand what types of materials record labels were saving and how they were saving them. We hope to formally present on this data some time in the future. If you have time, please stop by the blog: http://www.indiepreserves.info/ Feel free to look us up on Twitter as well: https://twitter.com/IndiePreserves Thanks, Scott Carlson Metadata Coordinator Rice University, Fondren Library scarl...@rice.edu -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Auto discovery of Dewey, UDC
Oh, dear. That's not good news: There is no current projected date for the return of Dewey.info right now. We apologize for the inconvenience. Dated June 9, 2015. kc On 6/12/15 10:54 AM, LeVan,Ralph wrote: This is as close to an official statement as I can find: http://www.oclc.org/developer/news/2015/dewey-down.en.html I've asked around, but can't add anything to that. Ralph -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 12:35 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: Auto discovery of Dewey, UDC Hi. I tweeted this last month and got a reply that dewey.info is indeed currently down for major work, but is intended to return. That said, it was intended to return a month or two ago, so the usual coding project delays are in action here. ;-) kc On 6/12/15 7:08 AM, Sergio Letuche wrote: dewey.info seems to be dead, we have also checked this. 2015-06-12 16:57 GMT+03:00 Péter Király kirun...@gmail.com: Hi Sergio, As part of eXtensible Catalog we developed a Dewey module for Drupal, which takes a Dewey number, and use OCLC's dewey.info to fetch the textual description of the part. When it was created the service contained only 3 levels of the classification system, since then they went ahead, and now it is deeper. You can find the sorce here: http://cgit.drupalcode.org/xc/tree/xc_dewey/xc_dewey.module?h=7.x-1.x Maybe it helps you. Regarding to UDC: it is much a harder task, and when I worked with it, I run into a blocking problem, which is that UDC was not licenced as freely usable, and I was not able to get a licence to use it in an open source project. There were some other problems as well: UDC changed from time to time, and sometimes it means, that a given classification code means this thing in a given point of time, and that thing some years later. The MARC catalog I worked with did not contain any information about the UDC versions, so the accuracy of the tool was not guaranted (of course you can do some intelligent guessing). And the last problem was, that on contrary to the Dewey classification UDC contains sometime very lengthy descriptions instead of one or two words. Semantically it is OK, but makes the UI design a little bit hard, and if you want to search for the textual description, you'll end up sometimes with a noisy result set. Otherwise to handle the operators, the subclasses, and all the nice things UDC provides is a very interesting challange. Cheers, Péter 2015-06-12 12:59 GMT+02:00 Sergio Letuche code4libus...@gmail.com: thank you very much for your quick reply, dear Stefano, i appreciate it 2015-06-12 13:47 GMT+03:00 Stefano Bargioni bargi...@pusc.it: Hi, Sergio: maybe this article [1 abstract] [2 English text] can give you some basic ideas. We added a lot of DDC info in our Koha catalog two years ago. HTH. Stefano [1] http://leo.cineca.it/index.php/jlis/article/view/8766 [2] http://leo.cineca.it/index.php/jlis/article/view/8766/8060 On 12/giu/2015, at 12:03, Sergio Letuche code4libus...@gmail.com wrote: hello community! we are facing this challenging issue. We need to complete for a vast amount of records, the dewey, UDC info, has anyone had any experience with this? We need some way (via modeling? mahout?) to try and discover these values, based on some text, found in the records' metadata, and then auto complete these values. I would appreciate any feedback, if there is any opensource tool you have used for this purpose, or if you are aware of any best practice for doing this task. Best __ Il tuo 5x1000 al Patronato di San Girolamo della Carita' e' un gesto semplice ma di grande valore. Una tua firma aiutera' i sacerdoti ad essere piu' vicini alle esigenze di tutti noi. Aiutaci a formare sacerdoti e seminaristi provenienti dai 5 continenti indicando nella dichiarazione dei redditi il codice fiscale 97023980580. -- Péter Király software developer GWDG, Göttingen - Europeana - eXtensible Catalog - The Code4Lib Journal http://linkedin.com/in/peterkiraly -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Distribution of collections by DDC or UDC?
Christina, I was hoping that someone with more info would reply, but to my knowledge the services that do these statistical surveys are pay-fer so this might be considered proprietary info. Presumably libraries that have used these services received the results, but may not be allowed to share them. You might, however, have better luck on a list that has a higher percentage of collection development librarians. Unfortunately, I don't know what list that would be. Anyone? kc On 5/14/15 6:47 AM, Pikas, Christina K. wrote: This might be a bizarre question, but can anyone point to some analysis for a large general library, consortium, or even like WorldCat, a distribution of materials by class? So say for example 10% of the collection is in the 700s, and half of that is in the 741s, a quarter is in 746.432... This table: Table 4: Subject breakdown, nonfiction print books History and auxiliary sciences 8 percent Engineering and technology 7 percent Business and economics 7 percent Language, linguistics, and literature 6 percent Philosophy and religion 5 percent Health and medicine 5 percent Art and architecture 3 percent Law 3 percent Sociology 3 percent Education 3 percent Other 15 percent Unknown 35 percent From http://www.dlib.org/dlib/november09/lavoie/11lavoie.html isn't really granular enough. Thanks! -- Christina K. Pikas Librarian The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory Baltimore: 443.778.4812 D.C.: 240.228.4812 christina.pi...@jhuapl.edu -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] hathitrust research center workset browser
Right. Which is why *someone* copied all of the Google digitized books to the Internet Archive -- someone not associated with the library partners. So generally if you cannot download from HT you can find the same scan via openlibrary.org. Unfortunately that doesn't help with using the tool that ELM has alerted us to. kc On 6/1/15 2:19 PM, Jimmy Ghaphery wrote: I think we are in agreement (especially about the utility of all things HathiTrust). My one point is that any restrictions on digitized public domain works, as I understand it, are not related to copyright. On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Terry Reese ree...@gmail.com wrote: However, the digitizing agency cannot dictate any copyright restrictions on the digitized copies once released to the public The digital objects have not, and as far as I understand, cannot be made available to the public if digitized as part of the google books digitization project. Most institutions got very limited use, and generally these were tied to their specific, immediate, communities. Though, with that said each institution has slightly different terms. For what it's worth, the research center does not make the digital copies available for download -- it provides tools for working with data in aggregate (worksets) and provides a proof of concept environment demonstrating the feasibility of creating a secured data repository with I believe the long-term goal of providing data mining for the entire hathitrust resources (both within and outside of the public domain). But even as it stands now, the tool has become a fantastic teaching tool when talking to instructors and graduate students looking for large data sets to work with, that also includes some pretty interesting research algori! thms for working with the data. --tr -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Jimmy Ghaphery Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 4:47 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] hathitrust research center workset browser Thanks Eric for posting the webinar in the other thread. I am pretty sure that digitizing something in the public domain does not change its copyright status, at least in the U.S. The digitizing agency certainly has the right to sell, restrict access, watermark, or even keep the scans locked up on a thumb drive in a closet. They are not obligated to share or to provide the digital files in a re-usable format. However, the digitizing agency cannot dictate any copyright restrictions on the digitized copies once released to the public. #iamnotalawyer and welcome correction best, Jimmy On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: On Jun 1, 2015, at 10:58 AM, davesgonechina davesgonech...@gmail.com wrote: They just informed me I need a .edu address. Having trouble understanding the use of the term public domain here. Gung fhpx, naq fbhaqf ernyyl fbeg bs fghcvq!! --RYZ -- Jimmy Ghaphery Head, Digital Technologies VCU Libraries 804-827-3551 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] hathitrust research center workset browser
Eric, what happens if you access this from a non-HT institution? When I go to HT I am often unable to download public domain titles because they aren't available to members of the general public. kc On 5/26/15 8:30 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: In my copious spare time I have hacked together a thing I’m calling the HathiTrust Research Center Workset Browser, a (fledgling) tool for doing “distant reading” against corpora from the HathiTrust. [1] The idea is to: 1) create, refine, or identify a HathiTrust Research Center workset of interest — your corpus, 2) feed the workset’s rsync file to the Browser, 3) have the Browser download, index, and analyze the corpus, and 4) enable to reader to search, browse, and interact with the result of the analysis. With varying success, I have done this with a number of worksets ranging on topics from literature, philosophy, Rome, and cookery. The best working examples are the ones from Thoreau and Austen. [2, 3] The others are still buggy. As a further example, the Browser can/will create reports describing the corpus as a whole. This analysis includes the size of a corpus measured in pages as well as words, date ranges, word frequencies, and selected items of interest based on pre-set “themes” — usage of color words, name of “great” authors, and a set of timeless ideas. [4] This report is based on more fundamental reports such as frequency tables, a “catalog”, and lists of unique words. [5, 6, 7, 8] The whole thing is written in a combination of shell and Python scripts. It should run on just about any out-of-the-box Linux or Macintosh computer. Take a look at the code. [9] No special libraries needed. (“Famous last words.”) In its current state, it is very Unix-y. Everything is done from the command line. Lot’s of plain text files and the exploitation of STDIN and STDOUT. Like a Renaissance cartoon, the Browser, in its current state, is only a sketch. Only later will a more full-bodied, Web-based interface be created. The next steps are numerous and listed in no priority order: putting the whole thing on GitHub, outputting the reports in generic formats so other things can easily read them, improving the terminal-based search interface, implementing a Web-based search interface, writing advanced programs in R that chart and graph analysis, provide a means for comparing contrasting two or more items from a corpus, indexing the corpus with a (real) indexer such as Solr, writing a “cookbook” describing how to use the browser to to “kewl” things, making the metadata of corpora available as Linked Data, etc. 'Want to give it a try? For a limited period of time, go to the HathiTrust Research Center Portal, create (refine or identify) a collection of personal interest, use the Algorithms tool to export the collection's rsync file, and send the file to me. I will feed the rsync file to the Browser, and then send you the URL pointing to the results. [10] Let’s see what happens. Fun with public domain content, text mining, and the definition of librarianship. Links [1] HTRC Workset Browser - http://bit.ly/workset-browser [2] Thoreau - http://bit.ly/browser-thoreau [3] Austen - http://bit.ly/browser-austen [4] Thoreau report - http://ntrda.me/1LD3xds [5] Thoreau dictionary (frequency list) - http://bit.ly/thoreau-dictionary [6] usage of color words in Thoreau — http://bit.ly/thoreau-colors [7] unique words in the corpus - http://bit.ly/thoreau-unique [8] Thoreau “catalog” — http://bit.ly/thoreau-catalog [9] source code - http://ntrda.me/1Q8pPoI [10] HathiTrust Research Center - https://sharc.hathitrust.org — Eric Lease Morgan, Librarian University of Notre Dame -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Hours
Charlie, I don't know of any libraries that have used schema.org for their web site - perhaps others do. If it is used, it should be picked up the next time the search engines index the site. What the search engines do with schema.org is not guaranteed, but can be observed. It is not guaranteed because none of the search engines will say what they do, as that is considered a trade secret (especially from each other). However, as locations and hours are important for their commercial customers (stores, restaurants, etc.) I would expect that to be picked up as a matter of course. Note that already locations and hours for some businesses do show in the search engines, and that is for sites that are not yet using schema.org, so the engines have some way of picking that up from the HTML. The Google side-bar knowledge graph for my local libraries shows Hours https://www.google.com/search?sa=Xbiw=1299bih=561q=san+francisco+public+library+larkin+street+hoursstick=H4sIAGOovnz8BQMDgzYHnxCXfq6-gVlZhbF5sZZ0drKVfk5-cmJJZn4enGGVkV9aVBzLKeznIsHxlTMy2S10V0iJwvZlMgBPWBDOSAei=qhlKVcKWJ8b7oQS65oCQCAved=0CJgBEOgTMBA: Open today · 9:00 am – 8:00 pm javascript:void(0) but I have no idea where that comes from. kc On 5/6/15 5:22 AM, Charlie Morris wrote: I'm curious, Karen, Ethan or anyone else, do you know of any examples of libraries that have implemented schema.org or RDFa for hours data and have noticed that Google or some other search engine has picked it up (i.e., correctly displaying that data as part of the search results)? And if so, how quickly will Google or the like pickup on changes to hours (i.e., shifting between semesters or unplanned changes)? On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the RDFa and schema.org. For those that don't know the library URL off-hand, it is much easier to find a library website by Googling than it is to go through the central university portal, and the hours will show up at the top of the page after having been harvested by search engines. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Note that library hours is one of the possible bits of information that could be encoded as RDFa in the library web site, thus making it possible to derive library hours directly from the listing of hours on the web site rather than keeping a separate list. Schema.org does have the elements such that hours can be encoded. This would mean that hours could show in the display of the library's catalog entry on Google, Yahoo and Bing. Being available directly through the search engines might be sufficient, not necessitating creating yet-another-database for that data. Schema.org uses a restaurant as its opening hours example, but much of the data would be the same for a library: div vocab=http://schema.org/; typeof=Restaurant span property=nameGreatFood/span div property=aggregateRating typeof=AggregateRating span property=ratingValue4/span stars - based on span property=reviewCount250/span reviews /div div property=address typeof=PostalAddress span property=streetAddress1901 Lemur Ave/span span property=addressLocalitySunnyvale/span, span property=addressRegionCA/span span property=postalCode94086/span /div span property=telephone(408) 714-1489/span a property=url href=http://www.dishdash.com;www.greatfood.com/a Hours: meta property=openingHours content=Mo-Sa 11:00-14:30Mon-Sat 11am - 2:30pm meta property=openingHours content=Mo-Th 17:00-21:30Mon-Thu 5pm - 9:30pm meta property=openingHours content=Fr-Sa 17:00-22:00Fri-Sat 5pm - 10:00pm Categories: span property=servesCuisine Middle Eastern /span, span property=servesCuisine Mediterranean /span Price Range: span property=priceRange$$/span Takes Reservations: Yes /div It seems to me that using schema.org would get more bang for the buck -- it would get into the search engines and could also be aggregated into whatever database is needed. As we've seen with OCLC, having a separate listing is likely to mean that the data will be out of date. kc On 5/5/15 2:19 PM, nitin arora wrote: I can't see they distinguished between public libraries and other types on their campaign page. They say all libraries as far as I can see. So I suppose then that this is true for all libraries: Libraries offer a space anyone can enter, where money isn't exchanged, and documentation doesn't have to be shown. Who knew fines and library/student-IDs were a thing of the past? The only data sets I can find where they got the 17,000 number is for public libraries: http://www.imls.gov/research/pls_data_files.aspx Maybe I missed something. There is an hours field on one of the CSVs I downloaded, etc for 2012 data (the most recent I could find). Asking 10k for something targeted for completion in June and without a grasp on what types of libraries there are and how volatile the hours
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Hours
The search engine may not pick it up quickly enough, but the emergency services in the area could get it from the RDFa as soon as it hits the web. kc On 5/6/15 6:45 AM, nitin arora wrote: I think both creating a one-off list and schema.org approaches pose problems within the context of the original fund raising campaign's pitch. I don't think every library can necessarily implement the latter for a variety of reasons, not always technical. From the pov that a library can be a community center in a time of crisis, I'm wondering not only how quickly a search engine would pick that up but also, in such moments, how prioritized updating that data would be in the first place. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Charlie Morris cdmorri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, Karen, Ethan or anyone else, do you know of any examples of libraries that have implemented schema.org or RDFa for hours data and have noticed that Google or some other search engine has picked it up (i.e., correctly displaying that data as part of the search results)? And if so, how quickly will Google or the like pickup on changes to hours (i.e., shifting between semesters or unplanned changes)? On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the RDFa and schema.org. For those that don't know the library URL off-hand, it is much easier to find a library website by Googling than it is to go through the central university portal, and the hours will show up at the top of the page after having been harvested by search engines. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Note that library hours is one of the possible bits of information that could be encoded as RDFa in the library web site, thus making it possible to derive library hours directly from the listing of hours on the web site rather than keeping a separate list. Schema.org does have the elements such that hours can be encoded. This would mean that hours could show in the display of the library's catalog entry on Google, Yahoo and Bing. Being available directly through the search engines might be sufficient, not necessitating creating yet-another-database for that data. Schema.org uses a restaurant as its opening hours example, but much of the data would be the same for a library: div vocab=http://schema.org/; typeof=Restaurant span property=nameGreatFood/span div property=aggregateRating typeof=AggregateRating span property=ratingValue4/span stars - based on span property=reviewCount250/span reviews /div div property=address typeof=PostalAddress span property=streetAddress1901 Lemur Ave/span span property=addressLocalitySunnyvale/span, span property=addressRegionCA/span span property=postalCode94086/span /div span property=telephone(408) 714-1489/span a property=url href=http://www.dishdash.com;www.greatfood.com /a Hours: meta property=openingHours content=Mo-Sa 11:00-14:30Mon-Sat 11am - 2:30pm meta property=openingHours content=Mo-Th 17:00-21:30Mon-Thu 5pm - 9:30pm meta property=openingHours content=Fr-Sa 17:00-22:00Fri-Sat 5pm - 10:00pm Categories: span property=servesCuisine Middle Eastern /span, span property=servesCuisine Mediterranean /span Price Range: span property=priceRange$$/span Takes Reservations: Yes /div It seems to me that using schema.org would get more bang for the buck -- it would get into the search engines and could also be aggregated into whatever database is needed. As we've seen with OCLC, having a separate listing is likely to mean that the data will be out of date. kc On 5/5/15 2:19 PM, nitin arora wrote: I can't see they distinguished between public libraries and other types on their campaign page. They say all libraries as far as I can see. So I suppose then that this is true for all libraries: Libraries offer a space anyone can enter, where money isn't exchanged, and documentation doesn't have to be shown. Who knew fines and library/student-IDs were a thing of the past? The only data sets I can find where they got the 17,000 number is for public libraries: http://www.imls.gov/research/pls_data_files.aspx Maybe I missed something. There is an hours field on one of the CSVs I downloaded, etc for 2012 data (the most recent I could find). Asking 10k for something targeted for completion in June and without a grasp on what types of libraries there are and how volatile the hours information is (especially in crisis) ... Sounds naive at best, sketchy at worst. The flexible funding button says this campaign will receive all funds raised even if it does not reach its goals. The value of these places for youth cannot be underestimated. So is the value of a quick buck ... On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 4:53 PM, McCanna, Terran tmcca...@georgialibraries.org wrote: I'm not at all surprised that this doesn't already exist, and even if OCLC's was available, I'd be willing to bet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Hours
Right, but I don't think that meets any particular standard, which means that Google is doing a lot of text analysis when it indexes pages, looking for a pattern that looks like opening hours. That takes more cycles than having it all neatly wrapped in some known RDFa. kc On 5/6/15 6:54 AM, Tajoli Zeno wrote: Hi Open today · 9:00 am – 8:00 pm javascript:void(0) but I have no idea where that comes from. probably because the web page http://sfpl.org/index.php?pg=010101 insert library hours inside div id=library-hours /div Bye Zeno Tajoli -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Hours
Tom, Google will not tell you. The entirety of how Google search works is a trade secret. We don't know the algorithm for ranking, and we don't know what information they glean from web pages -- and they are unlikely to tell. It is a constant on the schema.org discussion list that developers want to know what Google/Bing/Yahoo/Yandex will do with specific information in the web pages, and it is a constant that the reps there reply: we cannot tell you that. The only way to find out is to code and observe. kc On 5/6/15 7:00 AM, Tom Keays wrote: I'd like to find out how and why Google is parsing this information. If you go to the the SFPL hours page (first link in the Google results), and look at the source code, this is all you find. http://sfpl.org/index.php?pg=010101 Is the ID in the DIV sufficient? It would be nice to have a set of use cases to work from. Currently, I'm generating a weekly hours box by pulling JSONP from the hours API of LibCal. I could easily output this in schema.org format (and probably will now), but can Google pick up the information from the DOM if it is delivered as JSON and transformed into HTML? div id=library-hours h2Hours/h2 table class=hours cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 tr thSun/th thMon/th thTue/th th class=todayWed/th thThu/th thFri/th thSat/th /tr tr td12-5/td td10-6/td td9-8/td td class=today9-8/td td9-8/td td12-6/td td10-6/td /tr /table /div On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Charlie, I don't know of any libraries that have used schema.org for their web site - perhaps others do. If it is used, it should be picked up the next time the search engines index the site. What the search engines do with schema.org is not guaranteed, but can be observed. It is not guaranteed because none of the search engines will say what they do, as that is considered a trade secret (especially from each other). However, as locations and hours are important for their commercial customers (stores, restaurants, etc.) I would expect that to be picked up as a matter of course. Note that already locations and hours for some businesses do show in the search engines, and that is for sites that are not yet using schema.org, so the engines have some way of picking that up from the HTML. The Google side-bar knowledge graph for my local libraries shows Hours https://www.google.com/search?sa=Xbiw=1299bih=561q=san+francisco+public+library+larkin+street+hoursstick=H4sIAGOovnz8BQMDgzYHnxCXfq6-gVlZhbF5sZZ0drKVfk5-cmJJZn4enGGVkV9aVBzLKeznIsHxlTMy2S10V0iJwvZlMgBPWBDOSAei=qhlKVcKWJ8b7oQS65oCQCAved=0CJgBEOgTMBA: Open today · 9:00 am – 8:00 pm javascript:void(0) but I have no idea where that comes from. kc On 5/6/15 5:22 AM, Charlie Morris wrote: I'm curious, Karen, Ethan or anyone else, do you know of any examples of libraries that have implemented schema.org or RDFa for hours data and have noticed that Google or some other search engine has picked it up (i.e., correctly displaying that data as part of the search results)? And if so, how quickly will Google or the like pickup on changes to hours (i.e., shifting between semesters or unplanned changes)? On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the RDFa and schema.org. For those that don't know the library URL off-hand, it is much easier to find a library website by Googling than it is to go through the central university portal, and the hours will show up at the top of the page after having been harvested by search engines. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Note that library hours is one of the possible bits of information that could be encoded as RDFa in the library web site, thus making it possible to derive library hours directly from the listing of hours on the web site rather than keeping a separate list. Schema.org does have the elements such that hours can be encoded. This would mean that hours could show in the display of the library's catalog entry on Google, Yahoo and Bing. Being available directly through the search engines might be sufficient, not necessitating creating yet-another-database for that data. Schema.org uses a restaurant as its opening hours example, but much of the data would be the same for a library: div vocab=http://schema.org/; typeof=Restaurant span property=nameGreatFood/span div property=aggregateRating typeof=AggregateRating span property=ratingValue4/span stars - based on span property=reviewCount250/span reviews /div div property=address typeof=PostalAddress span property=streetAddress1901 Lemur Ave/span span property=addressLocalitySunnyvale/span, span property=addressRegionCA/span span property=postalCode94086/span /div span property=telephone(408) 714-1489/span a property=url
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Hours
Yes, it definitely does. Which actually is a problem for Wikipedia because it encourages people/companies to try to get entries into WP for SEO purposes and so that the sidebox will show up. I spend a lot of time on the articles for deletion pages of WP trying to get these promotional pages out of the encyclopedia. A big success is when I see them disappear from search results. (BTW, the various ways that self-published authors of written crap game the system is truly astonishing. A+ for effort, and their skill in PR is way beyond their literary skills.) kc On 5/6/15 8:33 AM, Bigwood, David wrote: I have heard that at least part of the sidebox is constructed using data from Wikipedia, especially the structured info in the infobox there. Dave -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:21 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Hours Tom, Google will not tell you. The entirety of how Google search works is a trade secret. We don't know the algorithm for ranking, and we don't know what information they glean from web pages -- and they are unlikely to tell. It is a constant on the schema.org discussion list that developers want to know what Google/Bing/Yahoo/Yandex will do with specific information in the web pages, and it is a constant that the reps there reply: we cannot tell you that. The only way to find out is to code and observe. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Hours
I generally find that Bing makes better use of RDFa/schema.org than Google does. kc On 5/6/15 7:33 AM, Megan O'Neill Kudzia wrote: Hi all, I've been experimenting with schema.org OpeningHoursSpecification, and currently Bing is scraping our hours, but Google isn't. I am using RDFa-lite and I've validated it using a linter (thanks Jason Ronallo!), so I'm scratching my head as to why our hours *still* don't show up on a google search. I suspect part of it for us might be that we're re-branding away from Stockwell-Mudd Libraries to Albion College Library, as it's much more explanatory, but neither search through Google yields a nice box with hours in it like the SFPL. If and when I figure out the problem I'd be happy to send you an update of what we did and what caused it to finally work properly. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Tom, Google will not tell you. The entirety of how Google search works is a trade secret. We don't know the algorithm for ranking, and we don't know what information they glean from web pages -- and they are unlikely to tell. It is a constant on the schema.org discussion list that developers want to know what Google/Bing/Yahoo/Yandex will do with specific information in the web pages, and it is a constant that the reps there reply: we cannot tell you that. The only way to find out is to code and observe. kc On 5/6/15 7:00 AM, Tom Keays wrote: I'd like to find out how and why Google is parsing this information. If you go to the the SFPL hours page (first link in the Google results), and look at the source code, this is all you find. http://sfpl.org/index.php?pg=010101 Is the ID in the DIV sufficient? It would be nice to have a set of use cases to work from. Currently, I'm generating a weekly hours box by pulling JSONP from the hours API of LibCal. I could easily output this in schema.org format (and probably will now), but can Google pick up the information from the DOM if it is delivered as JSON and transformed into HTML? div id=library-hours h2Hours/h2 table class=hours cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 tr thSun/th thMon/th thTue/th th class=todayWed/th thThu/th thFri/th thSat/th /tr tr td12-5/td td10-6/td td9-8/td td class=today9-8/td td9-8/td td12-6/td td10-6/td /tr /table /div On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Charlie, I don't know of any libraries that have used schema.org for their web site - perhaps others do. If it is used, it should be picked up the next time the search engines index the site. What the search engines do with schema.org is not guaranteed, but can be observed. It is not guaranteed because none of the search engines will say what they do, as that is considered a trade secret (especially from each other). However, as locations and hours are important for their commercial customers (stores, restaurants, etc.) I would expect that to be picked up as a matter of course. Note that already locations and hours for some businesses do show in the search engines, and that is for sites that are not yet using schema.org, so the engines have some way of picking that up from the HTML. The Google side-bar knowledge graph for my local libraries shows Hours https://www.google.com/search?sa=Xbiw=1299bih=561q=san+francisco+public+library+larkin+street+hoursstick=H4sIAGOovnz8BQMDgzYHnxCXfq6-gVlZhbF5sZZ0drKVfk5-cmJJZn4enGGVkV9aVBzLKeznIsHxlTMy2S10V0iJwvZlMgBPWBDOSAei=qhlKVcKWJ8b7oQS65oCQCAved=0CJgBEOgTMBA : Open today · 9:00 am – 8:00 pm javascript:void(0) but I have no idea where that comes from. kc On 5/6/15 5:22 AM, Charlie Morris wrote: I'm curious, Karen, Ethan or anyone else, do you know of any examples of libraries that have implemented schema.org or RDFa for hours data and have noticed that Google or some other search engine has picked it up (i.e., correctly displaying that data as part of the search results)? And if so, how quickly will Google or the like pickup on changes to hours (i.e., shifting between semesters or unplanned changes)? On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the RDFa and schema.org. For those that don't know the library URL off-hand, it is much easier to find a library website by Googling than it is to go through the central university portal, and the hours will show up at the top of the page after having been harvested by search engines. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Note that library hours is one of the possible bits of information that could be encoded as RDFa in the library web site, thus making it possible to derive library hours directly from the listing of hours on the web site rather than keeping a separate list. Schema.org does have the elements such that hours can be encoded
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Hours
and hours of operation for all libraries in the US. We are going to track down the hours of operation for all 17,000 libraries and make that information available -- in Range and for other developers who may want to use it. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/range-food-and-safe-places-for-youth Are the hours of public libraries really not available? Sincerely, David Bigwood dbigw...@gmail.commailto:dbigw...@gmail.com Lunar and Planetary Institute @LPI_Library https://www.flickr.com/photos/lunarandplanetaryinstitute/ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Protagonists
On 4/14/15 7:18 AM, Joel Marchesoni wrote: It is a little disappointing that I couldn't find the IMDB of the literary world. Which reflects an interesting difference between books and movies -- movies have credits that list characters and actors. There are a few books that include character lists, but not many. You can get a list of Harry Potter characters from the movie because that list exists in the movie. The movie credits can also be considered authoritative in the same way that the title page of a book with the title and author is. Any list of characters that is not from the book itself has something of an authority problem. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Native MarcEdit for MacOSX
I wish I could teleport my rarely used iMac, but in keeping with current technology capabilities, I'll just donate digital monetary value. This is definitely a worthy cause. kc On 4/6/15 12:31 PM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: Terry Reese (thanks Terry if you are reading this) has offered to write a Object-C version of MarcEdit. In order to this he needed access to a Apple Hardware. While my initial proposal on Go Fund me below was for a Macbook Pro, we've since realized it need not be a portable device. My current arithmetic puts the price of this at ~US$1300 as opposed to the listed ~US$2400 Thanks for boosting this signal if you cannot otherwise help fund porting MarcEdit for the Mac OSX platform. http://www.gofundme.com/qtbzq4 Cheers, ./fxk -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Native MarcEdit for MacOSX
Have you had one? I started out with one a while back because it was indeed the cheapest Mac. It seemed underpowered at the time. Plus you have to add a screen to it, and a keyboard, and a mouse so the price goes up. On the plus size, it doesn't take up much room... without the screen, the keyboard... kc On 4/6/15 2:36 PM, Roy Tennant wrote: Better yet, get a brand-new Mac mini for what you've already raised: http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/mac-mini Roy On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: You might want to consider picking up a MacBook on Craigslist, or something like that. You can get a lot of only slightly vintage computer for $5-700. Cary Random ad: 13 MacBook ProTurbo 2.9GHz i5 Dual-core ϟ Thunderbolt! + 500GB Storage - $499 (Los Angeles) make / manufacturer: Apple MacBook Pro size / dimensions: 13 Up for sale my 13-inch Macbook Pro with free $40 case 2.3GHz Turbo 2.9Ghz 500GB Storage 4GB Ram DDR3 Thunderbolt USB FireWire On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Francis Kayiwa kay...@pobox.com wrote: Terry Reese (thanks Terry if you are reading this) has offered to write a Object-C version of MarcEdit. In order to this he needed access to a Apple Hardware. While my initial proposal on Go Fund me below was for a Macbook Pro, we've since realized it need not be a portable device. My current arithmetic puts the price of this at ~US$1300 as opposed to the listed ~US$2400 Thanks for boosting this signal if you cannot otherwise help fund porting MarcEdit for the Mac OSX platform. http://www.gofundme.com/qtbzq4 Cheers, ./fxk -- Your analyst has you mixed up with another patient. Don't believe a thing he tells you. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] PBCore RDF Ontology Hackathon Wiki page
Casey, I have some suggestions: 1) Everyone should read at least the first chapters of the Allemang book, Semantic Web for the Working Ontologist: http://www.worldcat.org/title/semantic-web-for-the-working-ontologist-effective-modeling-in-rdfs-and-owl/oclc/73393667 2) Everyone should understand the RDF meaning of classes, properties, domain and range before beginning. (cf: http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/11/classes-in-rdf.html) 3) Don't lean too heavily on Protege. Protege is very OWL-oriented and can lead one far astray. It's easy to click on check boxes without knowing what they really mean. Do as much development as you can without using Protege, and do your development in RDFS not OWL. Later you can use Protege to check your work, or to complete the code. 4) Develop in ntriples or turtle but NOT rdf/xml. RDF differs from XML in some fundamental ways that are not obvious, and developing in rdf/xml masks these differences and often leads to the development of not very good ontologies. kc On 1/5/15 9:35 AM, Casey Davis wrote: Hi Code4Libbers, In case you are interested in attending or staying in the know about the PBCore RDF ontology hackathon happening on February 7 8 before Code4Lib, check out the Wiki page: http://wiki.code4lib.org/PBCore_RDF_Hackathon. This is also where we will provide links to all documentation created during the hackathon. In case you are unable to join us, we will be using the hashtag #PBCoreRDF15 on the days of the event. Best, Casey Casey E. Davis, MLIS | Project Manager, American Archive of Public Broadcasting WGBH Media Library and Archives | WGBH Educational Foundation casey_da...@wgbh.orgmailto:casey_da...@wgbh.org | 617-300-5921 | One Guest Street | Boston, MA 02135 Subscribe to the American Archive bloghttp://americanarchivepb.wordpress.com/ Follow the #AmericanArchive @amarchivepub -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data and open access
Off the top of my head: http://www.epsiplatform.eu/content/what-linked-open-government-data http://aims.fao.org/agris http://data.gov.uk/location http://datos.bne.es/ http://statistics.data.gov.uk/ http://europeana.eu/ etc. What linked and open provide is exactly what it says - linked=able to be used in combination with data from other Web resources; open=anyone can use the data. There are projects that are using CSV or XSL files, but those function as self-contained bits of data, without the linking, even if they are openly available. kc On 12/22/14 7:30 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: And as has already been pointed out, no one has really show an impressive end user use for linked data, which American decision making tends to be more driven by. Well, that raises an important question -- whether an 'end user use', or other use, do people have examples of neat/important/useful things done with linked data in Europe, especially that would have been harder or less likely without the data being modelled/distributed as linked data? From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Brent Hanner [behan...@mediumaevum.com] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:11 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data and open access There are deeper issues at work here than just the kind of obvious surface issues. One of the reason Europe embraced rdf triples and linked data was timing. The EU was forming its centralized information institutions the same time the idea of linked data to solve certain problem came about. So they took it and ran with it. In the US we have been primarily driven by the big data movement that gained steam shortly after. And as has already been pointed out, no one has really show an impressive end user use for linked data, which American decision making tends to be more driven by. Europeans can think about data and databases differently than we can here in the US. In Europe a database is intellectual property, in the US only parts of the database that fall under copyright law are intellectual property, which for most databases isn't much. You can’t copyright a fact. So in the US once you release the data into the wild its usually public domain. As for government data, the Federal and most state governments are in need of an overhaul that would make it possible. If you don’t have the systems or people in place who can make it happen it won’t happen. Heck the federal government can’t even get a single set of accounting software and what not. So it isn’t just a lack of leadership or will, there are other things at work as well. Brent Sent from Windows Mail From: Karen Coyle Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 10:32 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Yep, yep, and yep. Plus I'd add that the lack of centralization of library direction (read: states) is also a hindrance here. Having national leadership would be great. Being smaller also wouldn't hurt. kc On 12/19/14 6:48 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: I don’t know about y’all, but it seems to me that things like linked data and open access are larger trends in Europe than here in the United States. Is there are larger commitment to sharing in Europe when compared to the United States? If so, is this a factor based on the nonexistence of a national library in the United States? Is this your perception too? —Eric Morgan -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data and open access
Yep, yep, and yep. Plus I'd add that the lack of centralization of library direction (read: states) is also a hindrance here. Having national leadership would be great. Being smaller also wouldn't hurt. kc On 12/19/14 6:48 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: I don’t know about y’all, but it seems to me that things like linked data and open access are larger trends in Europe than here in the United States. Is there are larger commitment to sharing in Europe when compared to the United States? If so, is this a factor based on the nonexistence of a national library in the United States? Is this your perception too? —Eric Morgan -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Wednesday afternoon reverie
Cynthia, it's been a while but I wanted to give you feedback... Ranking on importance based on library ownership and/or circulation is something that I've seen discussed but not implemented -- mainly due to the difficulty of gathering the data from library systems. But it seems like an obvious way to rank results, IMO. Too bad that one has to pay for BISAC headings. They tend to mirror the headings in bookstores (and ebook stores) that people might be familiar with. They capture fiction topics, especially, in a way to resonates with some users (topics like Teen Paranormal Romance). kc On 10/22/14 1:25 PM, Harper, Cynthia wrote: So I'm deleting all the Bisac subject headings (650_7|2bisacsh) from our ebook records - they were deemed not to be useful, especially as it would entail a for-fee indexing change to make them clickable. But I'm thinking if we someday have a discovery system, they'll be useful as a means for broader-to-narrower term browsing that won't require translation to English, as would call number ranges. As I watch the system slowly chunk through them, I think about how library collections and catalogs facilitate jumping to the most specific subjects, but browsing is something of an afterthought. What if we could set a ranking score for the importance of an item in browsing, based on circulation data - authors ranked by the relative circulation of all their works, same for series, latest edition of a multi-edition work given higher ranking, etc.? Then have a means to set the threshold importance value you want to look at, and browse through these general Bisac terms, or the classification? Or have a facet for importance threshold. I see Bisac sometimes has a broadness/narrowness facet (overview) - wonder how consistently that's applied, enough to be useful? Guess those rankings would be very expensive in compute time. Well, back to the deletions. Cindy Harper Electronic Services and Serials Librarian Virginia Theological Seminary 3737 Seminary Road Alexandria VA 22304 703-461-1794 char...@vts.edu -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib stickers
and for those of us with mushy brains who can't remember if they responded previously? ... kc On 11/4/14 4:29 PM, Riley Childs wrote: This is a reminder to fill out the code4lib stickers response form if you are interested (yeah, I haven't given up yet...), I am waiting to order until I have 50 people on the list (or enough where I can be sure I won't be left with leftovers). The google form is here: https://docs.google.com/a/tfsgeo.com/forms/d/1k-bQVSduKyOVMkXpJ_xOwk9SDjjEoX7QnQ4JTyp2BqI/viewform I am leaning towards a diecut sticker depending on further response. Filling out this form is not a commitment to purchase. Stickers will be printed by StickerMule and will be on demand following the initial batch. Those who purchase from the first batch will receive a 30% or more (depending on number of people who order) discount over the standard price. Thanks //Riley -- Riley Childs Senior Charlotte United Christian Academy IT Services Administrator Library Services Administrator https://rileychilds.net cell: +1 (704) 497-2086 office: +1 (704) 537-0331x101 twitter: @rowdychildren Checkout our new Online Library Catalog: https://catalog.cucawarriors.com Proudly sent in plain text -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey
Ed - I don't know why, but that sounds quite defensive. If your CV emphasizes speaking engagements and writings, then what you have written is relevant. But please look at the notability suggestions for Wikipedia for people and for academics before focusing on that one piece of information. I believe that I carefully explained that this was only one piece of information, that it wasn't absolute, and that notability is complex. Sheesh. kc On 9/20/14, 4:21 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: I don't know anything about the lawsuit or what has transpired to cause it, but since when does an H-index score make one a notable librarian? Many notable librarians don't publish anything at all. Edward On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the items you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never heard of this famous librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different conference circuit than he is.) I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered notable, there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party references, not provided by the individual in question. In terms of accomplishments, for example for academics, there is a list of measures, albeit not measurable in the scientific sense. [1] Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, RoyT, and for myself: http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04Jhl=enoi=ao http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAJhl=en http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QJhl=enoi=ao The h-index, while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication. I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical eye and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, which is that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the problems of notability for women. [2]) I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact you offline with other thoughts. kc [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29 [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote: Friends: I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank you profusely for the help. For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in $1.25M defamation case because From our official statement (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/) Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false, libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging, outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4. Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr. Murphy’s reputation. Right now we need the following most importantly: 1. We have a call out for additional witnesses (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who might -- please have them get in touch. 2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it. 3. onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks. We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed. Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has made this all very much worth while. Best, Lisa -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey
Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the items you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never heard of this famous librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different conference circuit than he is.) I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered notable, there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party references, not provided by the individual in question. In terms of accomplishments, for example for academics, there is a list of measures, albeit not measurable in the scientific sense. [1] Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, RoyT, and for myself: http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04Jhl=enoi=ao http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAJhl=en http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QJhl=enoi=ao The h-index, while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication. I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical eye and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, which is that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the problems of notability for women. [2]) I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact you offline with other thoughts. kc [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29 [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote: Friends: I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank you profusely for the help. For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in $1.25M defamation case because From our official statement (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/) Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false, libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging, outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4. Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr. Murphy’s reputation. Right now we need the following most importantly: 1. We have a call out for additional witnesses (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who might -- please have them get in touch. 2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it. 3. onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks. We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed. Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has made this all very much worth while. Best, Lisa -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey
Roy, this is pretty much in line with what I said, below: shameless self-promotion can be seen as a plus or at least not a minus for men, but few women would have replied the way you did. It does make you wonder how much more visible women would be if self-promotion were more culturally acceptable for them. Again, I refer to my blog post, which you may not have had time to read before posting. kc On 9/20/14, 12:41 PM, Roy Tennant wrote: Just a minor point. Despite my relative index score it doesn't necessarily mean that I am not a shameless self-promoter, it may just mean I've been at it longer. Just sayin'. Roy On Sep 20, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the items you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never heard of this famous librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different conference circuit than he is.) I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered notable, there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party references, not provided by the individual in question. In terms of accomplishments, for example for academics, there is a list of measures, albeit not measurable in the scientific sense. [1] Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, RoyT, and for myself: http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04Jhl=enoi=ao http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAJhl=en http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QJhl=enoi=ao The h-index, while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication. I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical eye and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, which is that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the problems of notability for women. [2]) I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact you offline with other thoughts. kc [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29 [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote: Friends: I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank you profusely for the help. For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in $1.25M defamation case because From our official statement (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/) Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false, libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging, outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4. Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr. Murphy’s reputation. Right now we need the following most importantly: 1. We have a call out for additional witnesses (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who might -- please have them get in touch. 2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it. 3. onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks. We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed. Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has made this all very much worth while. Best, Lisa -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Privacy audits Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP
Thanks, Bill. I actually didn't see this (must be a tweeter I don't follow? Or I'm running behind). I'll see what I can add. kc On 8/20/14, 8:29 AM, William Denton wrote: On 16 August 2014, Karen Coyle wrote: I think a Code4lib guide to library privacy or something of that nature would be a valuable contribution. I'd be happy to work with folks on it. I saw on Twitter that this is being built up: https://www.piratepad.ca/p/Library_Privacy_Audit I'm sure many of you knew about it but thought I'd mention it. Bill -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] metadata for free ebook repositories
Authors in OL have already been linked to Wikipedia, and Wikipedia has been linked to VIAF, and the OCLC number, when present, has been taken from the MARC record. Therefore the OL record in some cases already has these connections. kc On 8/18/14, 8:21 PM, Stuart Yeates wrote: I think what I'm looking for is a crowd-sourcing platform to add: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willa_Cather http://viaf.org/viaf/182113193/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_%C3%81ntonia http://www.worldcat.org/title/my-antonia/oclc/809034 ... to https://archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/myantonia00cathrich_marc.xml cheers stuart On 19/08/14 11:57, Karen Coyle wrote: About 1/3 of the 1M ebooks on OpenLibrary.org have full MARC records, and you can retrieve the record via the API. There is also a secret record format that returns not the full MARC for the hard copy (which is what the records represent because these are digitized books) but a record that has been modified to represent the ebook. The MARC records for the hard copy follow the pattern: https://archive.org/download/[archive identifier]/[archive identifier]_marc.[xml|mrc] Download MARC XML https://archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/myantonia00cathrich_marc.xml Download MARC binary https://www.archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/myantonia00cathrich_meta.mrc https://archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/myantonia00cathrich_meta.mrc To get the one that represents the ebook, do: https://archive.org/download/[archive identifier]/[archive identifier]_archive_marc.xml https://archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/myantonia00cathrich_archive_marc.xml This one has an 007, the 245 $h, and a few other things. Tom Morris did some code that helps you search for books by author and title and retrieve a MARC record. I don't recall where his github archive is, but I'll find out and post it here. The code is open source. We used it for a project that added ebook records to a public library catalog. You can also use the OPenLibrary API to select all open access ebooks. What I'd like to see is a way to create a list or bibliography in OL that then is imported into a program that will find MARC records for those books. The list function is still under development, though. kc On 8/18/14, 3:04 PM, Stuart Yeates wrote: There are a stack of great free ebook repositories available on the web, things like https://unglue.it/ http://www.gutenberg.org/ https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page http://www.gutenberg.net.au/ https://www.smashwords.com/books/category/1/newest/0/free/any etc, etc What there doesn't appear to be, is high-quality AACR2 / RDA records available for these. There are things like https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/meta/pg/ which are elaborate dublin core to MARC converters, but these lack standardisation of names, authority control (people, entities, places, etc), interlinking, etc. It seems to me that quality metadata would greatly increase the value / findability / use of these projects and thus their visibility and available sources. Are there any projects working in this space already? Are there suitable tools available? cheers stuart -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] metadata for free ebook repositories
It's hard to explain, but the Web-based mind of the Internet Archive just can't seem to grasp the role of individual library catalogs in helping people find books. The attitude seems to be: well, they should just search OL. The project I mentioned is an IMLS experiment to test ebook usage of these works through the addition of catalog records. There are lots of reasons why this is a good idea (selection, service to users...) but folks who don't use libraries don't and probably won't get it. There is an on-again off-again Internet Archive project to fill in the missing MARC records. I was told that if someone can create a file of MARC records with links to IA books, that they could be loaded. If anyone wants to work on this, I can put you in touch with the appropriate person. kc On 8/18/14, 5:32 PM, Dana Pearson wrote: Karen, It seems to me that the Open Library would want to broaden use of this great collection as much as possible. Yet, MARC records for the 1/3 or so items in the collection cannot be downloaded so that they could be imported into local library systems. Lots of users searching local libraries who might well use google and Open Library, Internet Archive for finding ebooks less frequently. I'll look at Tom Morris's code to see if I might automate record selection of Open Library records compared with element of MARCXML records of this last group of Guterberg Project additions. Thanks for that information. regards, dana On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: About 1/3 of the 1M ebooks on OpenLibrary.org have full MARC records, and you can retrieve the record via the API. There is also a secret record format that returns not the full MARC for the hard copy (which is what the records represent because these are digitized books) but a record that has been modified to represent the ebook. The MARC records for the hard copy follow the pattern: https://archive.org/download/[archive identifier]/[archive identifier]_marc.[xml|mrc] Download MARC XML https://archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/ myantonia00cathrich_marc.xml Download MARC binary https://www.archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/ myantonia00cathrich_meta.mrc https://archive.org/download/ myantonia00cathrich/myantonia00cathrich_meta.mrc To get the one that represents the ebook, do: https://archive.org/download/[archive identifier]/[archive identifier]_archive_marc.xml https://archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/ myantonia00cathrich_archive_marc.xml This one has an 007, the 245 $h, and a few other things. Tom Morris did some code that helps you search for books by author and title and retrieve a MARC record. I don't recall where his github archive is, but I'll find out and post it here. The code is open source. We used it for a project that added ebook records to a public library catalog. You can also use the OPenLibrary API to select all open access ebooks. What I'd like to see is a way to create a list or bibliography in OL that then is imported into a program that will find MARC records for those books. The list function is still under development, though. kc On 8/18/14, 3:04 PM, Stuart Yeates wrote: There are a stack of great free ebook repositories available on the web, things like https://unglue.it/ http://www.gutenberg.org/ https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page http://www.gutenberg.net.au/ https://www.smashwords.com/books/category/1/newest/0/free/any etc, etc What there doesn't appear to be, is high-quality AACR2 / RDA records available for these. There are things like https://ebooks.adelaide.edu. au/meta/pg/ which are elaborate dublin core to MARC converters, but these lack standardisation of names, authority control (people, entities, places, etc), interlinking, etc. It seems to me that quality metadata would greatly increase the value / findability / use of these projects and thus their visibility and available sources. Are there any projects working in this space already? Are there suitable tools available? cheers stuart -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] metadata for free ebook repositories
On 8/19/14, 2:30 PM, Stuart Yeates wrote: Authors in OL have already been linked to Wikipedia, and Wikipedia has been linked to VIAF, and the OCLC number, when present, has been taken from the MARC record. Therefore the OL record in some cases already has these connections. It's not just about authors. It's also about the work (+manifestation, +... ), the subject (particularly when the subject is separate work), the publisher, the illustrator, etc, etc. Stuart, yes, of course. But there are few entities that we have that are clearly encoded beyond authors. We have never developed identifiers for works or manifestations (although hopefully we will); subjects, at least in terms of LCSH, are a mess because we don't have a viable list of post-coordinated subject terms. I'm not quite sure what you are getting at, but I would suggest that low hanging fruit is not a bad place to begin. Nor that we should reject some links because we can't achieve all. kc cheers stuart -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] metadata for free ebook repositories
About 1/3 of the 1M ebooks on OpenLibrary.org have full MARC records, and you can retrieve the record via the API. There is also a secret record format that returns not the full MARC for the hard copy (which is what the records represent because these are digitized books) but a record that has been modified to represent the ebook. The MARC records for the hard copy follow the pattern: https://archive.org/download/[archive identifier]/[archive identifier]_marc.[xml|mrc] Download MARC XML https://archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/myantonia00cathrich_marc.xml Download MARC binary https://www.archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/myantonia00cathrich_meta.mrc https://archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/myantonia00cathrich_meta.mrc To get the one that represents the ebook, do: https://archive.org/download/[archive identifier]/[archive identifier]_archive_marc.xml https://archive.org/download/myantonia00cathrich/myantonia00cathrich_archive_marc.xml This one has an 007, the 245 $h, and a few other things. Tom Morris did some code that helps you search for books by author and title and retrieve a MARC record. I don't recall where his github archive is, but I'll find out and post it here. The code is open source. We used it for a project that added ebook records to a public library catalog. You can also use the OPenLibrary API to select all open access ebooks. What I'd like to see is a way to create a list or bibliography in OL that then is imported into a program that will find MARC records for those books. The list function is still under development, though. kc On 8/18/14, 3:04 PM, Stuart Yeates wrote: There are a stack of great free ebook repositories available on the web, things like https://unglue.it/ http://www.gutenberg.org/ https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page http://www.gutenberg.net.au/ https://www.smashwords.com/books/category/1/newest/0/free/any etc, etc What there doesn't appear to be, is high-quality AACR2 / RDA records available for these. There are things like https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/meta/pg/ which are elaborate dublin core to MARC converters, but these lack standardisation of names, authority control (people, entities, places, etc), interlinking, etc. It seems to me that quality metadata would greatly increase the value / findability / use of these projects and thus their visibility and available sources. Are there any projects working in this space already? Are there suitable tools available? cheers stuart -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis)
:-) Well, I don't know that I would use the word adorable, but it does warm my heart. I found, to my pleasure, that libraries were shredding the paper computer sign-up sheets every evening (or when they filled up). That was good. But then I found, to my displeasure, that they had a box on the table in the childrens' room where summer reading program kids wrote their name, school, and age, and that the box was not secured in any way from scrutiny by others. Gulp! So it's a mixed bag in most libraries. Plus, there's always a hoarder or two who will not get rid of obsolete records. One value of an audit is that timely record destruction becomes a *policy*. kc On 8/17/14, 11:54 AM, Debra Shapiro wrote: Conversation between 2 instructional staff at a library school: Staff 1, “Say, I went down to our departmental library, and had to use the little paper slip to take out a book, because it’s summer and after hours. You have to fill in the book title, book bar code, and your own name ID barcode. The fold the paper in half and stick it in a box. It’s got a little disclaimer on the bottom that the slip of paper will be destroyed as soon as the infor is entered into the system.” Staff 2, “That’s adorable.” On Aug 15, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Jason Bengtson j.bengtson...@gmail.com wrote: Generally speaking, I think surveillance is wretched stuff. But there is a point at which the hand wringing becomes a bit much. dsshap...@wisc.edu Debra Shapiro UW-Madison SLIS Helen C. White Hall, Rm. 4282 600 N. Park St. Madison WI 53706 608 262 9195 mobile 608 712 6368 FAX 608 263 4849 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
[CODE4LIB] Privacy audits Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP
Some years ago I did a few privacy audits for local public libraries, where they went through all of their data-gathering points (circulation, summer reading programs, vendors, patron letters to the library director...) [1] It was very useful for them to discover where data might leak. At the time, none of the libraries I was working with was terribly involved with social networking. I think it would be good to provide libraries with more information about what data is gathered via social networks, along with an analysis of where they are putting their patrons' privacy at risk. My guess is that many librarians are unaware of the data gathering done behind something like Google Analytics -- they just see a service that they need. And there's no use us complaining about it if we can't give good, solid information about 1) what data is gathered 2) what is the alternative. I think a Code4lib guide to library privacy or something of that nature would be a valuable contribution. I'd be happy to work with folks on it. kc [1] http://kcoyle.net/privacy_audit.html On 8/16/14, 10:12 AM, Riley Childs wrote: I think that pretty much sums up the situation ;) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Eric Hellmanmailto:e...@hellman.net Sent: 8/16/2014 1:06 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis) I think what we want is http://socialitejs.com/ On Aug 16, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Riley Childs rchi...@cucawarriors.com wrote: Another question for someone who utilizes these services: What analytics does this provide and are the social analytics worth losing your user's privacy? (I think not) Can't we make our own non dynamic share links Sent from my Windows Phone From: Eric Hellmanmailto:e...@hellman.net Sent: 8/16/2014 12:25 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis) So, 2 points worth discussing here. 1. I'll bet you most proxy servers are not proxying AddThis.com or Sharethis.com. So there wouldn't be any effect of proxying on the user tracking they do. 2. It really doesn't matter if you identify yourself to the catalog or not. You're being tracked across sites all over the internet. If you identify yourself to one of them, you can be identified. Note that the main concern here is if you use your own device to access the library's catalog. On Aug 15, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: On 8/15/14, 12:07 PM, Eric Hellman wrote: AddThis and ShareThis, on the other hand have TOS that let them use tracking for advertising, and that's what their business is. So, hypothetically, a teen could look at library catalog records for books about childbirth, and as a result, later be shown ads for pregnancy tests, and that would be something the library has permitted. Eric, I'm wondering about the full scenario that you are envisioning. Many libraries use proxy servers, so individual users are not identified. (Meaning that an 80-yr-old man may get the ad for the pregnancy test, not the teen.) In addition, in many cases the machine wipes itself clean daily, replacing all potential user files. (Someone else can explain this MUCH better than I just did.) In my public library, I do not identify myself to the use the catalog on site -- not even to use journal article databases, because 1) authentication takes place in the library system 2) the proxy server's IP is my identity for those services. I have no idea what exits the library when I hook my laptop to the open network. Shouldn't all of these factors be taken into account? Can anyone articulate them from the point of view of a public library? Note: At the university here at Berkeley, no network use is allowed without an account, so there is no anonymous use, at least on the human side of any proxy server that they run. But at the public library there is no log-on. So what is AddThis getting in those two situations? kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
[CODE4LIB] Parking, was: Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?
On 8/15/14, 10:18 AM, Joe Hourcle wrote: If you can offer them reduced tuition or parking (matters at some campuses) Have you heard what it takes to get your own parking space on Berkeley campus? A Nobel prize. Yep, you get a parking space with a Nobel, and every time there's a new Nobel winner on campus, he (so far) always gets interviewed by the school paper about how it feels to have a guaranteed parking place. [1] BTW, they are marked on campus with the letters NL ONLY - Nobel Laureate only.[2] kc [1] http://www.dailycal.org/2013/12/12/uc-berkeley-professor-nobel-laureate-winner-randy-schekman-answers-reddit-questions/ [2] http://makezine.com/2010/02/08/uc-berkeley-has-nobel-laureate-only/ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Parking, was: Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts?
Oh, they each have their own spot nearest their building, and they know what it is. However, I'd pay $$ to watch two NL's duke it out over a parking space. Seriously. Physics vs. chemistry? Biology vs. mathematics? Mathematics vs. economics (!)? Wow. kc On 8/15/14, 10:47 AM, Jim Gilbert(WTPL) wrote: Please tell me there is a policy about how the arrival of two NL's at the same spatial and temporal coordinates occupied by a NL-spot shall be handled!! :-D James Gilbert, BS, MLIS Systems Librarian Whitehall Township Public Library 3700 Mechanicsville Road Whitehall, PA 18052 610-432-4339 ext: 203 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 1:40 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Parking, was: Re: [CODE4LIB] Hiring strategy for a library programmer with tight budget - thoughts? On 8/15/14, 10:18 AM, Joe Hourcle wrote: If you can offer them reduced tuition or parking (matters at some campuses) Have you heard what it takes to get your own parking space on Berkeley campus? A Nobel prize. Yep, you get a parking space with a Nobel, and every time there's a new Nobel winner on campus, he (so far) always gets interviewed by the school paper about how it feels to have a guaranteed parking place. [1] BTW, they are marked on campus with the letters NL ONLY - Nobel Laureate only.[2] kc [1] http://www.dailycal.org/2013/12/12/uc-berkeley-professor-nobel-laureate-winner-randy-schekman-answers-reddit-questions/ [2] http://makezine.com/2010/02/08/uc-berkeley-has-nobel-laureate-only/ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis)
On 8/15/14, 12:07 PM, Eric Hellman wrote: AddThis and ShareThis, on the other hand have TOS that let them use tracking for advertising, and that's what their business is. So, hypothetically, a teen could look at library catalog records for books about childbirth, and as a result, later be shown ads for pregnancy tests, and that would be something the library has permitted. Eric, I'm wondering about the full scenario that you are envisioning. Many libraries use proxy servers, so individual users are not identified. (Meaning that an 80-yr-old man may get the ad for the pregnancy test, not the teen.) In addition, in many cases the machine wipes itself clean daily, replacing all potential user files. (Someone else can explain this MUCH better than I just did.) In my public library, I do not identify myself to the use the catalog on site -- not even to use journal article databases, because 1) authentication takes place in the library system 2) the proxy server's IP is my identity for those services. I have no idea what exits the library when I hook my laptop to the open network. Shouldn't all of these factors be taken into account? Can anyone articulate them from the point of view of a public library? Note: At the university here at Berkeley, no network use is allowed without an account, so there is no anonymous use, at least on the human side of any proxy server that they run. But at the public library there is no log-on. So what is AddThis getting in those two situations? kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis
Bill (others), are you running PrivacyBadger alongside AdBlock? I'm concerned about the confluence of decisions there, although tempted to try anyway. Thanks, kc On 8/13/14, 2:08 PM, William Denton wrote: On 13 August 2014, Karen Coyle wrote: *ps - I had a great cookie manager for a while, but it's no longer around. Cookie control in browsers actually was easier a decade ago - they've obviously been discouraged from including that software. If anyone knows of a good cookie program or plugin, I'd like to hear about it. I use Cookie Monster [0] and like it. Related: on my work box I'm trying out the EFF's Privacy Badger [1], which I hope will be a success. At home I use Disconnect [2], which blocks entire domains. It's great for cutting out cookies and junk like AddThis, but cripes, I hadn't realized how many people pull in Javascript libraries from Google or Yahoo. That's a harder way of tracking to avoid. Bill [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-monster/ [1] https://www.eff.org/privacybadger [2] https://disconnect.me/disconnect -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis
I think this would bother me more if I thought that there were a significant number of users who either do not use cookies at all, or who had some kind of effective cookie manager. I suspect that the actual number is very close to zero, in the .n range at best.* I have a problem with libraries using social media at all, actually, since it has turned out to be such a privacy disaster. When I go to what I think of as a benign site (my local library, DPLA, EFF!) and see that they've got a FB page that gathers likes it just chills me. I realize that all of these organizations need to maintain a level of visibility, and Facebook or Tumblr or whatever is a way to do that. However, there is no use of social media that can be argued as being privacy-neutral. It's a dilemma, I know. But I hate to see libraries and others seemingly promoting its use. As for web use, only Tor, and perhaps not even Tor, can give you something close to anonymity (except, perhaps, with the NSA). But it requires certain tech chops and an effort way beyond that of clearing out your cookies now and again, something that most people do not do. kc *ps - I had a great cookie manager for a while, but it's no longer around. Cookie control in browsers actually was easier a decade ago - they've obviously been discouraged from including that software. If anyone knows of a good cookie program or plugin, I'd like to hear about it. On 8/13/14, 10:22 AM, Eric Hellman wrote: It seems that Code4Lib hasn't discussed this., though the news is 2 weeks old. It seems that there are libraries using social share tools from AddThis, a company that has been using a technology called Canvas Fingerprinting to track users. In other words, it looks like libraries are giving away the user-privacy store. For example, AddThis is used by my public library's Polaris catalog (BCCLS). I'd be interested to learn how widespread this is. Here's the article from ProPublica. http://www.propublica.org/article/meet-the-online-tracking-device-that-is-virtually-impossible-to-block And a follow-on discussion from Princeton CITP https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/englehardt/the-hidden-perils-of-cookie-syncing/ The research article: https://securehomes.esat.kuleuven.be/~gacar/persistent/the_web_never_forgets.pdf Techdirt: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140721/14523127960/tons-sites-including-whitehousegov-experiment-with-tracking-technology-that-is-difficult-to-block.shtml Eric Eric Hellman President, Gluejar.Inc. Founder, Unglue.it https://unglue.it/ http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/ twitter: @gluejar -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] ACTION REQUESTED: Volunteer for 2015 Conference Committees
Hi, Tom. I guess we've got OSU as the place, but what are the dates? - kc On 8/12/14, 3:35 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: The 2015 Code4Lib annual conference may seem like a long way away, but it's already time for various volunteer committees to start work on the planning. As you know, the conference happens each year thanks to the work of the community at large; please take the time to sign up for confrence committees here: *http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2015_Conference_Committees http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2015_Conference_Committees* *We especially need people for the Keynote Speakers and Sponsorship committees.* These groups need to begin work ASAP and are short on membership. Thanks to everyone who has already signed up to help! -- Tom Johnson on behalf of the C4L15 PDX Team -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: +1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
Re: [CODE4LIB] Creating a Linked Data Service
Also, note that Martin Malmsten, of the Norwegian National Library (whose catalog is a linked data catalog) always states that one of the advantages of LD is that the difference between inside resources and outside resources disappears. It's all just linked resources. It makes sense to start with an inside resource, since you know more about it, but the same technology should work for any linking, anywhere, any time. kc On 8/8/14, 7:07 AM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote: Per Laura's message, and what I think was the underlying idea behind Mike's post, I think there's still a great opportunity to learn something new. Perhaps you might want to look at WebSocket [0], and Jason Ronallo's presentation from Code4lib 2014 [1] was a great intro. It seems like this might be a good candidate for showing real-time availability information. [0] https://www.websocket.org/ [1] http://jronallo.github.io/presentations/code4lib-2014-websockets/ Cheers, Mark -- Mark A. Matienzo m...@matienzo.org Director of Technology, Digital Public Library of America On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu wrote: I don't understand the publish it and they will come mentality when it comes to linked data. If you can't define a clear use case for your own data infrastructure, then I can't see how you would justify the time spent. The making data available to the world at large is a nice byproduct, but you can't write a use case for unknown users with unknown goals. So, if you have no plans to use the data in some productive way, then I'm sure you have more pressing things to do with your time. -Shaun On 8/7/14 9:48 AM, Scott Prater wrote: Echoing others... the use case for linked data appears to be making data available to the world at large, unknown consumers, who may find a use for it that you never imagined. Name authority services (like VIAF), catalogs of public resources, map data -- all these are good candidates for a linked data approach. Hardware availability at your library? Not so much. It's hard to imagine a case where that information would be useful outside your walls. -- Scott On 08/07/2014 08:09 AM, Ethan Gruber wrote: I agree with others saying linked data is overkill here. If you don't have an audience in mind or a specific purpose for implementing linked data, it's not worth it. On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Jason Stirnaman jstirna...@kumc.edu wrote: Mike, Check out http://json-ld.org/, http://json-ld.org/primer/latest/, and https://github.com/digitalbazaar/pyld But, if you haven't yet sketched out a model for *your* data, then the LD stuff will just be a distraction. The information on Linked Data seems overly complex because trying to represent data for the Semantic Web gets complex - and verbose. As others have suggested, it's never a bad idea to just do the simplest thing that could possibly work.[1] Mark recommended writing a simple API. That would be a good start to understanding your data model and to eventually serving LD. And, you may find that it's enough for now. 1. http://www.xprogramming.com/Practices/PracSimplest.html Jason Jason Stirnaman Lead, Library Technology Services University of Kansas Medical Center jstirna...@kumc.edu 913-588-7319 On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Michael Beccaria mbecca...@paulsmiths.edu wrote: I have recently had the opportunity to create a new library web page and host it on my own servers. One of the elements of the new page that I want to improve upon is providing live or near live information on technology availability (10 of 12 laptops available, etc.). That data resides on my ILS server and I thought it might be a good time to upgrade the bubble gum and duct tape solution I now have to creating a real linked data service that would provide that availability information to the web server. The problem is there is a lot of overly complex and complicated information out there onlinked data and RDF and the semantic web etc. and I'm looking for a simple guide to creating a very simple linked data service with php or python or whatever. Does such a resource exist? Any advice on where to start? Thanks, Mike Beccaria Systems Librarian Head of Digital Initiative Paul Smith's College 518.327.6376 mbecca...@paulsmiths.edu Become a friend of Paul Smith's Library on Facebook today! -- Shaun Ellis User Interface Developer, Digital Initiatives Princeton University Library 609.258.1698 “Any darn fool can get complicated. It takes genius to attain simplicity.” -Pete Seeger -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Have file will share
https://web.archive.org/web/20070209042706/http://www4.infotrieve.com/ariel/downloads.asp ?? kc On 7/17/14, 7:05 AM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Heya, I am looking for the Ariel Receive and Full file found at the 404'ing file in the URI below. http://www4.infotrieve.com/ariel/downloads.asp I've sent a message to @infotrieve.com that seems to have gone to a bitbucket. Thanks for sending this file my way. What is it with Library Vendors? Ugh! ./fxk - -- Don't stop to stomp ants when the elephants are stampeding. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTx9geAAoJEOptrq/fXk6Mp3MH/jd60zLIpzDTz/IjOEuzlfDs zihdbdvpmbAvwqgpDM12lsaGYE9NALi9GMW6RDVpXphjimfhGn222iOLTCB/B68R MzKto02pNSk6O3lfTKZuqfBrOJyjIEgUuSscwwurKRHxlfg3RBo9dcBMcmJoqG98 kJFzcOzmdq9SCT6SVu223nFwHArYnGgEUa0iveVnG9LtHCax5G8oEiBc2C9NWR9U V3sNKAW1APrr+87sDQ86JEsucJ4V3UtsSvSzWLOvWxU74Mo4Oms0wXD+bNl6u9Di uh95r2Pq8emxhAqTfVB9nrdGwcnfDCdCUkclXjW/Tan82wTBFx7+FNg9yxmwkG0= =ausY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
[CODE4LIB] Zoia Horn - RIP
From her family: Zoia died on July 12th, Saturday, around 7 am. She was in hospice and her family was with her. I'll do the sad update to her wikipedia page. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Is ISNI / ISO 27729:2012 a name identifier or an entity identifier?
I concur with Richard's analysis[1]. Each identifier type serves a different community. In particular, ORCID identifiers will tend to identify faculty and researchers whose sole output is journal articles -- thus who would not normally appear in a library authority file. The ISNI is sometimes seen as an interloper from the publishing community, but most likely is integrated into the publisher workflow (e.g. writing checks to authors). Like Richard, I don't see anything to worry about. You can use one, some, or all of the identifiers based on your needs. So a faculty digital repository may need to used ORCIDs because there are authors who are only identified by those. (Repositories are beginning to require ORCIDs for deposit.) The same repository can also use LCNA for some authors -- you are in no way limited to one identifier per person or system. If you are hoping to pull in author data in your library catalog from wiki/DB/pedia, then you might favor the VIAF identifier, since this is being linked to the pedia world. This seems to me to be quite similar to other data and metadata choices that we make: define your use case, then choose the data that meets that need. kc [1] One possible difference is that I would consider ORCID a viable URI for linked data purposes, although at the moment ORCID does not export its data in RDF. All of the identifiers listed below are HTTP URIs. On 6/20/14, 7:56 AM, Richard Wallis wrote: Hi Eric, What distinguishes one from another? The communities behind them, the [often overlapping] communities they are intended to serve, and the technical implementation. As a librarian, why should I care? I would, as a non-librarian, suggest that once you are happy with the ‘authority’ of them, you shouldn’t have to care. Ideally, we are not there yet, systems should be flexible and accommodating enough to link to any appropriate authority. I will probably get flamed for over generalisation here but - VIAF is an aggregation of National Libraries Authority files. - ISNI is a more publisher focused but similar effort. - OCID comes from and and tries to serve individual academic institutions, their researchers and falsity authors. authority control |simple identifier |Linked Data capability +-+--+--+ VIAF |X|X | X | +-+--+--+ ORCID | | X| | +-+--+--+ ISNI |X| X|X | +-+--+--+ ~Richard On 20 June 2014 15:42, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Richard Wallis richard.wal...@dataliberate.com wrote: ISNI has a suite of programs that detects pseudonyms coded as name variants and changes them into related name and generates related identity records. It is a while since it was run and will be re-run in the next few weeks. This should change Currer Bell into a related name of Charlotte Brontë . Please humor me as I ask this question again. What is the difference between ISNI and other identifiers systems (like ORCID, etc.)? What distinguishes one from another? As a librarian, why should I care? Was as a faculty member/scholar, why should I care? Under what context is one identifier expected to be used instead of another? Maybe a picture/graph is in order: authority control simple pointer +-+--+ VIAF |X| | +-+--+ ORCID | | X| +-+--+ ISNI | | | +-+--+ — Eric Lease Morgan -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Is ISNI / ISO 27729:2012 a name identifier or an entity identifier?
On 6/20/14, 11:38 AM, Richard Wallis wrote: In what ways does ISNI support linked data? See: http://www.isni.org/how-isni-works#HowItWorks_LinkedData accessible by a persistent URI in the form isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/000134596520 (for example) and soon also in the form isni.org/isni/000134596520. Odd. I assume that whoever wrote that on their page just forgot the http://; part of those strings. Right? kc ~Richard On 20 June 2014 18:57, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Richard Wallis richard.wal...@dataliberate.com wrote: authority control|simple identifier |Linked Data capability +-+--+--+ VIAF |X|X | X | +-+--+--+ ORCID | |X | | +-+--+--+ ISNI |X|X | X | +-+--+--+ Increasingly I like linked data, and consequently, here is clarification and a question. ORCID does support RDF, but only barely. It can output FOAF-like data, but not bibliographic. Moreover, it is experimental, at best: curl -L -H 'accept: application/rdf+xml' http://orcid.org/-0002-9952-7800 In what ways does ISNI support linked data? --- Eric Morgan -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Is ISNI / ISO 27729:2012 a name identifier or an entity identifier?
On 6/20/14, 1:49 PM, Joe Hourcle wrote: Now, it's possible that this whole we don't need to bother with http://; thing has spilled into the CMS building community, and they're actively stripping it out. I actually had the editors of an ALA publication remove http://; whenever it preceded www because they were convinced that you only needed http://; when there was no www at the front of the domain name. I had to fight to get the http://; put back in. (I believe the excuse was that it took up space.) From their page, I think they're using Drupal, but the horrible block of HTML that this was in is blatantly MS Word's 'save as HTML' foulness: h2span lang=EN-USa name=HowItWorks_LinkedData/aLinked Data/span/h2 p class=MsoNormalspan lang=EN-USLinked data is part of the ISNI-IA’s strategy to make ISNIs freely available and widely diffused.nbsp; Each assigned ISNI is accessible by a persistent URI in the form isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/000134596520 (for example) nbsp;and soon also in the form isni.org/isni/000134596520.nbsp;/span/p p class=MsoNormalspan lang=EN-USComing soon:nbsp; ISNI core metadata in RDF triples.nbsp; The RDF triples will be embedded in the public web pages and the format will be available via the persistent URI and the SRU search API./span/p p class=MsoNormalspan lang=EN-USnbsp;/span/p Which is so foul that Dreamweaver has a Clean up Word HTML command in its menu. But you still end up with pretty bad HTML. kc -Joe On 20 June 2014 18:57, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Richard Wallis richard.wal...@dataliberate.com wrote: authority control|simple identifier |Linked Data capability +-+--+--+ VIAF |X|X | X | +-+--+--+ ORCID | |X | | +-+--+--+ ISNI |X|X | X | +-+--+--+ Increasingly I like linked data, and consequently, here is clarification and a question. ORCID does support RDF, but only barely. It can output FOAF-like data, but not bibliographic. Moreover, it is experimental, at best: curl -L -H 'accept: application/rdf+xml' http://orcid.org/-0002-9952-7800 In what ways does ISNI support linked data? --- Eric Morgan -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] software for a glossary
On 6/20/14, 1:16 PM, Tom Keays wrote: Crossing the thread over to linked author data, this item made me laugh. http://w3cmemes.tumblr.com/post/76273506486/dave-started-reviewing-open-annotations-today The only thing worse would be: OMG IT'S FULL OF OWL kc On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: Do you know of a Web-based tool or piece of desktop software that would let a professor post a text in a frame, then highlight words or phrases and link them to a glossary? A quick-and-dirty web page (possibly attached) and link below illustrates the idea: http://dh.crc.nd.edu/tmp/glossary.html — Eric Morgan -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Does 'Freedom to Read' require us to systematically privilege HTTPS over HTTP?
On 6/16/14, 1:49 PM, Galen Charlton wrote: However, I think that's only part of the picture for ILSs. Other parts would include: * staff training on handling patron and circulation data * ensuring that the ILS has the ability to control (and let users control) how much circulation and search history data gets retained * ensuring that the ILS backup policy strikes the correct balance between having enough for disaster recovery while not keeping individually identifiable circ history forever * ensuring that contracts with ILS hosting providers and services that access patron data from the ILS have appropriate language concerning data retention and notification of subpoenas. Regards, Galen Echoing Galen, staff training is very important. One way to begin this is by having the staff do a privacy audit, where they make sure that the library understands the reality of its practices, and makes changes where it should and can. I have examples and materials at: http://kcoyle.net/privacy_audit.html although these were developed mainly for public libraries. Part of the process is setting up a chain of command for privacy issues. For US libraries, Mary Minow has given talks to librarians on what to do if law enforcement shows up at your door. According to her experience, they often try to find a library staff member who has access to systems but who isn't at a management level, and they tend to try to (and mostly succeed to) intimidate. Knowing the law makes a difference. So for US libraries, there is: http://librarylaw.com/Privacy.html kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] mailing list administratativia
Mine is bibliounitarian -- for those who believe in a single record model for bibliographic data, as opposed to biblioquatritarians (FRBR-ites) or biblioduotarians (Bibframers). kc On 6/9/14, 3:30 PM, Eric Hellman wrote: I assume you've discovered the word is usually spelled administrivia. It's fun making up words. My latest is bibliopotheosis On May 29, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: * Apparently “administratativia” is a word of my own design because a search of it in Google returns only postings I’ve written. No wonder my spell checker doesn’t like it. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] orcid and researcherid and scopus, oh my
On 6/4/14, 8:01 PM, Dave Caroline wrote: You seem to have multiple so none are unique :) Just in case this was the confusion, the U in URI stands for Uniform. As Jodi says, there is no requirement for uniqueness of identifiers on the web. In fact, non-uniqueness is a feature, not a bug. It mirrors reality, where you have an SSN, a library card number, a driver's license number, etc., and each identifies you in some context. kc couple of instances where these sort of identifiers are being put into MARC and what happens when one of the servers falls off the net or some boss decides to modify a service, lots of data to fixup, yet again Dave Caroline, not convinced of the linked world prophesies yet -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] orcid and researcherid and scopus, oh my
My understand was that ISNI comes out of the publishing world -- primarily commercial publishing. The Wikipedia article puts it: The ISNI allows a single identity (such as an author's pseudonym https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonym or the imprint https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprint used by a publisher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publisher) to be identified using a unique number. This unique number can then be linked to any of the numerous other identifiers that are used across the media industries to identify names and other forms of identity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Name_Identifier The interesting thing about the numbers listed by Eric is that although there is overlap, each has some identities that the others don't. AFAIK, ORCID will not include people who died before the system was developed, and ISNI may not include folks whose works are long out of print. Also, the maintenance of them differs: ISNI is assigned by an agency (as is LCNA), while ORCIDs are considered to be under the control of the identified person. kc On 6/4/14, 9:20 PM, David Lowe wrote: Been tracking the ORCiD/ISNI thing for a few months now. Here was a nice graphic that I think this group will appreciate of how CU-Boulder sees ORCiDs across their systems from a recent ORCiD event: [cid:image001.jpg@01CF79CD.64C36FA0] Individual academics (especially grant-related folks) should get and use ORCiDs, which either the individual can register for or their affiliate institutions may assign in batches with an institutional membership. An ISNI, in contrast, may be assigned to an individual, often for rights-tracking purposes, as in the case of recorded performances. Also ISNIs can be given to organizations (corporate bodies, in catalogerese) while ORCiDs are only for individuals. --DBL -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric Lease Morgan Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 3:55 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] orcid and researcherid and scopus, oh my On Jun 4, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.commailto:jschnei...@pobox.com wrote: However, I believe that ISNI is bridging between these various sources -- certainly including LC and VIAF [1], and also ORCID [2]. [1] http://www.isni.org/content/data-contributors [2] From http://orcid.org/content/what-relationship-between-isni-and-orcid ORCID identifiers utilize a format compliant with the ISNI ISO standard. ISNI has reserved a block of identifiers for use by ORCID, so there will be no overlaps in assignments. I'm glad ISNI's have been mentioned. Thank you. I had not heard about ISNIs until very recently, and I was both embarrassed as well as surprised. Sure, I've read the Web pages, [1] but what are ISNIs? How are they different from other identifiers, and is it just my imagination or have they simply not become as popular here in the 'States as they are in Europe, and why? [1] ISNI - http://isni.org/ - Eric M. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] orcid and researcherid and scopus, oh my
Eric, I do think that there is a difference between identification and the uses that libraries have made of authorities. Part of it is historical -- that libraries began using authority control before the use of computers. Library authority control controls the form of the display of the name as its way to achieve uniqueness. Some of the identifiers listed do not provide a preferred form of the name. Instead, they provide a machine-readable identifier that brings together the variant forms of the name that have been used in publications. Among these is VIAF, btw. VIAF identifies a person by clustering the authority records for that person. These authority files have preferred name forms, but there is no preferred display form of the name associated with the VIAF identifier. This brings up the question of whether/when identifiers can perform the functions that are performed today by library authority control; is a single form of the name needed if the person can be identified in another way? Catalogers, in my experience, answer Yes, users need to see a single form of the name. However, the world of journal articles simply does not provide this, and it appears that ambiguity in names will be resolved through identifiers rather than name forms. kc On 6/4/14, 8:27 PM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: * ORCID - http://orcid.org/-0002-9952-7800 * ResearcherID - http://www.researcherid.com/rid/F-2062-2014 * Scopus - http://www.scopus.com/authid/detail.url?authorId=25944695600 * VIAF - http://viaf.org/viaf/26290254 * LC - http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n94036700 * ISNI - http://isni.org/isni/35290715 How have any of y'all used theses sorts of identifiers, and what problems do you think you will be able to solve by doing so? Each of these identifiers are essentially keys in a table, and the table often points to written works. To what degree are these sorts of things intended to be “authority records” and to what degree are they simply expected to be identifiers? What’s the difference? I do know that things like ORCIDs are intended to be included in grant and journal submissions — so they are keys also pointing to things like names, addresses, affiliations, etc. If there is computer-readable data/information at the other end of the identifiers, then, the data/information could be collected to create reports, such as on-the-fly curriculum vitas or departmental publication reports. —ELM -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] separate list for jobs
On 5/7/14, 5:37 AM, Sarah Shealy wrote: you're creating an artificial divide between us and them. No one is 'intruding' on anyone - it's a public forum for people who work in LIBRARIES (aka - places where inclusion is supposed to rule) without any filtering of participants, so technically anyone with an email address is part of the 'ingroup'. Yeah, Sarah! I think this is a good reminder that the attitude of if you don't know, you don't belong here is NOT what c4l is about. Instead, it should be if you don't know, let me help you learn what you need to know. At the same time, if someone asks a question that you don't have the time or patience to answer, just let it flow by -- someone else will catch it. You don't have to read every post to c4l, and you definitely are not obligated to answer questions that come to the list. Delete key. The all-important delete key. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Italian lectures on semantic web and Linked Data
Mille grazie, Stefano! - kc On 5/7/14, 8:32 AM, Stefano Bargioni wrote: Hi, Karen: the recorderd video is available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN9gEM0RmqE. Eric Lease Morgan starts at 36min Giovanni Bergamin starts at 1h 30min Stefano Bargioni starts at 2h 03min Koha Gruppo Italiano https://www.facebook.com/KohaGruppoItaliano will add links to ppt asap. Thanks. Stefano On 06/mag/2014, at 16.29, Karen Coyle wrote: Thanks, Stefano. The time zone difference makes this pretty much impossible for some of us. Will the talks be recorded for later viewing? kc On 5/6/14, 2:09 AM, Stefano Bargioni wrote: Koha Gruppo Italiano is pleased to announce that you can follow the conference Italian lectures on semantic web and Linked Data: practical examples for libraries via a streaming on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN9gEM0RmqE starting from May 7th, 2014 9:00 AM (CET). Mostly in Italian. The full program is available at www.pusc.it/sites/default/files/bib/7maggio2014.pdf You are warmly welcome to participate. Stefano PS : apologies for cross posting. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Italian lectures on semantic web and Linked Data
Thanks, Stefano. The time zone difference makes this pretty much impossible for some of us. Will the talks be recorded for later viewing? kc On 5/6/14, 2:09 AM, Stefano Bargioni wrote: Koha Gruppo Italiano is pleased to announce that you can follow the conference Italian lectures on semantic web and Linked Data: practical examples for libraries via a streaming on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN9gEM0RmqE starting from May 7th, 2014 9:00 AM (CET). Mostly in Italian. The full program is available at www.pusc.it/sites/default/files/bib/7maggio2014.pdf You are warmly welcome to participate. Stefano PS : apologies for cross posting. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] barriers to open metadata?
My question has to do with discoverability. Let's say that I have a bibliographic database and I want to add the OCLC work identifiers to it. Obviously I don't want to do it by hand. I might have ISBNs, but in some cases I will have a regular author/title-type citation. and let's say that I am asking this for two different institutions: a) is an OCLC member institution b) is not Thanks, kc On 4/30/14, 8:47 AM, Dan Scott wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Roy Tennant roytenn...@gmail.com wrote: This has now instead become a reasonable recommendation concerning ODC-BY licensing [3] but the confusion and uncertainty about which records an OCLC member may redistribute remains. [3] http://www.oclc.org/news/releases/2012/201248.en.html Allow me to try to put this confusion and uncertainty to rest once and for all: ALL THE THINGS. ALL. At least as far as we are concerned. I think it's well past time to put the past in the past. That's great, Roy. That's a *lot* simpler than parsing the recommendations, WCRR, community norms, and such at [A, B] :) Meanwhile, we have just put nearly 200 million works records up as linked open data. [1], [2], [3]. If that doesn't rock the library open linked data world, then no one is paying attention. Roy [1] http://oclc.org/en-US/news/releases/2014/201414dublin.html [2] http://dataliberate.com/2014/04/worldcat-works-197-million-nuggets-of-linked-data/ [3] http://hangingtogether.org/?p=3811 Yes, that is really awesome. But Laura was asking about barriers to open metadata, so damn you for going off-topic with PR around a lack of barriers to some metadata (which, for those who have not looked yet, have a nice ODC-BY licensing statement at the bottom of a given Works page) :) A. http://oclc.org/worldcat/community/record-use.en.html B. http://oclc.org/worldcat/community/record-use/data-licensing/questions.en.html -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] getting URIs, was: [CODE4LIB] barriers to open metadata?
Thanks, Richard. I ask because it's one of the most common questions
that I get -- often about WorldCat, but in general about any source of
URIs -- How do I connect my data (text forms) to their URIs? And these
questions usually come from library or archive projects with little or
no programming staff. So it seems like we need to be able to answer that
question so that people can get linked up. In fact, it seems to me that
the most pressing need right now is an easy way (or one that someone
else can do for you at a reasonable cost) to connect the text string
identifiers that we have to URIs. I envision something like what we
went through when we moved from AACR name forms to AACR2 name forms, and
libraries were able to send their MARC records to a service that
returned the records with the new name form. In this case, though, such
a service would return the data with the appropriate URIs added. (In the
case of MARC, in the $0 subfield.)
It's great that the big guys like LC and OCLC are providing URIs for
resources. But at the moment I feel like it's grapes dangling just
beyond the reach of the folks we want to connect to. Any ideas on how to
make this easy are welcome. And I do think that there's great potential
for an enterprising start-up to provide an affordable service for
libraries and archives. Of course, an open source pass in your data in
x or y format and we'll return it with URIs embedded would be great,
but I think it would be reasonable to charge for such a service.
kc
On 4/30/14, 9:59 AM, Richard Wallis wrote:
To unpack the several questions lurking in Karen’s question.
As to being able to use the WorldCat Works data/identifiers there is no
difference between a or b - it is ODC-BY licensed data.
Getting a Work URI may be easier for a) as they should be able to identify
the OCLC Number and hence use the linked data from it’s URI
http://worldcat.org/oclc/{ocn} to pick up the link to it’s work.
Tools such as xISBN http://xisbn.worldcat.org/xisbnadmin/doc/api.htm can
step you towards identifier lookups and are openly available for low volume
usage.
Citation lookup is more a bib lookup feature, that you could get an OCLC
Number from. One of colleagues may be helpful on the particulars of this.
Apologies for being WorldCat specific, but Karen did ask.
~Richard.
On 30 April 2014 17:15, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
My question has to do with discoverability. Let's say that I have a
bibliographic database and I want to add the OCLC work identifiers to it.
Obviously I don't want to do it by hand. I might have ISBNs, but in some
cases I will have a regular author/title-type citation.
and let's say that I am asking this for two different institutions:
a) is an OCLC member institution
b) is not
Thanks,
kc
On 4/30/14, 8:47 AM, Dan Scott wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Roy Tennant roytenn...@gmail.com
wrote:
This has now instead become a reasonable recommendation
concerning ODC-BY licensing [3] but the confusion and uncertainty
about which records an OCLC member may redistribute remains.
[3] http://www.oclc.org/news/releases/2012/201248.en.html
Allow me to try to put this confusion and uncertainty to rest once and
for
all:
ALL THE THINGS. ALL.
At least as far as we are concerned. I think it's well past time to put
the
past in the past.
That's great, Roy. That's a *lot* simpler than parsing the
recommendations, WCRR, community norms, and such at [A, B] :)
Meanwhile, we have just put nearly 200 million works records up as linked
open data. [1], [2], [3]. If that doesn't rock the library open linked
data
world, then no one is paying attention.
Roy
[1] http://oclc.org/en-US/news/releases/2014/201414dublin.html
[2]
http://dataliberate.com/2014/04/worldcat-works-197-million-
nuggets-of-linked-data/
[3] http://hangingtogether.org/?p=3811
Yes, that is really awesome. But Laura was asking about barriers to
open metadata, so damn you for going off-topic with PR around a lack
of barriers to some metadata (which, for those who have not looked
yet, have a nice ODC-BY licensing statement at the bottom of a given
Works page) :)
A. http://oclc.org/worldcat/community/record-use.en.html
B. http://oclc.org/worldcat/community/record-use/data-
licensing/questions.en.html
--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: 1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet
--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: 1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] getting URIs, was: [CODE4LIB] barriers to open metadata?
Jonathan, I think we can point to some interesting benefits. If you take
a look at what the BBC has done with their Wildlife site [1] and then
look at the new FAO catalog [2] you can see how a page can be enhanced
with useful data based on URIs in the bibliographic records. Imagine
being able to add the short author bio from Wikipedia to a record
display. etc. etc. [3] Or linking from a person as subject to the New
York times data page for that person. [4]
Now, I know that your reply will be: but only if the vendors do it.
Well, godammnit, we sure as hell can't wait for them - they are
followers, not leaders. (And maybe this will give a boost to OS catalogs
that don't have to wait for the unwieldy barge of library systems to
make its change of direction.)
Note also that linked data is already happening in libraries in Europe,
and the entire Europeana and DPLA are being developed as LD databases.
This isn't some far out future nuttiness. We're actually running behind.
kc
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/BBC/
[2] Info: http://aims.fao.org/agris; search interface:
http://agris.fao.org/agris-search/index.do
[3] try this out in: https://apps.facebook.com/WorldCat/
[4] http://data.nytimes.com/N20483401082089183163 (R. Nixon) which links
to page with a huge list of articles
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/n/richard_milhous_nixon/index.html
On 4/30/14, 11:13 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
If you want libraries to spend money on adding URI's to their data,
there is going to need to be some clear benefit they get from doing it
-- and it needs to be a pretty near-term benefit, not Well, some day
all these awesome things might happen, because linked data.
On 4/30/14 1:34 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
Thanks, Richard. I ask because it's one of the most common questions
that I get -- often about WorldCat, but in general about any source of
URIs -- How do I connect my data (text forms) to their URIs? And these
questions usually come from library or archive projects with little or
no programming staff. So it seems like we need to be able to answer that
question so that people can get linked up. In fact, it seems to me that
the most pressing need right now is an easy way (or one that someone
else can do for you at a reasonable cost) to connect the text string
identifiers that we have to URIs. I envision something like what we
went through when we moved from AACR name forms to AACR2 name forms, and
libraries were able to send their MARC records to a service that
returned the records with the new name form. In this case, though, such
a service would return the data with the appropriate URIs added. (In the
case of MARC, in the $0 subfield.)
It's great that the big guys like LC and OCLC are providing URIs for
resources. But at the moment I feel like it's grapes dangling just
beyond the reach of the folks we want to connect to. Any ideas on how to
make this easy are welcome. And I do think that there's great potential
for an enterprising start-up to provide an affordable service for
libraries and archives. Of course, an open source pass in your data in
x or y format and we'll return it with URIs embedded would be great,
but I think it would be reasonable to charge for such a service.
kc
On 4/30/14, 9:59 AM, Richard Wallis wrote:
To unpack the several questions lurking in Karen’s question.
As to being able to use the WorldCat Works data/identifiers there is no
difference between a or b - it is ODC-BY licensed data.
Getting a Work URI may be easier for a) as they should be able to
identify
the OCLC Number and hence use the linked data from it’s URI
http://worldcat.org/oclc/{ocn} to pick up the link to it’s work.
Tools such as xISBN http://xisbn.worldcat.org/xisbnadmin/doc/api.htm
can
step you towards identifier lookups and are openly available for low
volume
usage.
Citation lookup is more a bib lookup feature, that you could get an
OCLC
Number from. One of colleagues may be helpful on the particulars of
this.
Apologies for being WorldCat specific, but Karen did ask.
~Richard.
On 30 April 2014 17:15, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
My question has to do with discoverability. Let's say that I have a
bibliographic database and I want to add the OCLC work identifiers to
it.
Obviously I don't want to do it by hand. I might have ISBNs, but in
some
cases I will have a regular author/title-type citation.
and let's say that I am asking this for two different institutions:
a) is an OCLC member institution
b) is not
Thanks,
kc
On 4/30/14, 8:47 AM, Dan Scott wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Roy Tennant roytenn...@gmail.com
wrote:
This has now instead become a reasonable recommendation
concerning ODC-BY licensing [3] but the confusion and uncertainty
about which records an OCLC member may redistribute remains.
[3] http://www.oclc.org/news/releases/2012/201248.en.html
Allow me to try to put this confusion and uncertainty to rest
Re: [CODE4LIB] getting URIs, was: [CODE4LIB] barriers to open metadata?
Obviously openRefine will be used in many applications, but you've got
to get your data TO openrefine, and you've got to do some programming to
do that, and then to return the data to however you store it. OpenRefine
is a great tool, but not a complete solution, IMO.
kc
On 4/30/14, 10:47 AM, Simon Brown wrote:
What about OpenRefine?
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Thanks, Richard. I ask because it's one of the most common questions that
I get -- often about WorldCat, but in general about any source of URIs --
How do I connect my data (text forms) to their URIs? And these questions
usually come from library or archive projects with little or no programming
staff. So it seems like we need to be able to answer that question so that
people can get linked up. In fact, it seems to me that the most pressing
need right now is an easy way (or one that someone else can do for you at a
reasonable cost) to connect the text string identifiers that we have to
URIs. I envision something like what we went through when we moved from
AACR name forms to AACR2 name forms, and libraries were able to send their
MARC records to a service that returned the records with the new name form.
In this case, though, such a service would return the data with the
appropriate URIs added. (In the case of MARC, in the $0 subfield.)
It's great that the big guys like LC and OCLC are providing URIs for
resources. But at the moment I feel like it's grapes dangling just beyond
the reach of the folks we want to connect to. Any ideas on how to make this
easy are welcome. And I do think that there's great potential for an
enterprising start-up to provide an affordable service for libraries and
archives. Of course, an open source pass in your data in x or y format and
we'll return it with URIs embedded would be great, but I think it would be
reasonable to charge for such a service.
kc
On 4/30/14, 9:59 AM, Richard Wallis wrote:
To unpack the several questions lurking in Karen’s question.
As to being able to use the WorldCat Works data/identifiers there is no
difference between a or b - it is ODC-BY licensed data.
Getting a Work URI may be easier for a) as they should be able to identify
the OCLC Number and hence use the linked data from it’s URI
http://worldcat.org/oclc/{ocn} to pick up the link to it’s work.
Tools such as xISBN http://xisbn.worldcat.org/xisbnadmin/doc/api.htm
can
step you towards identifier lookups and are openly available for low
volume
usage.
Citation lookup is more a bib lookup feature, that you could get an OCLC
Number from. One of colleagues may be helpful on the particulars of this.
Apologies for being WorldCat specific, but Karen did ask.
~Richard.
On 30 April 2014 17:15, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
My question has to do with discoverability. Let's say that I have a
bibliographic database and I want to add the OCLC work identifiers to it.
Obviously I don't want to do it by hand. I might have ISBNs, but in some
cases I will have a regular author/title-type citation.
and let's say that I am asking this for two different institutions:
a) is an OCLC member institution
b) is not
Thanks,
kc
On 4/30/14, 8:47 AM, Dan Scott wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Roy Tennant roytenn...@gmail.com
wrote:
This has now instead become a reasonable recommendation
concerning ODC-BY licensing [3] but the confusion and uncertainty
about which records an OCLC member may redistribute remains.
[3] http://www.oclc.org/news/releases/2012/201248.en.html
Allow me to try to put this confusion and uncertainty to rest once
and
for
all:
ALL THE THINGS. ALL.
At least as far as we are concerned. I think it's well past time to put
the
past in the past.
That's great, Roy. That's a *lot* simpler than parsing the
recommendations, WCRR, community norms, and such at [A, B] :)
Meanwhile, we have just put nearly 200 million works records up as
linked
open data. [1], [2], [3]. If that doesn't rock the library open linked
data
world, then no one is paying attention.
Roy
[1] http://oclc.org/en-US/news/releases/2014/201414dublin.html
[2]
http://dataliberate.com/2014/04/worldcat-works-197-million-
nuggets-of-linked-data/
[3] http://hangingtogether.org/?p=3811
Yes, that is really awesome. But Laura was asking about barriers to
open metadata, so damn you for going off-topic with PR around a lack
of barriers to some metadata (which, for those who have not looked
yet, have a nice ODC-BY licensing statement at the bottom of a given
Works page) :)
A. http://oclc.org/worldcat/community/record-use.en.html
B. http://oclc.org/worldcat/community/record-use/data-
licensing/questions.en.html
--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: 1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet
--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: 1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet
--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: 1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] barriers to open metadata?
Roy, the question that I have is, as I say below, about DISCOVERABILITY
of URIs, not intellectual property issues. It's great that there are
lots of URIs for useful things out in the world, but they don't jump
into your data store on their own through some kind of magic. To me, the
big problem today is that of populating legacy data with useful
identifiers. I know that some folks have worked at making connections
between subject headings in their catalog and the URIs available through
id.loc.gov - and as I recall, it turns out to be fairly frustrating. It
seems to be that the solution to this is that providers of URIs and
users of URIs have to both make an effort to meet half-way, or at a
mutally convenient location. It simply is not enough to say: Hey, look!
I've got all of these URIs. Good luck! So let's talk about how we make
that connection.
kc
On 4/30/14, 1:17 PM, Roy Tennant wrote:
Also, this:
OCLC identifiers, and Linked Data URIs, are always in the public domain.
Independent of the data and/or information content (which may be subject to
individual licensing terms open or otherwise) that they identify, or link
to, OCLC identifiers (e.g. OCLC Numbers, VIAF IDs, or WorldCat Work URIs)
can be treated as if they are in the public domain and can be included in
any data exposure mechanism or activity as public domain data.
http://www.oclc.org/developer/develop/linked-data.en.html
Roy
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Richard Wallis
richard.wal...@dataliberate.com wrote:
To unpack the several questions lurking in Karen’s question.
As to being able to use the WorldCat Works data/identifiers there is no
difference between a or b - it is ODC-BY licensed data.
Getting a Work URI may be easier for a) as they should be able to identify
the OCLC Number and hence use the linked data from it’s URI
http://worldcat.org/oclc/{ocn} to pick up the link to it’s work.
Tools such as xISBN http://xisbn.worldcat.org/xisbnadmin/doc/api.htm can
step you towards identifier lookups and are openly available for low volume
usage.
Citation lookup is more a bib lookup feature, that you could get an OCLC
Number from. One of colleagues may be helpful on the particulars of this.
Apologies for being WorldCat specific, but Karen did ask.
~Richard.
On 30 April 2014 17:15, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
My question has to do with discoverability. Let's say that I have a
bibliographic database and I want to add the OCLC work identifiers to it.
Obviously I don't want to do it by hand. I might have ISBNs, but in some
cases I will have a regular author/title-type citation.
and let's say that I am asking this for two different institutions:
a) is an OCLC member institution
b) is not
Thanks,
kc
On 4/30/14, 8:47 AM, Dan Scott wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Roy Tennant roytenn...@gmail.com
wrote:
This has now instead become a reasonable recommendation
concerning ODC-BY licensing [3] but the confusion and uncertainty
about which records an OCLC member may redistribute remains.
[3] http://www.oclc.org/news/releases/2012/201248.en.html
Allow me to try to put this confusion and uncertainty to rest once and
for
all:
ALL THE THINGS. ALL.
At least as far as we are concerned. I think it's well past time to put
the
past in the past.
That's great, Roy. That's a *lot* simpler than parsing the
recommendations, WCRR, community norms, and such at [A, B] :)
Meanwhile, we have just put nearly 200 million works records up as
linked
open data. [1], [2], [3]. If that doesn't rock the library open linked
data
world, then no one is paying attention.
Roy
[1] http://oclc.org/en-US/news/releases/2014/201414dublin.html
[2]
http://dataliberate.com/2014/04/worldcat-works-197-million-
nuggets-of-linked-data/
[3] http://hangingtogether.org/?p=3811
Yes, that is really awesome. But Laura was asking about barriers to
open metadata, so damn you for going off-topic with PR around a lack
of barriers to some metadata (which, for those who have not looked
yet, have a nice ODC-BY licensing statement at the bottom of a given
Works page) :)
A. http://oclc.org/worldcat/community/record-use.en.html
B. http://oclc.org/worldcat/community/record-use/data-
licensing/questions.en.html
--
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kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: 1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet
--
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Founder, Data Liberate
http://dataliberate.com
Tel: +44 (0)7767 886 005
Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis
Skype: richard.wallis1
Twitter: @rjw
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m: 1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] barriers to open metadata?
On 4/30/14, 6:37 PM, Roy Tennant wrote:
In the end there may need to be reconciliation services just like we had
similar services in the card-catalog-to-digital years.
Roy
Roy, yes, that's what I'm assuming. I think we are indeed in the same
leaky boat we were in in the 1970's when all of a sudden we realized
that in the future we wanted our data to be digital but most of what
we had was definitely analog. In the early days, we thought it was an
impossible task to convert our cards to MARC, but it turned out to be
possible.
I believe that linking our heading strings (the ones that hopefully
resemble the prefLabel on someone's authority file) to identifiers is
not as hard as people assume, especially if we have systems that can
learn -- that is, that can build up cases of synonyms (e.g. Smith,
John with title Here's my book == Smith, John J. with title Here's
my book). This is what the AACR-AACR2 services did. OCLC surely does a
lot of this when merging manifestations, and undoubtedly did so when
determining what are works, and when bringing authority entries together
for VIAF. No, you don't get 100% perfection, but we don't get that now
with any of our services.
And for all of those who keep suggesting Open Refine -- it's like you
walk into bakery to buy a cake and they hand you flour, eggs, milk and
show you where the oven is. Yes, it can be done. But you want the cake
-- if you could do and wanted to *make* a cake you wouldn't be in the
bakery, you'd be home in your kitchen. So in case it isn't clear, I'm
talking cake, not cake making. How are we going to provide cake to the
library and archives masses? And, if you are feeling entrepreneurial,
wouldn't this be a good time to open a bakery?
kc
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Roy, the question that I have is, as I say below, about DISCOVERABILITY of
URIs, not intellectual property issues. It's great that there are lots of
URIs for useful things out in the world, but they don't jump into your data
store on their own through some kind of magic. To me, the big problem today
is that of populating legacy data with useful identifiers. I know that some
folks have worked at making connections between subject headings in their
catalog and the URIs available through id.loc.gov - and as I recall, it
turns out to be fairly frustrating. It seems to be that the solution to
this is that providers of URIs and users of URIs have to both make an
effort to meet half-way, or at a mutally convenient location. It simply is
not enough to say: Hey, look! I've got all of these URIs. Good luck! So
let's talk about how we make that connection.
kc
On 4/30/14, 1:17 PM, Roy Tennant wrote:
Also, this:
OCLC identifiers, and Linked Data URIs, are always in the public domain.
Independent of the data and/or information content (which may be subject
to
individual licensing terms open or otherwise) that they identify, or link
to, OCLC identifiers (e.g. OCLC Numbers, VIAF IDs, or WorldCat Work URIs)
can be treated as if they are in the public domain and can be included in
any data exposure mechanism or activity as public domain data.
http://www.oclc.org/developer/develop/linked-data.en.html
Roy
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Richard Wallis
richard.wal...@dataliberate.com wrote:
To unpack the several questions lurking in Karen’s question.
As to being able to use the WorldCat Works data/identifiers there is no
difference between a or b - it is ODC-BY licensed data.
Getting a Work URI may be easier for a) as they should be able to
identify
the OCLC Number and hence use the linked data from it’s URI
http://worldcat.org/oclc/{ocn} to pick up the link to it’s work.
Tools such as xISBN http://xisbn.worldcat.org/xisbnadmin/doc/api.htm
can
step you towards identifier lookups and are openly available for low
volume
usage.
Citation lookup is more a bib lookup feature, that you could get an OCLC
Number from. One of colleagues may be helpful on the particulars of this.
Apologies for being WorldCat specific, but Karen did ask.
~Richard.
On 30 April 2014 17:15, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
My question has to do with discoverability. Let's say that I have a
bibliographic database and I want to add the OCLC work identifiers to
it.
Obviously I don't want to do it by hand. I might have ISBNs, but in some
cases I will have a regular author/title-type citation.
and let's say that I am asking this for two different institutions:
a) is an OCLC member institution
b) is not
Thanks,
kc
On 4/30/14, 8:47 AM, Dan Scott wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Roy Tennant roytenn...@gmail.com
wrote:
This has now instead become a reasonable recommendation
concerning ODC-BY licensing [3] but the confusion and uncertainty
about which records an OCLC member may redistribute remains.
[3] http://www.oclc.org/news/releases/2012/201248.en.html
Allow me to try to put this confusion and uncertainty to rest
Re: [CODE4LIB] Enough PHP To Be Dangerous At ALA Annual
Tim, Good for you! I would find this more useful than about 99.2% of the offerings at ALA. If I were to attend the conference, I would definitely be there. In fact, Las Vegas is close enough that I will think about coming just for this. kc On 4/11/14, 5:00 PM, Tim Spalding wrote: For fun I'm throwing a day-long, almost-free introduction to PHP session alongside the pre-conference day at ALA Annual. It's called Enough PHP To Be Dangerous, and will be held Friday, June 27, 2014 a few blocks from the Convention Center. Blog post is here: http://blog.librarything.com/thingology/2014/04/come-learn-php-at-ala-2014/ It's for people who don't know much about programming. So, it's NOT FOR YOU. You'd be bored! But you might want to tell a colleague. And if you're interested in helping out, it would be great having another person or two helping attendees figure out why their script won't run. I'm doing it for fun and because I can. Conferences are ridiculously expensive to exhibit at, so why not do a little more with it? For simplicity's sake, I didn't hook up with LITA or anyone else; I just rented a room and contracted for coffee and sandwiches. If you're interested in going, or helping out, read the blog post and email me. Best, Tim -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] New Zealand Chapter
Really, Jay, you've got the t-shirt and the logo - what else could be needed? :-) My take: reach out to a small but vibrant group; make sure it is diverse (type of library, type of person), and have a first meeting about how to have a second meeting. The first meeting may need to be folks in a nearby locale; the second would reach out to institutions that can add some support (space, time, motion). kc On 4/9/14, 9:17 PM, Jay Gattuso wrote: Hi all, Long time listener, first time caller. We don't have a C4L chapter over here in New Zealand, and I wondered what we would need to do to align the small group of Lib / GLAM coders with the broader C4L group. One of my colleagues did make this: http://i.imgur.com/XgGP9vX.jpg We are also setting up a two day code/hack fest, focusing on our Digital Preservation concerns, in June. I'd also really like to run the hackfest under a C4L banner. Any thoughts? J Jay Gattuso | Digital Preservation Analyst | Preservation, Research and Consultancy National Library of New Zealand | Te Puna Mātauranga o Aotearoa PO Box 1467 Wellington 6140 New Zealand | +64 (0)4 474 3064 jay.gatt...@dia.govt.nzmailto:jay.gatt...@natlib.govt.nz -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib italy
I happen to be in Italy at the moment, having just attended a conference on digital libraries here. [1] My general impression is that actual coding in libraries is rare, but I could ask around among librarians I know here and see what they say. There are some libraries that have had to create their own systems, and this might be a good outlet for those folks. It could also bring out projects that aren't well known. kc [1] http://www.aib.it/attivita/congressi/c2014/fsr2014/ On 3/10/14, 7:54 PM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: I wonder whether there are enough people and enough interest to organize a Code4Lib Italy event. Hmmm... —Eric Lease Morgan -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib italy
This is great. As soon as there is a group convened, we can try to find some way to coordinate for a meeting between US and Italy. Then, of course, there is the rest of the globe to cover... ;-) kc On 3/11/14, 9:22 AM, Nicola Carboni wrote: Hi, I can surely say that the interest on the topic is very high, and there is a community (maybe not so big as in U.S.) that would definitively participate. I would definitively going on with this idea, also as a starting point to create a group of librarian/developer in Italy I will try to forward this to some people that are interested on the topic. Nicola -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: RFC 7154 - IETF Guidelines for Conduct
Wow. I really like the IETF policy. It's not so much a code of conduct, per se, but it's a great statement of who we are. I think a discussion along those lines for c4l would be very interesting. Where IETF has a statement like: 3. IETF participants devise solutions for the global Internet that meet the needs of diverse technical and operational environments. ...c4l could say something about promoting solutions for all types and all sizes of libraries. A statement about sharing would also be nice. And maybe something about welcoming folks with various levels of technical expertise. kc On 3/3/14, 10:36 PM, Peter Murray wrote: Code4LibCon is coming up in a few weeks. I’m sure there will be reminders about the community-generated code of conduct (https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy/blob/master/code_of_conduct.md). I think it also useful to take a look at what just passed the IETF that governs their meetings. In particular, I like how it gets past the “Thou shalt not” and gets to the “Thou shall”. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7154 Peter -- Peter Murray Assistant Director, Technology Services Development LYRASIS peter.mur...@lyrasis.org +1 678-235-2955 800.999.8558 x2955 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Welcome to Roy4Lib
Remember, folks, this is the Roy whose office number at the CDL was 404. And it was true. kc On 2/21/14, 3:13 PM, Roy Tennant wrote: roy4lib.org is ALWAYS down. I mean, it just makes too much sense for it to be in any other state. Roy On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Rosalyn Metz rosalynm...@gmail.com wrote: it appears that roy4lib.org is also down On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Frumkin, Jeremy frumk...@u.library.arizona.edu wrote: Welcome to the Roy4Lib discussion list. This list is intended to facilitate discussion on Roy Tennant's new world library order, the role of bacon (including kosher and vegetarian based varieties) in this context, and the long, long, long, long, long drawn out death of MARC. If you believe you have subscribed to this list in error, please email the admin at r...@roy4lib.org. Jeremy Frumkin Assistant Dean / Chief Technology Strategist University of Arizona Libraries +1 520.626.7296 frumk...@u.library.arizona.edu Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. - Albert Einstein -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [rules] Publication of the RDA Element Vocabularies
On 1/24/14, 6:56 AM, Jon Phipps wrote: Thanks for reminding me that this is an academic panel discussion in front of an audience, rather than a conversation. Not entirely clear what you meant by that, but I do think that we have a very practical issue in front of us, and it's one of the things that, IMO, is holding back the adoption of linked data: the limitations of the tools in this area. As I said above, there is no reason why we should be working with raw URIs in our work, but few tools present the human-readable labels to the developer. So we are unfortunately forced to work directly with rdaa:P50209 even though we would prefer to be working with addressee of (the rdfs:label). Although we shouldn't be designing vocabularies to make up for the limitations of the tools, it's basically inevitable if we want to get things done. (There are, BTW, enterprise-level tools, but they are beyond the $$ of most folks on this list.) I also think that rdfs:label presents us with the same problem that we found with SKOS that led to SKOS-XL and content as text -- there are times when you need to say something more about the label; more than what language it is in. It seems quite logical to me that you would have one label for experts, another for the general public; one label for those doing input, another for your basic UI; one label for children, another for adults; etc. You could do that in your application software, but then you aren't sharing it. That you found the need for a local reg:name is evidence of this, but it, too, will prove to be inadequate for some needs. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [rules] Publication of the RDA Element Vocabularies
On 1/23/14, 4:01 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote: So in my opinion, as is everything in the mail of course, this is even worse. Now instead of 1600 properties, you have 1600 * (number of languages +1) properties. And you're going to see them appearing in uses of the ontology. Either stick with your opaque identifiers or pick a language for the readable ones, and best practice would be English, but doing both is a disaster in the making. Actually, it's more than that. Because, as you see below, for each property there are two URIs, a reg:name, and an rdfs:label. The lexical URI is based on the reg:name not the rdfs:label. So that makes one opaque identifier, one lexical identifer, and two display forms. The reg:name is camel case and condensed, as compared to the label, which is space-delimited words. Both have language designations. The rdfs:label is written as a verb phrase, with either has or is -- a form that I generally find annoying in practice -- while the reg:name is noun-ish. I'm sympathetic to the has form in some situations, such as when reading a triple as a statement, but the verb-enhanced form would seem odd on an input form, for example. Having both could be useful, but since RDF doesn't recognize label types it only works in a closed world. !--Property: has address of the corporate body-- rdf:Description rdf:about=http://rdaregistry.info/Elements/a/P50036; rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:resource=http://rdaregistry.info/Elements/a/; / reg:status rdf:resource=http://metadataregistry.org/uri/RegStatus/1001; / reg:name xml:lang=enaddressOfTheCorporateBody/reg:name rdfs:label xml:lang=enhas address of the corporate body/rdfs:label skos:definition xml:lang=enRelates a corporate body to the address of a corporate body's headquarters or offices, or an e-mail or internet address for the body./skos:definition rdf:type rdf:resource=http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property; / rdfs:domain rdf:resource=http://rdaregistry.info/Elements/c/C10005; / rdfs:subPropertyOf rdf:resource=http://rdaregistry.info/Elements/u/P60512; / owl:sameAs rdf:resource=http://rdaregistry.info/Elements/a/addressOfTheCorporateBody; / /rdf:Description kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [rules] Publication of the RDA Element Vocabularies
are distributed in sets (the number of elements in each set is given in brackets): Agent properties [http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/81.html]http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/81.html(226) Expression properties [http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/78.html]http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/78.html(236) Item properties [http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/80.html]http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/80.html(54) Manifestation properties [http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/79.html]http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/79.html(213) Work properties [http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/77.html]http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/77.html(232) Unconstrained properties [http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/82.html]http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/82.html(698) Classes [http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/83.html]http://metadataregistry.org/schema/show/id/83.html(8) Follow the links to see details of each element set. Questions or comments on the content of the element sets may be addressed to the Chair of the JSC, Gordon Dunsire [jsch...@rdatoolkit.org]. Questions and comments on the encoding of the vocabularies or on the Open Metadata Registry may be addressed to Diane Hillmann [metadata.ma...@gmail.com]. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [rules] Publication of the RDA Element Vocabularies
On 1/22/14, 3:17 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote: The we might change what this means argument is also problematic -- if you change what it means, then you should change the URI! Otherwise people will continue to use them incorrectly, plus the legacy data generated with the previous definition will suddenly change what it's saying. Rob, absolutely right. If the semantics change, then you need a new property. But labels can change (or more can be added). However, the library world still equates labels with data -- that is, that our data is one-to-one with what we display. That's a huge problem, and it's very hard getting people to think differently about that. I've been looking at the output of the RDA vocabularies over the last couple of days and it IS quite difficult to do so with properties named something like P3058. There is a strong case to be made for mnemonics, although I also take Jon's point that when a property has a name like dc:title it is easy for folks to assume they really know what it means. I would still prefer something memorable at this stage. Finally, 1600 properties... good luck with that. Yes. And remember, RDA was designed to be a *simpler* cataloging code. Can you imagine if it weren't?! kc Rob On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Hamilton, Gill g.hamil...@nls.uk wrote: Je ne comprends pas l'anglais. Je ne comprends pas l'URI otherDesignationAssociatedWithTheCorporateBody 私は日本人です。私は理解していない、そのURI Opaque URIs with human readable labels helps in an international context. Just my two yens worth :) G - Gill Hamilton Digital Access Manager National Library of Scotland George IV Bridge Edinburgh EH1 1EW, Scotland e: g.hamil...@nls.uk t: +44 (0)131 623 3770 Skype: gill.hamilton.nls From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Dan Scott [deni...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 January 2014 21:10 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Fwd: [rules] Publication of the RDA Element Vocabularies Hi Karen: On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: I can't address the first points, but I can speak a bit to the question of meaningful URIs. In the original creation of the RDA elements, meaningful URIs were used based on the actual RDA terminology. This resulted in URIs like: http://rdvocab.info/Elements/alternativeChronologicalDesignationOfLastIssueOrPartOfSequence and... http://rdvocab.info/Elements/alternativeChronologicalDesignationOfLastIssueOrPartOfSequenceManifestation Not only that, the terminology for some elements changed over time, which in some cases meant deprecating a property that was then overly confusing based on its name. Now, I agree that one possibility would have been for the JSC to develop meaningful but reasonably short property names. Another possibility is that we cease looking at URIs and begin to work with labels, since URIs are for machines and labels are for humans. Unfortunately, much RDF software still expects you to work with the underlying URI rather than the human-facing label. We need to get through that stage as quickly as possible, because it's causing us to put effort into URI naming that would be best used for other analysis activities. Thanks for responding on this front. I understand that, while the vocabulary was in heavy active development it might have been painful to adjust as elements changed, but given that this marks the actual publication of the vocabulary, that churn should have settled down, and then this part of the JSC's contribution to semantic web could have semantics applied at both the micro and macro level. I guess I see URIs as roughly parallel to API names; as long as humans are assembling programs, we're likely to benefit from having meaningful (no air quotes required) names... even if sometimes the meaning drifts over time and the code APIs need to be refactored. Dealing with sequentially numbered alphanumeric identifiers reminds me rather painfully of MARC. For what it's worth (and it might not be worth much) curl http://rdaregistry.info/Elements/a/P50101 | grep reg:name | sort | uniq -c shows that the reg:name property is unique across all of the agent properties, at least. Remnants of the earlier naming effort? If that pattern holds, those could have been simply used for the identifiers in place of P#. The most unwieldy of those appears to be otherDesignationAssociatedWithTheCorporateBody (which _is_ unwieldy, certainly, but still more meaningful than http://rdaregistry.info/Elements/a/P50033). Perhaps it's not too late? Follow us on Twitter and Facebook National Library of Scotland, Scottish Charity, No: SCO11086 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed
Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf ontologies for archival descriptions
There is an ontology for archival description developed by the Europeana project. The web site for the ontology is here: http://pro.europeana.eu/edm-documentation and there are some good articles about it here and here: http://ontogenealogy.com/europeana-data-model-edm/ http://semanticweb.com/tag/europeana-data-model Note that Europeana provides an XSD version of the ontology because that is what most of the contributors could handle. (The list of contributors is here: http://www.europeana.eu/portal/europeana-providers.html). Europeana shows on the linked data cloud as a major content provider. When looking for vocabularies, you might want to have a look at the Linked Open Vocabularies site: http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/ This lists all of the vocabularies in use in the LOD cloud. You can search for properties, and a search on time or place gives you many options. Note that these are properties, and there is still the question of values or objects. For example, if you are going to be including geographic places in your ontology, then you probably want to use URIs from the geoNames database. (http://www.geonames.org). kc On 1/18/14, 6:39 PM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: If you were to select a set of RDF ontologies intended to be used in the linked data of archival descriptions, then what ontologies would you select? For simplicity's sake, RDF ontologies are akin to the fields in MARC records or the entities in EAD/XML files. Articulated more accurately, they are the things denoting relationships between subjects and objects in RDF triples. In this light, they are akin to the verbs in all but the most simplistic of sentences. But if they are akin to verbs, then they bring with them all of the nuance and subtlety of human written language. And human written language, in order to be an effective human communications device, comes with two equally important prerequisites: 1) a writer who can speak to an intended audience, and 2) a reader with a certain level of intelligence. A writer who does not use the language of the intended audience speaks to few, and a reader who does not bring something to the party goes away with little understanding. Because the effectiveness of every writer is not perfect, and because not every reader comes to the party with a certain level of intelligence, wr! it! ten language is imperfect. Similarly, the ontologies of linked data are imperfect. There are no perfect ontologies nor absolutely correct uses of them. There are only best practices and common usages. This being the case, ontologies still need to be selected in order for linked data to be manifested. What ontologies would you suggest be used when creating linked data for archival descriptions? Here are a few possibilities, listed in no priority order: * Dublin Core Terms - This ontology is rather bibliographic in nature, and provides a decent framework for describing much of the content of archival descriptions. * FOAF - Archival collections often originate from individual people. Such is the scope of FOAF, and FOAF is used by a number of other sets of linked data. * MODS - Because many archival descriptions are rooted in MARC records, and MODS is easily mapped from MARC. * Schema.org - This is an up-and-coming ontology heralded by the 600-pound gorillas in the room -- Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc. While the ontology has not been put into practice for very long, it is growing and wide ranging. * RDF - This ontology is necessary because linked data is manifested as... RDF * RDFS - This ontology may be necessary because the archival community may be creating some of its own ontologies. * OWL and SKOS - Both of these ontologies seem to be used to denote relationships between terms in other ontologies. In this way they are used to create classification schemes and thesauri. For example, they allow the implementor to denote creator in one ontology is the same as author in another ontology. Or they allow country in one ontology to be denoted as a parent geographic term for city in another ontology. While some or all of these ontologies may be useful for linked data of archival descriptions, what might some other ontologies include? (Remember, it is often better to select existing ontologies rather than inventing, unless there is something distinctly unique about a particular domain.) For example, how about an ontology denoting times? Or how about one for places? FOAF is good for people, but what about organizations or institutions? Inquiring minds would like to know. — Eric Morgan -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS metadata format support
Roy, I'm not sure what tips you over into sarcasm mode (unless it's anything I say), but 1) the answer is a few posts down, albeit not in any detail 2) as a member-based organization that exists to serve its members, I would think that OCLC would want to encourage the gathering of information about members needs, rather than responding to them negatively. The transition to a new data model, and in particular the use of identifiers for things, is (IMO) going to open up a lot of opportunities for services. This will be like the transition to MARC from cards (retrospective conversion) and the transition from AACR headings to AACR2 headings, on steroids. It's not too early to start, and one of the early steps is that of matching our string-based data with URIs for the same thing. I'd be interested in engaging in some brainstorming about how to make this happen as efficiently and cost effective as possible. (Maybe this would be a good BOF at c4l14?) kc On 1/17/14, 2:10 PM, Roy Tennant wrote: I agree that most Schema.org markup would be generated on the fly from a database, so I'm a bit unclear on what kind of tool we (OCLC) or someone else is being asked to develop. Perhaps someone could spell it out for this dense person? Thanks, Roy On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Dave, my impression is that most schema.org code is being generated programmatically out of database-driven web sites. The list of tools (not many) is here: http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.html As OCLC is very involved in schema.org, it would make sense to encourage them to develop something. Looking at what they do today in WorldCat, the big advantage that they seem to have is that they can locate URIs for names (VIAF) and subjects (LCSH). kc On 1/17/14, 10:49 AM, Bigwood, David wrote: Is there an easy-to-use tool for schema.org microdata? I was fond of the OCLC NJ COinS tool, but it has gone. Anything of that ilk? Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:34 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS metadata format support Chad, In that case, I wonder if you might get more mileage out of schema.orgmicrodata instead of COinS. There are undoubtedly more clients out there that can make sense of HTML5 microdata than COinS, which is really showing its age and is a niche technology. -Mike On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Chad Mills cmmi...@rci.rutgers.edu wrote: Jodi, No. I am working with our repository resources which is an eclectic mixture of resource types. I just want to simply embed our metadata in our search results and record displays for other tools to use. It seems cheap and reasonable to do I just didn't want to limit this feature to only certain resource types. Best, Chad - Original Message - From: Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.com To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:54:43 PM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS metadata format support Hi Chad, Are these subscription images/video/audio that libraries have? The original purpose of COinS, as I understand it, was to get people to subscription copies. Depending on what you're doing (i.e. the purpose/intended use) there might be a better standard these days. In case it helps there's more info here: http://ocoins.info/ (though it looks like the generator isn't up any longer, maybe due to OCLC New Jersey hosting?) Hopefully you'll get some more helpful advice from others! -Jodi On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Chad Mills cmmi...@rci.rutgers.edu wrote: I was able to easily find and create COinS for books and journals. I started thinking about images, video, audio, etc. I see references to 'info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:unknown' as a rft_val_fmt value some places. I would assume if I went down that road the rft.genre would have a value of 'unknown' as well. Is there some other alternative I am missing when handling other formats? Thanks! -- Chad Mills Digital Library Architect Ph: 848.932.5924 Fax: 848.932.1386 Cell: 732.309.8538 Rutgers University Libraries Scholarly Communication Center Room 409D, Alexander Library 169 College Avenue, New Brunswick, NJ 08901 http://rucore.libraries.rutgers.edu/ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS metadata format support
The missing formats are missing because they were never defined in the OpenURL standard. There is a registry of formats [1] that was designed to be updatable, although few updates have been done. I worked on the document type standards that are there today, and would happily help develop additional types if we can get some assurance that they could be added to the standard. I honestly do not know what mechanism exists for adding new types, but if anyone is interested we could ping the appropriate folks at OCLC and see. kc [1] http://alcme.oclc.org/openurl/servlet/OAIHandler?verb=ListRecordsmetadataPrefix=oai_dcset=Core:Metadata+Formats On 1/17/14, 8:36 AM, Chad Mills wrote: I was able to easily find and create COinS for books and journals. I started thinking about images, video, audio, etc. I see references to 'info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:unknown' as a rft_val_fmt value some places. I would assume if I went down that road the rft.genre would have a value of 'unknown' as well. Is there some other alternative I am missing when handling other formats? Thanks! -- Chad Mills Digital Library Architect Ph: 848.932.5924 Fax: 848.932.1386 Cell: 732.309.8538 Rutgers University Libraries Scholarly Communication Center Room 409D, Alexander Library 169 College Avenue, New Brunswick, NJ 08901 http://rucore.libraries.rutgers.edu/ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS metadata format support
Dave, my impression is that most schema.org code is being generated programmatically out of database-driven web sites. The list of tools (not many) is here: http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.html As OCLC is very involved in schema.org, it would make sense to encourage them to develop something. Looking at what they do today in WorldCat, the big advantage that they seem to have is that they can locate URIs for names (VIAF) and subjects (LCSH). kc On 1/17/14, 10:49 AM, Bigwood, David wrote: Is there an easy-to-use tool for schema.org microdata? I was fond of the OCLC NJ COinS tool, but it has gone. Anything of that ilk? Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:34 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS metadata format support Chad, In that case, I wonder if you might get more mileage out of schema.orgmicrodata instead of COinS. There are undoubtedly more clients out there that can make sense of HTML5 microdata than COinS, which is really showing its age and is a niche technology. -Mike On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Chad Mills cmmi...@rci.rutgers.eduwrote: Jodi, No. I am working with our repository resources which is an eclectic mixture of resource types. I just want to simply embed our metadata in our search results and record displays for other tools to use. It seems cheap and reasonable to do I just didn't want to limit this feature to only certain resource types. Best, Chad - Original Message - From: Jodi Schneider jschnei...@pobox.com To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:54:43 PM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] COinS metadata format support Hi Chad, Are these subscription images/video/audio that libraries have? The original purpose of COinS, as I understand it, was to get people to subscription copies. Depending on what you're doing (i.e. the purpose/intended use) there might be a better standard these days. In case it helps there's more info here: http://ocoins.info/ (though it looks like the generator isn't up any longer, maybe due to OCLC New Jersey hosting?) Hopefully you'll get some more helpful advice from others! -Jodi On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Chad Mills cmmi...@rci.rutgers.edu wrote: I was able to easily find and create COinS for books and journals. I started thinking about images, video, audio, etc. I see references to 'info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:unknown' as a rft_val_fmt value some places. I would assume if I went down that road the rft.genre would have a value of 'unknown' as well. Is there some other alternative I am missing when handling other formats? Thanks! -- Chad Mills Digital Library Architect Ph: 848.932.5924 Fax: 848.932.1386 Cell: 732.309.8538 Rutgers University Libraries Scholarly Communication Center Room 409D, Alexander Library 169 College Avenue, New Brunswick, NJ 08901 http://rucore.libraries.rutgers.edu/ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Mapping LCSH to DDC
I've often thought that this would be an interesting exercise if someone would undertake it. Just a reminder: in theory (IN THEORY) the first subject heading in an LC record is the one most semantically close to the assigned subject classification. So perhaps a first pass with the FIRST 6xx might give a more refined matching. And then it would be interesting to compare that with the results using all 600-651's. kc On 12/10/13, 1:18 PM, Edward Summers wrote: Not a naive idea at all. If you have the stomach for it, you could extract the Subject Heading / Dewey combinations out of say the LC Catalog MARC data [1] to use as training data for some kind of clustering [2] algorithm. You might even be able to do something simple like keep a count of the Dewey ranges associated with each subject heading. I’m kind of curious myself, so I could work on getting the subject heading / dewey combinations if you want? //Ed [1] https://archive.org/details/marc_records_scriblio_net [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_analysis On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Irina Arndt ar...@mpdl.mpg.de wrote: Hi CODE4LIB, we would like to add DDC classes to a bunch of MARC records, which contains only LoC Subject Headings. Does anybody know, if a mapping between LCSH and DDC is anywhere existent (and available)? I understood, that WebDewey http://www.oclc.org/dewey/versions/webdewey.en.html might provide such a service, but · we are no OCLC customers or subscribers to WebDewey · even if we were, I'm not sure, if the service matches our needs I'm thinking of a tool, where I can upload my list of subject headings and get back a list, where the matching Dewey classes have been added (but a 'simple' csv file with LCSH terms and DDC classes would be helpful as well- I am fully aware, that neither LCSH nor DDC are simple at all...) . Naïve idea...? Thanks for any clues, Irina --- Irina Arndt Max Planck Digital Library (MPDL) Library System Coordinator Amalienstr. 33 D-80799 Muenchen, Germany Tel. +49 89 38602-254 Fax +49 89 38602-290 Email: ar...@mpdl.mpg.demailto:ar...@mpdl.mpg.de http://www.mpdl.mpg.de -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Mapping LCSH to DDC
Yeah, Ed! I'm totally looking forward to results. Unlikely as it is, if there's anything I can do and I understand about limiting to 650, but ... well, let's see how it goes. kc On 12/10/13, 1:37 PM, Edward Summers wrote: I was going to try to reduce the space a bit by focusing on 650 fields. Each record with a Dewey number will be a tab separated line, that will include each 650 field in order. So something like: 305.42/0973 tab Women's rights -- United States -- History -- Sources. tab Women -- United States -- History — Sources tab Manuscripts, American -- Facsimiles. I thought it might be a place to start at least … it’s running on an ec2 instance right now :-) //Ed On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: I've often thought that this would be an interesting exercise if someone would undertake it. Just a reminder: in theory (IN THEORY) the first subject heading in an LC record is the one most semantically close to the assigned subject classification. So perhaps a first pass with the FIRST 6xx might give a more refined matching. And then it would be interesting to compare that with the results using all 600-651's. kc On 12/10/13, 1:18 PM, Edward Summers wrote: Not a naive idea at all. If you have the stomach for it, you could extract the Subject Heading / Dewey combinations out of say the LC Catalog MARC data [1] to use as training data for some kind of clustering [2] algorithm. You might even be able to do something simple like keep a count of the Dewey ranges associated with each subject heading. I’m kind of curious myself, so I could work on getting the subject heading / dewey combinations if you want? //Ed [1] https://archive.org/details/marc_records_scriblio_net [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_analysis On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Irina Arndt ar...@mpdl.mpg.de wrote: Hi CODE4LIB, we would like to add DDC classes to a bunch of MARC records, which contains only LoC Subject Headings. Does anybody know, if a mapping between LCSH and DDC is anywhere existent (and available)? I understood, that WebDewey http://www.oclc.org/dewey/versions/webdewey.en.html might provide such a service, but · we are no OCLC customers or subscribers to WebDewey · even if we were, I'm not sure, if the service matches our needs I'm thinking of a tool, where I can upload my list of subject headings and get back a list, where the matching Dewey classes have been added (but a 'simple' csv file with LCSH terms and DDC classes would be helpful as well- I am fully aware, that neither LCSH nor DDC are simple at all...) . Naïve idea...? Thanks for any clues, Irina --- Irina Arndt Max Planck Digital Library (MPDL) Library System Coordinator Amalienstr. 33 D-80799 Muenchen, Germany Tel. +49 89 38602-254 Fax +49 89 38602-290 Email: ar...@mpdl.mpg.demailto:ar...@mpdl.mpg.de http://www.mpdl.mpg.de -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf
On 12/5/13 8:11 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: Where will I get the URIs from? I will get them by combining some sort of unique code (like an OCLC symbol) or namespace with the value of the MARC records' 001 fields. You actually need 3 URIs per triple: subject URI (which is what I believe you are creating, above) predicate URI (the data element URI, like http://purl.org/dc/terms/title) http://purl.org/dc/terms/title object URI (the URI for the data you are providing, like http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n94036700) The first two MUST be URIs. The third SHOULD be a URI but can also be a string. However, strings, in the linked data space, do NOT LINK. If you only have strings in the object/value space then you can run searches against your data, but your data cannot link to other data. Creating linked data that doesn't link isn't terribly useful. (In case this doesn't make sense to anyone reading, I have a slide deck that illustrates this. I've uploaded it to: http://kcoyle.net/presentations/3webIntro.pptx ) A key first step for all of us is to start getting identifiers into our data, even before we start thinking about linked data. MARC records in systems that recognize authority control should be able to store or provide on output the URI of every authority-controlled entity. This should not be terribly difficult (ok, famous last words, I know). But if your vendor system can flip headings then it should also be able to provide a URI (especially since LC has conveniently made their URIs derivable from the LC record numbers). With identifiers for things, THEN you are really linking. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Interested in enhancing call-number browse in Millennium catalog
cynthia, I can't help you but I can encourage you -- honestly, the call numbers alone (especially in LCC where the notation is not a strict hierarchy) are close to useless without the meanings. One might even make the meanings more visible than the call numbers themselves (bolder, placed first)... Go for it! Next: a smart phone app that reads books on a shelf and reports what the call numbers mean. I'd call it Where the F am I, anyway? kc On 12/3/13 6:35 PM, Harper, Cynthia wrote: I'm thinking of trying to enhance the call-number browse pages on a Millennium catalog with meanings of the classification ranges taken from the LoC Classification database. http://id.loc.gov/authorities/classification.html a typical call-number browse page might look like this: http://librarycatalog.vts.edu/search~S1?/cBX100.7.B632+1999/cbx++100.7+b632+1999/-3,-1,,E/browsehttp://librarycatalog.vts.edu/search%7ES1?/cBX100.7.B632+1999/cbx++100.7+b632+1999/-3,-1,,E/browse I'd like to intersperse the call-number listing with call-number range meanings like BX100 - Christian denominations - Eastern churches Has anyone tried this? Can you point me to the API documentation for the LC Classification? Cindy Harper -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] book cover api
Open Library book covers come in S, M and L - https://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/covers Of course, if what you want isn't exactly one of those... kc On 12/4/13 9:34 AM, Kaile Zhu wrote: A while ago, we had a discussion about book cover APIs. I tried some of those mentioned and found they are working to some degree, but none of them would offer the size I want. The flexibility of the size is just not there. The size I am looking for is like this: http://img1.imagesbn.com/p/9780316227940_p0_v2_s114x166.JPG Anybody has found a way of implementing book cover api to your specifications successfully and is willing to share that with me? Off-line if you want. Much appreciation. Thanks. Kelly Zhu 405-974-5957 kz...@uco.edu **Bronze+Blue=Green** The University of Central Oklahoma is Bronze, Blue, and Green! Please print this e-mail only if absolutely necessary! **CONFIDENTIALITY** This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information. Any unauthorized disclosure or use of this information is prohibited. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib 2014 Diversity Scholarships: Call for Applications
http://grcc.edu/library | http://grcc.edu/library/socialmedia On 11/25/2013 at 10:43 AM, Dan Eveland devel...@gmail.com wrote: So, by diversity you mean every single type of person except white male that believes they are actually male. Is that accurate? So... diverse except for one category specifically excluded through these rules. Is there any other category other then this one, specific, group of people who are not qualified to receive one of these scholarships? Really, I'd like to know. Perhaps it would have been more efficient to list who cannot get the help they need. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Jason Ronallo jrona...@gmail.com wrote: For the Code4Lib 2014 Conference, 9 scholarships have been sponsored to promote diversity. CLIR/DLF has sponsored 5 scholarships, EBSCO has sponsored 2 scholarships, ProQuest has sponsored 1 full scholarship, and Sumana Harihareswara has sponsored half a scholarship which was matched by ProQuest. All sponsors have left it up to the discretion of the Code4Lib 2014 Scholarship Committee for how to award these diversity scholarships. The Code4Lib Scholarship Committee will award 9 diversity scholarships based on merit and need. Each scholarship will provide up to $1,000 to cover travel costs and conference fees for a qualified attendee to attend the 2014 Code4Lib Conference, which will be held in Raleigh, North Carolina, from March 24 - 27, 2014. CONFERENCE INFO For more information on the Code4Lib Conference, please see the conference website: http://code4lib.org/conference/2014 You can see write-ups of previous Code4Lib Conferences: http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/6848 http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/2717 http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/998 http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/72 CODE4LIB 2014 DIVERSITY SCHOLARSHIPS ELIGIBILITY, CRITERIA, AND REQUIREMENTS To qualify for a scholarship, an applicant must be interested in actively contributing to the mission and goals of the Code4Lib Conference. - Four scholarships will be awarded to any woman or transgendered person. - Four scholarships will be awarded to any person of Hispanic or Latino, Black or African-American, Asian, Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander, or American Indian or Alaskan Native descent. - One scholarship will be awarded to the best remaining candidate who meets any of the previously mentioned eligibility requirements. Eligible applicants may apply based on multiple criteria, but no applicant will receive more than one scholarship. Past winners of any Code4Lib scholarship are not eligible for a scholarship. The scholarship recipients will be selected based upon their merit and financial needs. Scholarship recipients are required to write and submit a brief trip report to the Code4Lib 2014 Scholarships Committee by April 1, 2014 to be posted to the Code4Lib wiki. The report should address: (a) what kind of experience they had at the conference, (b) what they have learned, (c) what suggestions they have for future attendees and conference organizers. All reimbursement forms and receipts must be received by May 26, 2014. HOW TO APPLY To apply, please send an email to Jason Ronallo (jrona...@gmail.com) with the subject heading “Code4Lib 2014 Diversity Scholarship Application” containing the following (combined into a single attached PDF, if possible): 1. A brief letter of interest, which: - Identifies your eligibility for a diversity scholarship - Describes your interest in the conference and how you intend to participate - Discusses your merit and needs for the scholarship 2. A résumé or CV 3. Contact information for two professional or academic references The application deadline is Dec. 13, 2013, 5pm EST. The scholarship committee will notify successful candidates the week of Jan. 6, 2013. SPONSORS We would like to thank our sponsors for supporting the Code4Lib 2014 Diversity Scholarships. Council on Library and Information Resources http://www.clir.org/ Digital Library Federation http://www.diglib.org/ EBSCO http://www.ebsco.com/ ProQuest http://www.proquest.com Sumana Harihareswara http://www.harihareswara.net/ -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib 2014 Diversity Scholarships: Call for Applications
On 11/25/13 12:17 PM, Matthew Sherman wrote: I am going to reiterate my push to turn this conversation to a discussion for funding options for everyone who wants to attend Code4Lib 2014. I think that will be a much better use of our time. Agreed. Someone mentioned state scholarships that many of us didn't know about. I think a page on the c4l wiki for scholarship opportunities could be a win. People could add any that they hear about. And I wince a bit at mentioning this, but with actual non-profit status, c4l might be more able to solicit donations. Or perhaps the group could find a non-profit partner that could help out in that regard? kc On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Erik Hetzner erik.hetz...@ucop.edu wrote: Hi all, I can’t believe we are having this conversation again. I have nothing to add except to say that rather than feed the troll, you might do what I did, and turn your frustration at this thread arising *once again* into a donation to the Ada Initiative or similar organization. Sadly, it seems that one cannot contribute to the diversity scholarships, as I would be happy to do so. If anybody knows how, please let me know. best, Erik -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe
Eric, I think this skips a step - which is the design step in which you create a domain model that uses linked data as its basis. RDF is not a serialization; it actually may require you to re-think the basic structure of your metadata. The reason for that is that it provides capabilities that record-based data models do not. Rather than starting with current metadata, you need to take a step back and ask: what does my information world look like as linked data? I repeat: RDF is NOT A SERIALIZATION. kc On 11/19/13 5:04 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: I believe participating in the Semantic Web and providing content via the principles of linked data is not rocket surgery, especially for cultural heritage institutions -- libraries, archives, and museums. Here is a simple recipe for their participation: 1. use existing metadata standards (MARC, EAD, etc.) to describe collections 2. use any number of existing tools to convert the metadata to HTML, and save the HTML on a Web server 3. use any number of existing tools to convert the metadata to RDF/XML (or some other serialization of RDF), and save the RDF/XML on a Web server 4. rest, congratulate yourself, and share your experience with others in your domain 5. after the first time though, go back to Step #1, but this time work with other people inside your domain making sure you use as many of the same URIs as possible 6. after the second time through, go back to Step #1, but this time supplement access to your linked data with a triple store, thus supporting search 7. after the third time through, go back to Step #1, but this time use any number of existing tools to expose the content in your other information systems (relational databases, OAI-PMH data repositories, etc.) 8. for dessert, cogitate ways to exploit the linked data in your domain to discover new and additional relationships between URIs, and thus make the Semantic Web more of a reality What do you think? I am in the process of writing a guidebook on the topic of linked data and archives. In the guidebook I will elaborate on this recipe and provide instructions for its implementation. [1] [1] guidebook - http://sites.tufts.edu/liam/ -- Eric Lease Morgan University of Notre Dame -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data recipe
Eric, if you want to leap into the linked data world in the fastest, easiest way possible, then I suggest looking at microdata markup, e.g. schema.org.[1] Schema.org does not require you to transform your data at all: it only requires mark-up of your online displays. This makes sense because as long as your data is in local databases, it's not visible to the linked data universe anyway; so why not take the easy way out and just add linked data to your public online displays? This doesn't require a transformation of your entire record (some of which may not be suitable as linked data in any case), only those things that are likely to link usefully. This latter generally means things for which you have an identifier. And you make no changes to your database, only to display. OCLC is already producing this markup in WorldCat records [2]-- not perfectly, of course, lots of warts, but it is a first step. However, it is a first step that makes more sense to me than *transforming* or *cross-walking* current metadata. It also, I believe, will help us understand what bits of our current metadata will make the transition to linked data, and what bits should remain as accessible documents that users can reach through linked data. kc [1] http://schema.org, and look at the work going on to add bibliographic properties at http://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/wiki/Main_Page [2] look at the linked data section of any WorldCat page for a single item, such ashttp://www.worldcat.org/title/selection-of-early-statistical-papers-of-j-neyman/oclc/527725referer=brief_results On 11/19/13 7:54 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Eric, I think this skips a step - which is the design step in which you create a domain model that uses linked data as its basis. RDF is not a serialization; it actually may require you to re-think the basic structure of your metadata. The reason for that is that it provides capabilities that record-based data models do not. Rather than starting with current metadata, you need to take a step back and ask: what does my information world look like as linked data? I respectfully disagree. I do not think it necessary to create a domain model ahead of time; I do not think it is necessary for us to re-think our metadata structures. There already exists tools enabling us — cultural heritage institutions — to manifest our metadata as RDF. The manifestations may not be perfect, but “we need to learn to walk before we run” and the metadata structures we have right now will work for right now. As we mature we can refine our processes. I do not advocate “stepping back and asking”. I advocate looking forward and doing. —Eric Morgan -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] mass convert jpeg to pdf
+1 for the viewer concept, and I'll add that viewing downloading meet different needs and should both be offered if possible. (said because of recently having had to download huge PDFs just to glance at a few pages). kc On 11/8/13 11:10 AM, Edward Summers wrote: It is sad to me that converting to PDF for viewing off the Web seems like the answer. Isn’t there a tiling viewer (like Leaflet) that could be used to render jpeg derivatives of the original tif files in Omeka? For an example of using Leaflet (usually used for working with maps) in this way checkout NYTimes Machine Beta: http://apps.beta620.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1969/07/20/issue.html //Ed On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com wrote: We are in the process of migrating our digital collections from CONTENTdm to Omeka and are trying to figure out what to do about the compound objects -- the vast majority of which are digitized books. The source files are actually hi res tiffs but since ginormous objects broken into hundreds of pieces (each of which can be well over 100MB in size) aren't exactly friendly to use, we'd like to stitch them into individual pdf's that can be viewed more conveniently My game plan is to simply have a script pull the files down as jpegs which can be fed to imagemagick which can theoretically do everything I need. However, I've never actually done anything like this before, so I wanted to see if there's a method that people have used for combining lots of images into pdfs that works particularly well. Thanks, kyle -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] display book covers
I wanted to mention that I pointed to the Open Library covers API earlier, and it so happens that was on a day when OL covers was down (possibly due to the disruption of the fire at the Internet Archive). So if you've been having trouble with OL covers, it has been reported that they are now available again. https://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/covers kc On 11/7/13 6:57 AM, Brent Ferguson wrote: LibraryThing's API may have book cover art , can't remember... We pay for Syndetics (cover art service) (owned by Bowker) and can use that for our cover art outside PAC From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Fitzpatrick [chrisfitz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:56 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] display book covers Hi, I think you can do this all with JS or Coffeescript. Here's a fiddle : http://jsfiddle.net/chrisfitzpat/t69Xs/ On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Daryl Grenz grenzda...@hotmail.com wrote: Powell's Books provides an API (http://api.powells.com/stable) and direct links to their book covers by ISBN13 only. Regarding the limit on daily use of the Google Books API, I think from when I used it before that if you access cover links through the Dynamic Links API (https://developers.google.com/books/docs/dynamic-links) there is no daily limit. - Daryl Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 15:13:35 + From: aw...@rockhall.org Subject: [CODE4LIB] display book covers To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Hi all, Anyone have some good resources about tools for gathering book cover images? I'm building that into our next catalog update, which uses Blacklight, but I'm not necessarily looking for Rails-only approaches. My questions are more general: What sources are out there? (ex. Google Books, amazon) Making it work? I'm trying out Google Books at the moment, just making a call to their API. This can be asynchronously and loaded after the rest of the page, or cached, perhaps even store the url in solr or a database table? Tools? I am trying out a Google Books gem[1], which is just a wrapper for the api. Other thoughts? Thanks in advance, …adam __ Adam Wead Systems and Digital Collections Librarian Library + Archives Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum 216.515.1960 aw...@rockhall.org [1] https://github.com/zeantsoi/GoogleBooks This communication is a confidential and proprietary business communication. It is intended solely for the use of the designated recipient(s). If this communication is received in error, please contact the sender and delete this communication. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization
Ethan, thanks, it's good to have examples. I'd say that for simple linking SPARQL may not be necessary, perhaps should be avoided, but IF you need something ELSE, say a query WHERE you have conditions, THEN you may find that a query language is needed. kc On 11/6/13 9:14 AM, Ethan Gruber wrote: I think that the answer to #1 is that if you want or expect people to use your endpoint that you should document how it works: the ontologies, the models, and a variety of example SPARQL queries, ranging from simple to complex. The British Museum's SPARQL endpoint ( http://collection.britishmuseum.org/sparql) is highly touted, but how many people actually use it? I understand your point about SPARQL being too complicated for an API interface, but the best examples of services built on SPARQL are probably the ones you don't even realize are built on SPARQL (e.g., http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1%282%29.aug.4A#mapTab). So on one hand, perhaps only the most dedicated and hardcore researchers will venture to construct SPARQL queries for your endpoint, but on the other, you can build some pretty visualizations based on SPARQL queries conducted in the background from the user's interaction with a simple html/javascript based interface. Ethan On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Karen, It's purely anecdotal (albeit anecdotes borne from working at a company that offered, and has since abandoned, a sparql-based triple store service), but I just don't see the interest in arbitrary SPARQL queries against remote datasets that I do against linking to (and grabbing) known items. I think there are multiple reasons for this: 1) Unless you're already familiar with the dataset behind the SPARQL endpoint, where do you even start with constructing useful queries? 2) SPARQL as a query language is a combination of being too powerful and completely useless in practice: query timeouts are commonplace, endpoints don't support all of 1.1, etc. And, going back to point #1, it's hard to know how to optimize your queries unless you are already pretty familiar with the data 3) SPARQL is a flawed API interface from the get-go (IMHO) for the same reason we don't offer a public SQL interface to our RDBMSes Which isn't to say it doesn't have its uses or applications. I just think that in most cases domain/service-specific APIs (be they RESTful, based on the Linked Data API [0], whatever) will likely be favored over generic SPARQL endpoints. Are n+1 different APIs ideal? I am pretty sure the answer is no, but that's the future I foresee, personally. -Ross. 0. https://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/Specification On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Ross, I agree with your statement that data doesn't have to be RDF all the way down, etc. But I'd like to hear more about why you think SPARQL availability has less value, and if you see an alternative to SPARQL for querying. kc On 11/6/13 8:11 AM, Ross Singer wrote: Hugh, I don't think you're in the weeds with your question (and, while I think that named graphs can provide a solution to your particular problem, that doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't raise more questions or potentially more frustrations down the line - like any new power, it can be used for good or evil and the difference might not be obvious at first). My question for you, however, is why are you using a triple store for this? That is, why bother with the broad and general model in what I assume is a closed world assumption in your application? We don't generally use XML databases (Marklogic being a notable exception), or MARC databases, or insert your transmission format of choice-specific databases because usually transmission formats are designed to account for lots and lots of variations and maximum flexibility, which generally is the opposite of the modeling that goes into a specific app. I think there's a world of difference between modeling your data so it can be represented in RDF (and, possibly, available via SPARQL, but I think there is *far* less value there) and committing to RDF all the way down. RDF is a generalization so multiple parties can agree on what data means, but I would have a hard time swallowing the argument that domain-specific data must be RDF-native. -Ross. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Hugh Cayless philomou...@gmail.com wrote: Does that work right down to the level of the individual triple though? If a large percentage of my triples are each in their own individual graphs, won't that be chaos? I really don't know the answer, it's not a rhetorical question! Hugh On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 , Robert Sanderson azarot...@gmail.com wrote: Named Graphs are the way to solve the issue you bring up in that post, in my opinion. You mint an identifier for the graph, and associate the provenance and other information with that. This then gets ingested
Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization
Ross, I think you are not alone, as per this:
http://howfuckedismydatabase.com/nosql/
kc
On 11/6/13 8:54 AM, Ross Singer wrote:
Hey Karen,
It's purely anecdotal (albeit anecdotes borne from working at a company
that offered, and has since abandoned, a sparql-based triple store
service), but I just don't see the interest in arbitrary SPARQL queries
against remote datasets that I do against linking to (and grabbing) known
items. I think there are multiple reasons for this:
1) Unless you're already familiar with the dataset behind the SPARQL
endpoint, where do you even start with constructing useful queries?
2) SPARQL as a query language is a combination of being too powerful and
completely useless in practice: query timeouts are commonplace, endpoints
don't support all of 1.1, etc. And, going back to point #1, it's hard to
know how to optimize your queries unless you are already pretty familiar
with the data
3) SPARQL is a flawed API interface from the get-go (IMHO) for the same
reason we don't offer a public SQL interface to our RDBMSes
Which isn't to say it doesn't have its uses or applications.
I just think that in most cases domain/service-specific APIs (be they
RESTful, based on the Linked Data API [0], whatever) will likely be favored
over generic SPARQL endpoints. Are n+1 different APIs ideal? I am pretty
sure the answer is no, but that's the future I foresee, personally.
-Ross.
0. https://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/Specification
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Ross, I agree with your statement that data doesn't have to be RDF all
the way down, etc. But I'd like to hear more about why you think SPARQL
availability has less value, and if you see an alternative to SPARQL for
querying.
kc
On 11/6/13 8:11 AM, Ross Singer wrote:
Hugh, I don't think you're in the weeds with your question (and, while I
think that named graphs can provide a solution to your particular problem,
that doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't raise more questions or
potentially more frustrations down the line - like any new power, it can
be
used for good or evil and the difference might not be obvious at first).
My question for you, however, is why are you using a triple store for
this?
That is, why bother with the broad and general model in what I assume
is a
closed world assumption in your application?
We don't generally use XML databases (Marklogic being a notable
exception),
or MARC databases, or insert your transmission format of choice-specific
databases because usually transmission formats are designed to account for
lots and lots of variations and maximum flexibility, which generally is
the
opposite of the modeling that goes into a specific app.
I think there's a world of difference between modeling your data so it can
be represented in RDF (and, possibly, available via SPARQL, but I think
there is *far* less value there) and committing to RDF all the way down.
RDF is a generalization so multiple parties can agree on what data
means,
but I would have a hard time swallowing the argument that domain-specific
data must be RDF-native.
-Ross.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Hugh Cayless philomou...@gmail.com
wrote:
Does that work right down to the level of the individual triple though?
If
a large percentage of my triples are each in their own individual graphs,
won't that be chaos? I really don't know the answer, it's not a
rhetorical
question!
Hugh
On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 , Robert Sanderson azarot...@gmail.com wrote:
Named Graphs are the way to solve the issue you bring up in that post,
in
my opinion. You mint an identifier for the graph, and associate the
provenance and other information with that. This then gets ingested as
the
4th URI into a quad store, so you don't lose the provenance information.
In JSON-LD:
{
@id : uri-for-graph,
dcterms:creator : uri-for-hugh,
@graph : [
// ... triples go here ...
]
}
Rob
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Hugh Cayless philomou...@gmail.com
wrote:
I wrote about this a few months back at
http://blogs.library.duke.edu/dcthree/2013/07/27/the-
trouble-with-triples/
I'd be very interested to hear what the smart folks here think!
Hugh
On Nov 5, 2013, at 18:28 , Alexander Johannesen
alexander.johanne...@gmail.com wrote:
But the
question to every piece of meta data is *authority*, which is the part
of RDF that sucks.
--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: 1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet
--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: 1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization
Ben, Yes, I copied from the browser URIs, and that was sloppy. However, it was the quickest thing to do, plus it was addressed to a human, not a machine. The URI for the LC entry is there on the page. Unfortunately, the VIAF URI is called Permalink -- which isn't obvious. I guess if I want anyone to answer my emails, I need to post mistakes. When I post correct information, my mail goes unanswered (not even a thanks). So, thanks, guys. kc On 11/6/13 12:47 AM, Ben Companjen wrote: Karen, The URIs you gave get me to webpages *about* the Declaration of Independence. I'm sure it's just a copy/paste mistake, but in this context you want the exact right URIs of course. And by better I guess you meant probably more widely used and probably longer lasting? :) LOC URI for the DoI (the work) is without .html: http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n79029194 VIAF URI for the DoI is without trailing /: http://viaf.org/viaf/179420344 Ben http://companjen.name/id/BC - me http://companjen.name/id/BC.html - about me On 05-11-13 19:03, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Eric, I found an even better URI for you for the Declaration of Independence: http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n79029194.html Now that could be seen as being representative of the name chosen by the LC Name Authority, but the related VIAF record, as per the VIAF definition of itself, represents the real world thing itself. That URI is: http://viaf.org/viaf/179420344/ I noticed that this VIAF URI isn't linked from the Wikipedia page, so I will add that. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization
Ross, I agree with your statement that data doesn't have to be RDF all
the way down, etc. But I'd like to hear more about why you think SPARQL
availability has less value, and if you see an alternative to SPARQL for
querying.
kc
On 11/6/13 8:11 AM, Ross Singer wrote:
Hugh, I don't think you're in the weeds with your question (and, while I
think that named graphs can provide a solution to your particular problem,
that doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't raise more questions or
potentially more frustrations down the line - like any new power, it can be
used for good or evil and the difference might not be obvious at first).
My question for you, however, is why are you using a triple store for this?
That is, why bother with the broad and general model in what I assume is a
closed world assumption in your application?
We don't generally use XML databases (Marklogic being a notable exception),
or MARC databases, or insert your transmission format of choice-specific
databases because usually transmission formats are designed to account for
lots and lots of variations and maximum flexibility, which generally is the
opposite of the modeling that goes into a specific app.
I think there's a world of difference between modeling your data so it can
be represented in RDF (and, possibly, available via SPARQL, but I think
there is *far* less value there) and committing to RDF all the way down.
RDF is a generalization so multiple parties can agree on what data means,
but I would have a hard time swallowing the argument that domain-specific
data must be RDF-native.
-Ross.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Hugh Cayless philomou...@gmail.com wrote:
Does that work right down to the level of the individual triple though? If
a large percentage of my triples are each in their own individual graphs,
won't that be chaos? I really don't know the answer, it's not a rhetorical
question!
Hugh
On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 , Robert Sanderson azarot...@gmail.com wrote:
Named Graphs are the way to solve the issue you bring up in that post, in
my opinion. You mint an identifier for the graph, and associate the
provenance and other information with that. This then gets ingested as
the
4th URI into a quad store, so you don't lose the provenance information.
In JSON-LD:
{
@id : uri-for-graph,
dcterms:creator : uri-for-hugh,
@graph : [
// ... triples go here ...
]
}
Rob
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Hugh Cayless philomou...@gmail.com
wrote:
I wrote about this a few months back at
http://blogs.library.duke.edu/dcthree/2013/07/27/the-trouble-with-triples/
I'd be very interested to hear what the smart folks here think!
Hugh
On Nov 5, 2013, at 18:28 , Alexander Johannesen
alexander.johanne...@gmail.com wrote:
But the
question to every piece of meta data is *authority*, which is the part
of RDF that sucks.
--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: 1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization
On 11/5/13 6:45 AM, Ed Summers wrote: I'm with Ross though: ... and Karen! I find it much to read rdf as turtle or json-ld than it is rdf/xml. It's easier to read, but it's also easier to create *correctly*, and that, to me, is the key point. Folks who are used to XML have a certain notion of data organization in mind. Working with RDF in XML one tends to fall into the XML data think rather than the RDF concepts. I have suggested (repeatedly) to LC on the BIBFRAME list that they should use turtle rather than RDF/XML in their examples -- because I suspect that they may be doing some XML think in the background. This seems to be the case because in some of the BIBFRAME documents the examples are in XML but not RDF/XML. I find this rather ... disappointing. I also find it useful to create pseudo-code triples using whatever notation I find handy, as in the example I provided earlier for Eric. Writing out actual valid triples is a pain, but seeing your data as triples is very useful. kc -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] display book covers
Open Library's CoverStore API information is here: https://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/covers kc On 11/5/13 7:13 AM, Adam Wead wrote: Hi all, Anyone have some good resources about tools for gathering book cover images? I'm building that into our next catalog update, which uses Blacklight, but I'm not necessarily looking for Rails-only approaches. My questions are more general: What sources are out there? (ex. Google Books, amazon) Making it work? I'm trying out Google Books at the moment, just making a call to their API. This can be asynchronously and loaded after the rest of the page, or cached, perhaps even store the url in solr or a database table? Tools? I am trying out a Google Books gem[1], which is just a wrapper for the api. Other thoughts? Thanks in advance, …adam __ Adam Wead Systems and Digital Collections Librarian Library + Archives Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum 216.515.1960 aw...@rockhall.org [1] https://github.com/zeantsoi/GoogleBooks This communication is a confidential and proprietary business communication. It is intended solely for the use of the designated recipient(s). If this communication is received in error, please contact the sender and delete this communication. -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
